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Post by olskooltoteender on Sept 7, 2014 14:49:27 GMT
Reference wingers, Harrold, creativity... been saying the same things for years now haven't we? Anyway, Fwiw, the focus now is on those things but there are deeper issues and a hidden force at work that continues to make us underachieve. What might that be then? Illuminati in the boardroom? Nick Higgs is somehow under the control of the Bilderberg group?
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Post by Deleted on Sept 7, 2014 15:06:23 GMT
Illuminati in the boardroom? Nick Higgs is somehow under the control of the Bilderberg group? And who do they answer to mate? The reptilians.
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Post by olskooltoteender on Sept 7, 2014 17:54:01 GMT
Illuminati in the boardroom? Nick Higgs is somehow under the control of the Bilderberg group? And who do they answer to mate? The reptilians. I fear you may be correct Ras - I have it on good authority that Higgs & Boycie have both been seen to shift into their reptilian selves during the odd unguarded moment . . .
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Post by Deleted on Sept 7, 2014 18:08:32 GMT
Reference wingers, Harrold, creativity... been saying the same things for years now haven't we? Anyway, Fwiw, the focus now is on those things but there are deeper issues and a hidden force at work that continues to make us underachieve. What might that be then? Jokes aside....since a few of you have been having a laugh.... The flaws in our playing side are there for all spectators to see, young and old. I am not the only one here that has heard it all before. For years upon years we have failed now. To think it is down to bad players and bad managers alone, in my honest opinion, is far fetched. We have had 8? managers and lots of players that have come from or gone onto better things. We are hamstrung by an out of touch BoD who are preoccupied with other interests. We have a losing culture, an acceptance of mediocrity, an amateurish feel, dilapidated surroundings and worst of all, no sign of anyone having the vision to change the direction of the club. I have no problem with posters/fans dreaming of the miracle striker or super manager to sort it all out, but 20 years of utter sh1t tells me that it won't be enough.(a flukey 2007 acknowledged) Our 'people' do not know what success is and don't look as if they will ever find out. There are many ingredients to a successful operation so to focus on a winger or a manager specifically, considering our current condition, is far too micro.
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Post by aghast on Sept 7, 2014 21:24:48 GMT
Jokes aside....since a few of you have been having a laugh.... The flaws in our playing side are there for all spectators to see, young and old. I am not the only one here that has heard it all before. For years upon years we have failed now. To think it is down to bad players and bad managers alone, in my honest opinion, is far fetched. We have had 8? managers and lots of players that have come from or gone onto better things. We are hamstrung by an out of touch BoD who are preoccupied with other interests. We have a losing culture, an acceptance of mediocrity, an amateurish feel, dilapidated surroundings and worst of all, no sign of anyone having the vision to change the direction of the club. I have no problem with posters/fans dreaming of the miracle striker or super manager to sort it all out, but 20 years of utter sh1t tells me that it won't be enough.(a flukey 2007 acknowledged) Our 'people' do not know what success is and don't look as if they will ever find out. There are many ingredients to a successful operation so to focus on a winger or a manager specifically, considering our current condition, is far too micro. You have summed up what I feel very well there. All these comments after each defeat are short term fixes. Get another winger in. Don't play Sinclair out of position. Give Harrison a proper run in the team. Some of these suggestions may work for a few games but they soon fizzle out to be replaced by other problems caused by a cancerous malais within the club. Similar situation with replacing the manager every season, which helps for a few months but which inevitably implodes. It surely is now as clear as day that the leadership of the club no longer leads, but just attempts crisis-management. And unsuccessfully. Until we go bust, when the Board feel they can no longer put money into the club and they jump ship, then things will continue as they are - a long descent into obscurity. If this cataclysmic event happens, then we may disappear to be re-born as AFC Bristol Rovers, and start again a couple of leagues below where we are now, or maybe a white knight will charge upon the scene to pump the millions required into the club.
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Post by GasAttacK on Sept 8, 2014 12:36:59 GMT
Although I accept there are problems at all levels of the club and that the board have made numerous mistakes, I disagree that changing the manager will make no difference.
Regardless what else is going on at the club, if you get the right man in charge it gives you a chance of success on the pitch.
The manager signs the players, the manager trains the players, the manager picks the team and chooses the tactics. You get those 4 things right then you'll be there or there abouts.
We might not have the biggest budget in the Conference but we have one of the biggest and the size of the club and potential for future success eclipses all other clubs at this level. Therefore the right manager should be able to put together a competitive side.
Clarke unfortunately is not the right man. He shouldn't have been given the job when Ward was eventually pushed upstairs and given our awful form in those last 9 games he certainly shouldn't have been given the job this season. He's made poor signings and has no idea when it comes to tactics. We will continue to struggle while he's in charge.
I hope I'm wrong but I don't think we'll win against Wrexhan or Lincoln and if that's the case surely Clarke will have been sacked by this time next week.
