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Post by RD on Jun 28, 2017 15:25:28 GMT
Bit of an odd thing to say given we've bought Sercombe for a rumoured £150k and have had two bids rejected today. It seems to me the prices have gone (even more) mental than ever. Some of the money being spent this close season in L1 is absolutely insane. Why odd ? IMHO the fact we've even put a bid in for James shows either 1) A lack of funds 2) desperation to sign a striker 3) DC hasn't a clue No matter how you butter it up everyone else seems to buying in players apart from the gas actions speak louder than words See bits in bold
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Post by Colyton Gas on Jun 28, 2017 15:28:41 GMT
I wouldn't pay a penny for Luke James. What use is a striker who doesn't score any goals. Sorry but I will lose a lot of faith if DC signs himk-useless. Totally agree.Would be very concerned worried if we signed him after what I saw at Coventry,Vale and Shrewsbury.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 28, 2017 15:32:09 GMT
Why odd ? IMHO the fact we've even put a bid in for James shows either 1) A lack of funds 2) desperation to sign a striker 3) DC hasn't a clue No matter how you butter it up everyone else seems to buying in players apart from the gas actions speak louder than words See bits in bold So on your lines of thinking Luke James is top 6 player then
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Post by Cornishgas on Jun 28, 2017 15:36:33 GMT
Good times over here we go again ?
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Post by RD on Jun 28, 2017 15:36:53 GMT
So on your lines of thinking Luke James is top 6 player then For a squad player, why not? Who knows who else we'll bring in If he's being bought in as our first choice striker then fair enough - but I doubt it. Based on your username, I'm guessing you've been supporting the Gas a while - most of my Gas supporting lifetime we've not paid transfer fees but relied on loans and free transfers. The fact we're making bids for players (and let's not forget we've already signed Sercombe for circa £150k) shows to me we must have a relatively decent budget. We're not in July yet; plenty of time to go. DC is notorious for this but he's done well to date - let's have a bit of faith and patience and see where we are come August.
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Post by worrelsterlingalbion on Jun 28, 2017 15:41:31 GMT
How about this for a completely off the wall suggestion. We've bid for Luke James because our manager (who 99% of us me included were celebrating signing a new contract last week) wants him. I know that might be a bit hard for some to comprehend but maybe that's the truth. It doesn't mean our budget is low and it doesn't mean we have no money to spend.
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Post by RD on Jun 28, 2017 15:42:59 GMT
How about this for a completely off the wall suggestion. We've bid for Luke James because our manager (who 99% of us me included were celebrating signing a new contract last week) wants him. I know that might be a bit hard for some to comprehend but maybe that's the truth. It doesn't mean our budget is low and it doesn't mean we have no money to spend. What an outrageous suggestion
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Post by Deleted on Jun 28, 2017 15:45:24 GMT
Why on earth we would consider signing Luke James, transfer fee or not is beyond me. After all he failed to score a single goal for us and when given an opportunity to score from the spot in a game already won, he even failed to get off the mark then. How people could consider him to be one of four or five strikers in our squad for the forthcoming season is simply laughable. Surely strikers are in your team to score goals and he has failed to do so for the last few seasons, no doubt the reason Posh want rid of him. Our Chairman promised us exciting signings, I for one would say that's the last thing Luke James is.
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Post by Antonio Fargas on Jun 28, 2017 15:48:06 GMT
How about this for a completely off the wall suggestion. We've bid for Luke James because our manager (who 99% of us me included were celebrating signing a new contract last week) wants him. I know that might be a bit hard for some to comprehend but maybe that's the truth. It doesn't mean our budget is low and it doesn't mean we have no money to spend. That might stand up in court, if the jury hadn't seen him play.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 28, 2017 15:48:12 GMT
I'll put it in more simple terms If we have a top 6 budget then our targets should and would have to have the ability to compete with teams in the top 6 which James clearly doesn't given by what we saw of him last season. My analysis of him as a player yes he has certain amount of skill and can cause problems in the box but watching him he's very light weight and was easy to dispossess against strong defenders his hold up play is very poor. Top 6 league 1 player top 6 league 2 player possibly Top 6 National league Player yes deffo
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Post by RD on Jun 28, 2017 15:50:40 GMT
I'll put it in more simple terms If we have a top 6 budget then our targets should and would have to have the ability to compete with teams in the top 6 which James clearly doesn't given by what we saw of him last season. My analysis of him as a player yes he has certain amount of skill and can cause problems in the box but watching him he's very light weight and was easy to dispossess against strong defenders his hold up play is very poor. Top 6 league 1 player top 6 league 2 player possibly Top 6 National league Player yes deffo It was already in simple terms. If we are making 100k+ bids for players, it's pretty clear we have a decent budget. By your logic, we could sign Luke James for £48 million and not have a top 6 budget. A budget isn't determined by the quality of players - it's determined by the amount you spend. Hence if you bought in 11 clones of Messi on £1 per week wages and a free transfer, it wouldn't mean you suddenly had a world-class budget.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 28, 2017 15:59:12 GMT
I'll put it in more simple terms If we have a top 6 budget then our targets should and would have to have the ability to compete with teams in the top 6 which James clearly doesn't given by what we saw of him last season. My analysis of him as a player yes he has certain amount of skill and can cause problems in the box but watching him he's very light weight and was easy to dispossess against strong defenders his hold up play is very poor. Top 6 league 1 player top 6 league 2 player possibly Top 6 National league Player yes deffo It was already in simple terms. If we are making 100k+ bids for players, it's pretty clear we have a decent budget. By your logic, we could sign Luke James for £48 million and not have a top 6 budget. A budget isn't determined by the quality of players - it's determined by the amount you spend. Hence if you bought in 11 clones of Messi on £1 per week wages and a free transfer, it wouldn't mean you suddenly had a world-class budget. With a mediocre mid table team like Peterborough rumoured to be paying £400k for Jack Marriott - that's what we're up against. Even DC has said he's turned down a six figure fee for EH. If EH is worth that sort of money £100k is not going to get you much quality in this league any more. So have we got a top 6 budget - maybe - but I'm not convinced and the lack of anyone coming in appears to confirm that at the moment.
