Marshy
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Post by Marshy on Aug 1, 2017 10:39:59 GMT
But all these players we are mentioning we are short, DC has identified these positions as needed to be stregthened. I'll be disappointed if we can't find better than Monty otherwise why let him go?because he was rubbish Because the 1m wide strip of pitch he used to stand in is no longer there.
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Post by stevek192 on Aug 1, 2017 10:44:27 GMT
Very harsh Henbury Gas! Monty was one of those players who played poorly and got dropped or played well and was still dropped. Looked to me very much a confidence player who needed a fair crack of the whip. He has not been replaced which is disappointing and to be honest I know DC has said we would have four players in but there again SH said there were quality players on DCs list. Well apart from Sercombe and Nicholls and the goalkeepers where are they? .I agree that we are at least two players short in our starting line up for the weekend and probably three. Striker, centre back and winger but of course we are yet to know just how good Broadbent is. It still worries me because with DC signings you just never know how many appearances they will make. We still don't really know if Partington, Burn are good enough and they both been here ages. There are question marks over Ellis,Gaffs,Byron Moore, James Clarke-all who may start on Saturday. Interesting times ahead but would be a lot happier if the 4 signings were here and ready for Saturday.
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Post by Henbury Gas on Aug 1, 2017 10:58:06 GMT
Very harsh Henbury Gas! Monty was one of those players who played poorly and got dropped or played well and was still dropped. Looked to me very much a confidence player who needed a fair crack of the whip. He has not been replaced which is disappointing and to be honest I know DC has said we would have four players in but there again SH said there were quality players on DCs list. Well apart from Sercombe and Nicholls and the goalkeepers where are they? .I agree that we are at least two players short in our starting line up for the weekend and probably three. Striker, centre back and winger but of course we are yet to know just how good Broadbent is. It still worries me because with DC signings you just never know how many appearances they will make. We still don't really know if Partington, Burn are good enough and they both been here ages. There are question marks over Ellis,Gaffs,Byron Moore, James Clarke-all who may start on Saturday. Interesting times ahead but would be a lot happier if the 4 signings were here and ready for Saturday. To be honest Steve192 i cannot remember walking away from a game and think WOW Monty impressed me today.... Yet Saturday Broadbent did that to me.... Funny old game. Its all about opinions and i fully respect others on here (Except Nobby, because he is in Germany)...
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Post by stevek192 on Aug 1, 2017 11:02:51 GMT
Henbury, I was impressed by the entire squad Saturday other than the centre half who came on who I thought looked slow and terrible positioning and Broom who for me just hasn't got it but stand to be proved wrong. I still have high hopes that this season will be Byron Moores season but still feel we need cover for both him and Bodin.
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Post by paulpirate on Aug 1, 2017 11:13:28 GMT
we need a bit more than sweeney to go up,I think your over rating him a bit He does sure up the defence but he's not going to score 20+ goals,that is what we will miss someone up front that is capable of scoring from nothing and we haven't got it YET Why? We weren't a millon miles off last season. We have a better striker than we ended in Nichols. Sermcombe in midfield. Hopefully the keepers are competent enough and DC bas said we are getting 4 more in anyway. 3 without Sweeney. Look how our defence improved after he arrived. If we had Matty Taylor up front then who knows whwre we would hve finished. I believe Nichols to be a good signing and replacement for Matty T but we will see. i hope your right mate and I'm wrong but think we're 4 good players away from even top 6 Like I said hope I'm wrong Utg
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Post by CornishPasty_Gas on Aug 1, 2017 11:16:17 GMT
Henbury, I was impressed by the entire squad Saturday other than the centre half who came on who I thought looked slow and terrible positioning and Broom who for me just hasn't got it but stand to be proved wrong. I still have high hopes that this season will be Byron Moores season but still feel we need cover for both him and Bodin. Who was that defender who came on? Got to agree with Broom, seen him a few times and doesn't look like a league 1 player. Hope he can prove me wrong. DC knows more than i!
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Post by baggins on Aug 1, 2017 11:20:44 GMT
Why? We weren't a millon miles off last season. We have a better striker than we ended in Nichols. Sermcombe in midfield. Hopefully the keepers are competent enough and DC bas said we are getting 4 more in anyway. 3 without Sweeney. Look how our defence improved after he arrived. If we had Matty Taylor up front then who knows whwre we would hve finished. I believe Nichols to be a good signing and replacement for Matty T but we will see. i hope your right mate and I'm wrong but think we're 4 good players away from even top 6 Like I said hope I'm wrong Utg Possibly but we nearly finished top 6 last season without the improvements made to the squad recently.
