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Post by Topper Gas on Jun 18, 2017 10:23:53 GMT
Before the panic gets too out of hand....remember. Last season there were at least 24 players in the squad , it was a bottom six budget (including the snakes wages). They finished 10th. At present DC will have the difference in budget between bottom six and top six ,plus the wages of those who have left. This would indicate that if DC wants a 23-25 man squad he will have a fair bit of money to achieve this. Problem is it's a bit like the UWE and training ground plans all just talk and no real signs of anything happening on all 3 fronts now. If the rumours about signing LJ are true you do wonder why DC is signing him if he's not a decent budget as he clearly wasn't a top 6 team player last season.
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Post by Hugo the Elder on Jun 18, 2017 10:28:50 GMT
Harrison has scored goals at every level he's played with us wins more in the air and is stronger too. But yeah other than that James is much better 🙄 How many Games has Harrison played and not contributed anything... except getting his kit dirty from throwing himself to the ground? Ellis has contributed more in the last 3 years than James has. Even if you think Ellis goes missing 2 games out of 3, he still offers more of a threat than James, who troubled the net 0 games out of 3. It's disappointing that everything comes back to poor old Ellis though. James is utterly woeful but if people must insist on comparing the 2 players it's laughable that anyone would not agree that Ellis has given us more. It's becoming a witch-hunt.
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Post by thegasfc on Jun 18, 2017 10:36:33 GMT
How many Games has Harrison played and not contributed anything... except getting his kit dirty from throwing himself to the ground? Ellis has contributed more in the last 3 years than James has. Even if you think Ellis goes missing 2 games out of 3, he still offers more of a threat than James, who troubled the net 0 games out of 3. It's disappointing that everything comes back to poor old Ellis though. James is utterly woeful but if people must insist on comparing the 2 players it's laughable that anyone would not agree that Ellis has given us more. It's becoming a witch-hunt. Didn't make any mistakes though, did he? Not scoring is not a mistake, before you lot say it is.
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Post by Hugo the Elder on Jun 18, 2017 10:42:15 GMT
Ellis has contributed more in the last 3 years than James has. Even if you think Ellis goes missing 2 games out of 3, he still offers more of a threat than James, who troubled the net 0 games out of 3. It's disappointing that everything comes back to poor old Ellis though. James is utterly woeful but if people must insist on comparing the 2 players it's laughable that anyone would not agree that Ellis has given us more. It's becoming a witch-hunt. Didn't make any mistakes though, did he? Not scoring is not a mistake, before you lot say it is. What are the generally accepted requirements of a striker? How many did James meet?
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Post by Deleted on Jun 18, 2017 10:45:43 GMT
Ellis has contributed more in the last 3 years than James has. Even if you think Ellis goes missing 2 games out of 3, he still offers more of a threat than James, who troubled the net 0 games out of 3. It's disappointing that everything comes back to poor old Ellis though. James is utterly woeful but if people must insist on comparing the 2 players it's laughable that anyone would not agree that Ellis has given us more. It's becoming a witch-hunt. Didn't make any mistakes though, did he? Not scoring is not a mistake, before you lot say it is. Didn't get into the positions to make mistakes, and that's half the problem. I maybe remember a handful of scoring opportunities LJ had in the second half of last season. When a striker misses a lot but shows movement to get into good positions (a la Taylor's first couple of months, or Andy Williams), it suggests they'll come good eventually. James worked hard but ultimately didn't get into enough scoring positions, despite being given a lot of game time. Would much, much rather have a striker who gets into the right positions but struggles for consistency as eventually they'll come good. I'd be surprised if we went back in for LJ to be honest, think he needs to step down a level to find his feet again.
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Post by thegasfc on Jun 18, 2017 10:49:25 GMT
Didn't make any mistakes though, did he? Not scoring is not a mistake, before you lot say it is. What are the generally accepted requirements of a striker? How many did James meet? Couple of assists, created chances. Hit the post, hit the bar. All that in the last 4 months of the season, with the expectation on his shoulders after the snake leaving - I say he did okay. Lemme just remind you. Other than the 4 goals against Northampton, Harrison scores just 4 goals in the league in the entire season. 4. Gaffney scored 6 in the league in the entire season. 6. The whole season is 8 months, James has barely 4. He was quite unlucky to get off the mark. I thought good things of him when he scored against Swansea in pre-season. Fantastic goal. Think if he started from the start, with his confidence high after a great pre-season for him, he'd be banging them in.
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Post by pirate on Jun 18, 2017 10:52:35 GMT
3 goals in 103 appearances. I repeat, 3 goals in 103 appearances!!!