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Post by parsonstgas on Sept 8, 2014 13:50:01 GMT
A quote from DC this morning -
“I will get this club into the top five this season without a shadow of a doubt. It is going to be difficult, and there are going to be times when we take some hits along the way."
I cannot possibly see how he can make such a statement, apart from to gain a temporary reprieve on his employment. Would love to be wrong but I disagree with him, can't see us making top 5 at all.
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Post by ganymede on Sept 8, 2014 14:22:30 GMT
A quote from DC this morning - “I will get this club into the top five this season without a shadow of a doubt. It is going to be difficult, and there are going to be times when we take some hits along the way." I cannot possibly see how he can make such a statement, apart from to gain a temporary reprieve on his employment. Would love to be wrong but I disagree with him, can't see us making top 5 at all. DC did not acquire the nickname "Trigger" for no reason!
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Post by Centenary Gas on Apr 19, 2015 11:24:00 GMT
I haven't dug this thread up as any sort of way of highlighting people were wrong, everyone has their predictions and mine have been very wrong in the past.
Just a quick reminder that it could of been a whole lot worse. Who would of though we could win the league in the final game of the season?
UTG
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Post by BS48 GAS on Apr 19, 2015 11:28:25 GMT
You have too much time on your hands, have a roast dinner and some cider and take your mind off it for a few days
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Post by Centenary Gas on Apr 19, 2015 11:29:19 GMT
You have too much time on your hands, have a roast dinner and some cider and take your mind off it for a few days I'm waiting for the roast dinner with that time
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Post by ineedgas on Apr 19, 2015 12:46:16 GMT
Let's change the manager every couple of weeks and all the back room staff then we'll be a stable club who changes the team a little bit each week cider cider hehehe
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Post by stevethepirate on Apr 19, 2015 13:03:35 GMT
I see no reason for this. Clarke has done an excellent job with the resources he has had. Yes he has made some mistakes but the progress has been excellent. The club has a sense of belief again. It feels like we are one again. We are making progress. We will go up next week. Barnet will have the same feeling as we had last season when we beat Wycombe and look how that ended. Karma.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 19, 2015 13:16:19 GMT
Whoever resurrected this old thread.. Look what you've did!
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Post by lpgas on Apr 19, 2015 13:42:55 GMT
Whoever resurrected this old thread.. Look what you've did! Yes it shows how all the "experts" on here got it wrong. I remember the thread on the other forum which predicted we would be playing W-S-M next season.
As for Harrold and his creativity, what a laugh he was more wooden than Pinocchio
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Post by Centenary Gas on Apr 19, 2015 14:58:32 GMT
Whoever resurrected this old thread.. Look what you've did! Yes it shows how all the "experts" on here got it wrong. I remember the thread on the other forum which predicted we would be playing W-S-M next season.
As for Harrold and his creativity, what a laugh he was more wooden than Pinocchio
That wasn't really the point of reproducing it, it was more of what expectations and the general feeling was 3 games into the season. Doom and gloom, the feeling of having no chance of having a top 5 finish. Everyones devastated by finishing second at worst, and although we missed a great opportunity yesterday, that is beyond what nearly everyone thought was possible.
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Post by BishopstonBRFC on Apr 19, 2015 15:23:49 GMT
Yes it shows how all the "experts" on here got it wrong. I remember the thread on the other forum which predicted we would be playing W-S-M next season.
As for Harrold and his creativity, what a laugh he was more wooden than Pinocchio
That wasn't really the point of reproducing it, it was more of what expectations and the general feeling was 3 games into the season. Doom and gloom, the feeling of having no chance of having a top 5 finish. Everyones devastated by finishing second at worst, and although we missed a great opportunity yesterday, that is beyond what nearly everyone thought was possible. At the start of the season I chatted with gregsgas outside the bar and said all I wanted was a bit of fun this season after so many struggles. You don't get more excitement than a two team shootout for the title on the final day.
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Post by surreygas on Apr 19, 2015 17:14:37 GMT
This thread certainly demonstrates to me how if the club give the manager time to mould a team together it can reap rewards. We all doubted him ealry in the season but he has turned things around and deserves a lot of credit for that. We've tried and failed with several experienced managers so it is very pleasing to see a young manager given that time to show what he can do. Yes, DC has made a few mistakes along the way but he has signed good players for this level and made changes during a number of games that have got us 3 points when we were struggling. And he seems a genuine, honest, hard working, decent bloke.
I hope he stays next season irrespective of what happens to us this season.
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Post by GasAttacK on Apr 19, 2015 19:17:27 GMT
Well I started this thread back in September after a poor end to last season and a slow start to the current campaign.
However I'm happy to say I got it wrong and Clarke has done an excellent job.
Regardless whether we go up or not, I hope he's in charge next season.
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Post by gasheadnaboo on Apr 20, 2015 0:16:55 GMT
It's obviously time to give the job to Barry Hayles!
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