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Post by axegas on Aug 1, 2017 11:24:33 GMT
Henbury, I was impressed by the entire squad Saturday other than the centre half who came on who I thought looked slow and terrible positioning and Broom who for me just hasn't got it but stand to be proved wrong. I still have high hopes that this season will be Byron Moores season but still feel we need cover for both him and Bodin. Who was that defender who came on? Got to agree with Broom, seen him a few times and doesn't look like a league 1 player. Hope he can prove me wrong. DC knows more than i! Rollin Menayanse. I thought he did quite well actually. He's only young so it's understandable that he's not quite ready for the first team.
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Post by philbemmygas on Aug 1, 2017 11:32:24 GMT
Who was that defender who came on? Got to agree with Broom, seen him a few times and doesn't look like a league 1 player. Hope he can prove me wrong. DC knows more than i! Rollin Menayanse. I thought he did quite well actually. He's only young so it's understandable that he's not quite ready for the first team. All the second half changes made the team lose a bit of momentum IMO, I thought that the makeshift back four did ok considering the multi-million pound players they were up against. Nice to hear Tony Pulis's comments that we could be in for a good season. UTG
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Post by Deleted on Aug 1, 2017 11:51:17 GMT
Rollin Menayanse. I thought he did quite well actually. He's only young so it's understandable that he's not quite ready for the first team. All the second half changes made the team lose a bit of momentum IMO, I thought that the makeshift back four did ok considering the multi-million pound players they were up against. Nice to hear Tony Pulis's comments that we could be in for a good season. UTG It was good to hear Pulis say that, but he wasn't going to say anything else was he after seeing his 'strong' team beaten by an average 1st division team. IMO we are lacking quality in depth at the moment to sustain anywhere near a top 6 finish. Are we really any stronger as a starting line up (particularly away from home) than where we were at the end of last season?
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Post by Feeling The Blues on Aug 1, 2017 11:58:12 GMT
All the second half changes made the team lose a bit of momentum IMO, I thought that the makeshift back four did ok considering the multi-million pound players they were up against. Nice to hear Tony Pulis's comments that we could be in for a good season. UTG It was good to hear Pulis say that, but he wasn't going to say anything else was he after seeing his 'strong' team beaten by an average 1st division team. IMO we are lacking quality in depth at the moment to sustain anywhere near a top 6 finish. Are we really any stronger as a starting line up (particularly away from home) than where we were at the end of last season? Perhaps if Charlton only hit us for 3 rather than the 5 they did last year we can all be positive?
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Post by GasAttacK on Aug 1, 2017 12:11:07 GMT
All the second half changes made the team lose a bit of momentum IMO, I thought that the makeshift back four did ok considering the multi-million pound players they were up against. Nice to hear Tony Pulis's comments that we could be in for a good season. UTG It was good to hear Pulis say that, but he wasn't going to say anything else was he after seeing his 'strong' team beaten by an average 1st division team. IMO we are lacking quality in depth at the moment to sustain anywhere near a top 6 finish. Are we really any stronger as a starting line up (particularly away from home) than where we were at the end of last season? No, not as strong as either the squad that started last season or the squad that ended the season yet in my opinion. At the start of the season we had: Mildenhall Roos Puddy Leadbitter J.Clarke Lockyer McChrystal Hartley Clarke-Salter Brown Bodin Moore Montano Broom O.Clarke Lines Mansell Sinclair Lawrence Colkett Boateng Easter James Harrison Gaffney Taylor A 26 man squad - allbeit 3 keepers - with competition for all places apart from LB. We ended the season with: Mildenhall Lumley Leadbitter J.Clarke Partington Lockyer Sweeney Burn Hartley Brown Harris Bodin Moore Montano Broom O.Clarke Lines Mansell Sinclair Easter James Harrison Gaffney That's a 23 man squad not counting McChrystal who left in the middle of March. Stronger in defence and in goal than the team that started the season but weaker in midfield as neither Colkett or Boateng were replaced. Not sure whether Brrom should be classed as 1st team or not to be honest but he made a few appearances. DC has stated he wants a 24 man squad and that would be comparable to last season. The quality of the 4 new signings needed to make up that number will decide whether we're stronger or weaker than last season in my opinion.
