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Post by I Voted For Kodos on Sept 6, 2014 22:21:38 GMT
Right so I said I'm going to sort out the player Rating threads from now on. It was hard watching today, but please give ratings if you were there.
Mildenhall
Lockyer
Trotman
Parkes
Brown
Monkhouse
Mansell
Clarke
Martin
Cunnington
White
Taylor
Sinclair
Brunt
DC
Ref
Braintree
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Post by stevek192 on Sept 7, 2014 0:19:52 GMT
Mildenhall 6 Cannot be faulted in any way
Lockyer 5
Trotman 6
Parkes 6
Brown 4
Monkhouse 4
Mansell 3
Clarke 1
Martin 3
Cunnington 3
White 2
Taylor 3
Sinclair 4
Brunt 3
DC 2
Ref 0
Braintree 5
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Post by Gas Go Marching In on Sept 7, 2014 3:59:23 GMT
Mildenhall 6 Cannot be faulted in any way Lockyer 5 Trotman 6 Parkes 6 Brown 4 Monkhouse 4 Mansell 3 Clarke 1 Martin 3 Cunnington 3 White 2 Taylor 3 Sinclair 4 Brunt 3 DC 2 Ref 0 Braintree 5 On the radio they asaid Clarke was our best player in the first half. |
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Post by stevek192 on Sept 7, 2014 8:42:16 GMT
Different people see things different ways and expect different things from players. As I saw it we had a totally ineffective midfield with two players who don't create anything and neither who want to hold on to the ball. The ONLY chances we create are high crosses from wide positions and there is no one willing to take control of things. Both Mansell and Clarke work hard but have no real footballing ability between them.
As I see it we are very much a "bits and pieces side" and not a team. A good team is built around a good solid midfield with an understanding of the formation they are playing. Clarke went into this season with a vision of playing with wingers but IMO he didnt get them BEFORE the pre season games and ended up deciding to go 3-5-2 but then after the first game changed his mind.
Also the preseason games did not give our strikers any time to build up understandings because he was constantly using trialists. A good Manager knows what he wants and gets it. Until we get the midfield and wide spots right we will continue to be a win one lose one team.
Football is about movement, at the moment we have a back four with none of them really comfortable on the ball and no one to give it to because no one wants the ball. It is no use winning the ball if you don't know what to do with it and that sums up Clarke and Mansell. Personally I would use the best that we have (which isn't great) and that is Monkhouse as a central midfielder as he is the only player who actually looks comfortable with the ball at his feet but his problem is we are NOT passing the ball to feet.
The importance if we are playing any formation is that the back four move up the pitch as a unit, we don't and we have a team who use up their energy running around chasing the ball rather than making the ball do the work.
It won't matter who we play up- front because they are starved of the ball to feet. Our Manager in all honesty at the present time looks clueless and perhaps there are some things he should have learnt from Ward rather than criticise. I hated Wards tactics and stubborness with a very defensive set up but at the least we were an organised unit whereas at present we are a shambles. Braintree were not a good team at all but had basic organisation and movement- we had neither.
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Post by BishopstonBRFC on Sept 7, 2014 9:05:27 GMT
Different people see things different ways and expect different things from players. As I saw it we had a totally ineffective midfield with two players who don't create anything and neither who want to hold on to the ball. The ONLY chances we create are high crosses from wide positions and there is no one willing to take control of things. Both Mansell and Clarke work hard but have no real footballing ability between them. As I see it we are very much a "bits and pieces side" and not a team. A good team is built around a good solid midfield with an understanding of the formation they are playing. Clarke went into this season with a vision of playing with wingers but IMO he didnt get them BEFORE the pre season games and ended up deciding to go 3-5-2 but then after the first game changed his mind. Also the preseason games did not give our strikers any time to build up understandings because he was constantly using trialists. A good Manager knows what he wants and gets it. Until we get the midfield and wide spots right we will continue to be a win one lose one team. Football is about movement, at the moment we have a back four with none of them really comfortable on the ball and no one to give it to because no one wants the ball. It is no use winning the ball if you don't know what to do with it and that sums up Clarke and Mansell. Personally I would use the best that we have (which isn't great) and that is Monkhouse as a central midfielder as he is the only player who actually looks comfortable with the ball at his feet but his problem is we are NOT passing the ball to feet. The importance if we are playing any formation is that the back four move up the pitch as a unit, we don't and we have a team who use up their energy running around chasing the ball rather than making the ball do the work. It won't matter who we play up- front because they are starved of the ball to feet. Our Manager in all honesty at the present time looks clueless and perhaps there are some things he should have learnt from Ward rather than criticise. I hated Wards tactics and stubborness with a very defensive set up but at the least we were an organised unit whereas at present we are a shambles. Braintree were not a good team at all but had basic organisation and movement- we had neither. Good post. There were a few teams at the World Cup who in fairness really weren't very good but they were organised and well drilled at that got them through. If we can't even get the basics right then we might as well not bother. |
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Post by Raj Gas on Sept 7, 2014 9:06:43 GMT
Steve every pre-season seems to be one of missed opportunities and disorganisation. Initially I blamed the Managers but it happens every year and so something clearly is not right, my gut feeling is that budgets are moveable objects and lead to Manager's being unsure how much and when they actually know these things.