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Post by Gas Go Marching In on Jun 28, 2017 16:01:46 GMT
I wouldn't pay a penny for Luke James. What use is a striker who doesn't score any goals. Sorry but I will lose a lot of faith if DC signs himk-useless. Totally agree.Would be very concerned worried if we signed him after what I saw at Coventry,Vale and Shrewsbury. If you're goig on those 3 games then most of the team wouldn't be here!
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Post by peterparker on Jun 28, 2017 16:01:46 GMT
Clarke fecking clueless. Grrrr Sack the board
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Post by Topper Gas on Jun 28, 2017 16:02:16 GMT
Roverdrive where's the evidence we're making 100K+ bids? Saying the Sercombe deal amounted to £150K doesn't mean we paid a £150K transfer, it could be we just paid up the rest of his Oxford contract plus a small transfer fee on top.
If DC's got a top 6 budget then why's his strike force next going to be possibly RG, EH, LJ and Nicholls, that's more like a mid table, at best, strike force.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 28, 2017 16:07:10 GMT
I'll put it in more simple terms If we have a top 6 budget then our targets should and would have to have the ability to compete with teams in the top 6 which James clearly doesn't given by what we saw of him last season. My analysis of him as a player yes he has certain amount of skill and can cause problems in the box but watching him he's very light weight and was easy to dispossess against strong defenders his hold up play is very poor. Top 6 league 1 player top 6 league 2 player possibly Top 6 National league Player yes deffo It was already in simple terms. If we are making 100k+ bids for players, it's pretty clear we have a decent budget. By your logic, we could sign Luke James for £48 million and not have a top 6 budget. A budget isn't determined by the quality of players - it's determined by the amount you spend. Hence if you bought in 11 clones of Messi on £1 per week wages and a free transfer, it wouldn't mean you suddenly had a world-class budget. No I wouldn't be making a bid for him full stop as he isn't a top 6 player and I certainly don't value James at 100k plus. If we had the said budget we could compete for better players that's the point your missing offering better wage packets think the truth of the matter we have a mid table budget rather than a top 6 budget I may be proved wrong when we sign Godden
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Post by Deleted on Jun 28, 2017 16:14:07 GMT
Still see Luke James as being a wide midfield player ,not a winger as such .
I might guess that DC wants the option of a Bodin type and a Moore type on each side of the pitch.
DC will im guessing sign two strikers (Nichols,Godden) of the Snake/Easter mould. An out and out left winger(?) and an attacking wide left midfield player (James)
An attacking central midfield player (Sercombe) ,a defensive midfield player (?)
A left sided centre back (Sweeney )
A left back (?)
and two keepers (Lumley ,?)
Seen in this context is signing James such a TERRIBLE thing ? I don't think so.
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Post by Gas_Quarters on Jun 28, 2017 16:18:50 GMT
I'll put it in more simple terms If we have a top 6 budget then our targets should and would have to have the ability to compete with teams in the top 6 which James clearly doesn't given by what we saw of him last season. My analysis of him as a player yes he has certain amount of skill and can cause problems in the box but watching him he's very light weight and was easy to dispossess against strong defenders his hold up play is very poor. Top 6 league 1 player top 6 league 2 player possibly Top 6 National league Player yes deffo Even if you have a top 6 budget, it doesn't mean you can go and sign 25 players with top 6 quality. You need to sign probably 12-15 players with top 6 quality and the rest need to be squad players. These squad players need to be handy (they're unlikely to be amazing) when called upon, have the right attitude so they don't upset the happiness of the squad and ideally be cheap options (which for all we know LJ may or may not be). This means that you can spend as much of your budget as possible on the real quality to get you promotion. UTG!
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Post by slam on Jun 28, 2017 16:29:13 GMT
The one thing that any business needs to consider when it is spending its cash is VALUE FOR MONEY. BRFC are exactly the same in that respect and the one thing that is clear is that some of the numbers being quoted on this and other forums definitely do not appear value for money (and that doesn't include the individual wage demands which we, mere mortals, will probably never know).
If you are going to spend a lot of cash on a new player, we have got to be fairly sure that he is better than we have already got at the club.
Some of this silly money talk just shows the true importance of growing you own talent through a well managed academy system.
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Post by beaver132 on Jun 28, 2017 16:42:19 GMT
Had a horrible dream last night that we sold BBB to Swindon for 150K. Even saw the Twitter announcement from Swindon and a quote from BBB ' I feel I have unfinished business at Swindon, and relish the opportunity to show the fans what I can do ". Arrrghhhh!
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