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Post by Hugo the Elder on Jun 18, 2017 10:58:54 GMT
What are the generally accepted requirements of a striker? How many did James meet? Couple of assists, created chances. Hit the post, hit the bar. All that in the last 4 months of the season, with the expectation on his shoulders after the snake leaving - I say he did okay. Lemme just remind you. Other than the 4 goals against Northampton, Harrison scores just 4 goals in the league in the entire season. 4. Gaffney scored 6 in the league in the entire season. 6. The whole season is 8 months, James has barely 4. He was quite unlucky to get off the mark. I thought good things of him when he scored against Swansea in pre-season. Fantastic goal. Think if he started from the start, with his confidence high after a great pre-season for him, he'd be banging them in. So other than some goals you dont want to count Ellis was still better than James?
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Post by thegasfc on Jun 18, 2017 11:02:20 GMT
Couple of assists, created chances. Hit the post, hit the bar. All that in the last 4 months of the season, with the expectation on his shoulders after the snake leaving - I say he did okay. Lemme just remind you. Other than the 4 goals against Northampton, Harrison scores just 4 goals in the league in the entire season. 4. Gaffney scored 6 in the league in the entire season. 6. The whole season is 8 months, James has barely 4. He was quite unlucky to get off the mark. I thought good things of him when he scored against Swansea in pre-season. Fantastic goal. Think if he started from the start, with his confidence high after a great pre-season for him, he'd be banging them in. So other than some goals you dont want to count Ellis was still better than James? Just saying that James was unlucky, and I dont rate Harrison at all.
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Post by Hugo the Elder on Jun 18, 2017 11:05:16 GMT
So other than some goals you dont want to count Ellis was still better than James? Just saying that James was unlucky, and I dont rate Harrison at all. I'm not saying I rate Harrison particularly, but he is better than James and contributed more, was my point.
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Post by axegas on Jun 18, 2017 11:06:55 GMT
3 goals in 103 appearances. I repeat, 3 goals in 103 appearances!!! Sign him up!
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Post by Deleted on Jun 18, 2017 11:10:10 GMT
What are the generally accepted requirements of a striker? How many did James meet? Couple of assists, created chances. Hit the post, hit the bar. All that in the last 4 months of the season, with the expectation on his shoulders after the snake leaving - I say he did okay. Lemme just remind you. Other than the 4 goals against Northampton, Harrison scores just 4 goals in the league in the entire season. 4. Gaffney scored 6 in the league in the entire season. 6. The whole season is 8 months, James has barely 4. He was quite unlucky to get off the mark. I thought good things of him when he scored against Swansea in pre-season. Fantastic goal. Think if he started from the start, with his confidence high after a great pre-season for him, he'd be banging them in. If luke gets 4 in one match[dont laugh] will they count towards his seasons tally,just curious now that i know harrisons 4 v northampton dont count?
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Post by Marshy on Jun 18, 2017 12:16:03 GMT
3 goals in 103 appearances. I repeat, 3 goals in 103 appearances!!!Weren't 2 of those 3 goals against us? Bloody typical init!
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Post by pirate on Jun 18, 2017 12:23:57 GMT
3 goals in 103 appearances. I repeat, 3 goals in 103 appearances!!!Weren't 2 of those 3 goals against us? Bloody typical init! Those 3 goals were for Hartlepool in L2 against Morecambe, Leyton Orient and Doncaster. The 2 he got against us was back in the 13/14 season.
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Post by Marshy on Jun 18, 2017 12:26:45 GMT
Weren't 2 of those 3 goals against us? Bloody typical init! Those 3 goals were for Hartlepool in L2 against Morecambe, Leyton Orient and Doncaster. The 2 he got against us was back in the 13/14 season. Ah well he is a prolific scorer after all then!
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Post by Deleted on Jun 18, 2017 12:31:45 GMT
I voted for.. on loan. As I felt sorry for that option not having any votes.
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Post by c4h10 on Jun 18, 2017 12:37:47 GMT
I voted for.. on loan. As I felt sorry for that option not having any votes. I heard that you are a big softy.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 18, 2017 12:54:51 GMT
So other than some goals you dont want to count Ellis was still better than James? Just saying that James was unlucky, and I dont rate Harrison at all. Never mind you won't have to worry about that next season so the question now is who is the player you are going to pick on next season
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Post by 2nd May 1990 on Jun 18, 2017 12:57:39 GMT
Those 3 goals were for Hartlepool in L2 against Morecambe, Leyton Orient and Doncaster. The 2 he got against us was back in the 13/14 season. Ah well he is a prolific scorer after all then! When he scored that brace at the Mem, unbelievable though it sounds, he was in the middle of a purple patch in which he scored 10 goals in 16 games. Without those two goals, we would have won that match. Two more points would have meant no relegation to the conference.......
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Post by wiaww on Jun 18, 2017 13:01:19 GMT
Just saying that James was unlucky, and I dont rate Harrison at all. Never mind you won't have to worry about that next season so the question now is who is the player you are going to pick on next season Harrison is going elsewhere? That's good news. Hope we sign James as I think he'll get as many as EH would and he's a much harder working player.
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