That said I find it strange that not one of last years players has moved on (bar Smudger)which suggests to me that there were no relegation clauses in their contracts and salaries going down as a result?
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Post by stevek192 on Sept 7, 2014 9:52:35 GMT
I am of the opinion it is down to the type of Manager we have had. Too much Mr Nice guy. IMO we now have a Manager who has no charisma whatsoever and by that I mean that players with ability will not sign for HIM. The only Manager I am at lost as to why he didnt succeed here was Paul Buckle because I could find reasons why all the others have failed.
Trollope - Inexperienced and a yes man. Mr Nice guy
Penney - If we had given him a chance and the Board had stood up to the players (Campbell,Coles,etc) I think he may have succeeded
McGhee - No knowledge whatsoever of Lower division football
Ward - Definite Mr Nice Guy and Mr stubborn. Set in his ways and well past his sell by date
Clarke - Same as Trollope.
Our Board need to have a Manager who will stand up to them and respect him for that who has knowledge and contacts within the lower divisions of the football league AND the Conference. I'd be on the phone to Barnet!!
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Post by publowgas on Sept 7, 2014 11:06:05 GMT
Mildenhall 6 Lockyer 5 Trotman 6 Parkes 5 Brown 3 Monkhouse 4 Mansell 2 Clarke 1 Martin 2 Cunnington 2 White 1 Taylor 3 Sinclair 4 Brunt 3 DC 2 Ref 0 Braintree 5 |
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Post by I Voted For Kodos on Sept 7, 2014 16:28:40 GMT
Mildenhall 6.5 Not at fault for either goal, claimed crosses well and distributed quickly for once
Lockyer 3.5 Tough in the tackle but allowed the cross for the penalty and the cross for the second goal to come from his flank. Doesn't offer enough going forward on the wing.
Trotman 5 Strong aerially and coped with the physical play.
Parkes 3.5 Lost his head after the penalty decision but reacted well initially to get the ball into their net. Missed just before half-time from a decent position. All over the place in the second half before being subbed.
Brown 4.5 Protected his side of defence well, although I felt he needed to give Martin more support as Braintree doubled up on him. Looked the only player who wanted the ball in the last 20.
Monkhouse 2 Offers nothing on the wing. Gets the ball, takes a couple of stuttering touches then looks inside. Caught too far up the pitch for Braintree's second which came from his side.
Mansell 3.5 Kept possession well in the first half but was the game passed him by in the second. To be fair, he sprinted all over the place in the last ten minutes, but needed others to do the same.
Clarke 5 (8 in the 1st, 2 in the 2nd) A real game of two halves for him. He was combative and frequently broke down Braintree's attacks. He then got forward through midfield and went on a good run down the right leading to a cross just before half-time. Tried too much in the second, with nothing coming off. Braintree passed it around him and Mansell.
Martin 4 Was double-marked by Braintree and didn't have the skills to beat two men. Had a couple of chances to play a quick ball, but both times he elected to take another touch.
Cunnington 6.5 Produced our best moments of the game. Two headers on target that he'd had to stoop for and got the nod-down for Parkes. Second half we threw balls at his throat that gave him no chance.
White 4 Never given the ball where he could best use it. We never got the ball to his feet facing their goal. Although he had little to work with, he made even less of it.
Taylor 4 Couldn't say he improved on what White did.
Sinclair 4 Not sure where DC sent him to play, but he chased a lot in defence but had nothing to give going forward.
Brunt 2.5 Offered less than Cunnington did and I failed to see him do anything useful.
DC 4 Probably the team we'd all have started with. Subbing Parkes was a good call. The game was crying out for pace and needed Harrison off the bench. I felt he let the penalty decision get to him and the feeling of injustice spread to the team at half-time. Going into half-time we'd played well, but from the start of the second we were poor and disjointed.
Ref 2 I didn't see it as a penalty, but he lost the plot after that. Didn't know who he'd given the foul against and neither did his linesman. Too many bad decisions throughout the game
Braintree 5 Didn't see much from them in the first half but they seemed a solid team with two big men up front fighting for everything. We let them play around us in the second half but they passed it crisply and as their confidence grew they looked stronger.
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Post by I Voted For Kodos on Sept 9, 2014 22:55:26 GMT
So Steve Mildenhall is Man of the Match from the Braintree game. Maybe on account of how poorly others did and not a reflection of his game. Mildenhall 6.2 MotMLockyer 4.5 Trotman 5.7 Parkes 4.8 Brown 3.8 Monkhouse 3.3 Mansell 2.8 Clarke 2.3 Martin 3.0 Cunnington 3.8 White 2.3 Taylor 3.3 Sinclair 4.0 Brunt 2.8 DC 2.7 Ref 0.7 Braintree 5 Thanks to stevek and publow for giving your ratings.  |
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