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Post by Topper Gas on Aug 1, 2017 12:12:43 GMT
Henbury, I was impressed by the entire squad Saturday other than the centre half who came on who I thought looked slow and terrible positioning and Broom who for me just hasn't got it but stand to be proved wrong. I still have high hopes that this season will be Byron Moores season but still feel we need cover for both him and Bodin. Not sure we can read a lot into Saturday's games as, if we do, then Charlton putting 6 past Ipswich is a worry! If we look at the team only then Sercombe and Nicholls look like improvements but we've lost Sweeney and Monty, so can Broadbent step up from Hayes' level to match Sweeney and who's going to give us width on the left if Moore as one of his regualr off days? Upfront we are once gain relying upon Ellis & Gaffers when you would have hoped DC would have brought in competition for the CF role. So the question for Saturday's is have we done enough this summer to improve a squad compared to Charlton's own summer recruitment?
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Post by Topper Gas on Aug 1, 2017 12:17:38 GMT
It was good to hear Pulis say that, but he wasn't going to say anything else was he after seeing his 'strong' team beaten by an average 1st division team. IMO we are lacking quality in depth at the moment to sustain anywhere near a top 6 finish. Are we really any stronger as a starting line up (particularly away from home) than where we were at the end of last season? No, not as strong as either the squad that started last season or the squad that ended the season yet in my opinion. At the start of the season we had: Mildenhall Roos Puddy Leadbitter J.Clarke Lockyer McChrystal Hartley Clarke-Salter Brown Bodin Moore Montano Broom O.Clarke Lines Mansell Sinclair Lawrence Colkett Boateng Easter James Harrison Gaffney Taylor A 26 man squad - allbeit 3 keepers - with competition for all places apart from LB. We ended the season with: Mildenhall Lumley Leadbitter J.Clarke Partington Lockyer Sweeney Burn Hartley Brown Harris Bodin Moore Montano Broom O.Clarke Lines Mansell Sinclair Easter James Harrison Gaffney That's a 23 man squad not counting McChrystal who left in the middle of March. Stronger in defence and in goal than the team that started the season but weaker in midfield as neither Colkett or Boateng were replaced. Not sure whether Brrom should be classed as 1st team or not to be honest but he made a few appearances. DC has stated he wants a 24 man squad and that would be comparable to last season. The quality of the 4 new signings needed to make up that number will decide whether we're stronger or weaker than last season in my opinion. With DC now talking about loan signings I fear it's going to be more Colkett types than the Godden's/Wheeler's we hoped for when SH talked about the type of players on that "impressive" list.
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Post by madgas on Aug 1, 2017 12:17:42 GMT
Got to consider how much Ollie Clarke improved last season. Has he remained fit- I believe our form would have been a little better.
I see it as exciting times.
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Post by baggins on Aug 1, 2017 12:19:10 GMT
Henbury, I was impressed by the entire squad Saturday other than the centre half who came on who I thought looked slow and terrible positioning and Broom who for me just hasn't got it but stand to be proved wrong. I still have high hopes that this season will be Byron Moores season but still feel we need cover for both him and Bodin. Not sure we can read a lot into Saturday's games as, if we do, then Charlton putting 6 past Ipswich is a worry! If we look at the team only then Sercombe and Nicholls look like improvements but we've lost Sweeney and Monty, so can Broadbent step up from Hayes' level to match Sweeney and who's going to give us width on the left if Moore as one of his regualr off days? Upfront we are once gain relying upon Ellis & Gaffers when you would have hoped DC would have brought in competition for the CF role. So the question for Saturday's is have we done enough this summer to improve a squad compared to Charlton's own summer recruitment? So Nichols looks like an improvement but we're relying on Gaffney and Harrison, and you'd have thought DC would have brought in competition for the CF role? He has, Nichols!
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Post by Gas Go Marching In on Aug 1, 2017 12:19:56 GMT
Henbury, I was impressed by the entire squad Saturday other than the centre half who came on who I thought looked slow and terrible positioning and Broom who for me just hasn't got it but stand to be proved wrong. I still have high hopes that this season will be Byron Moores season but still feel we need cover for both him and Bodin. Not sure we can read a lot into Saturday's games as, if we do, then Charlton putting 6 past Ipswich is a worry! If we look at the team only then Sercombe and Nicholls look like improvements but we've lost Sweeney and Monty, so can Broadbent step up from Hayes' level to match Sweeney and who's going to give us width on the left if Moore as one of his regualr off days? Upfront we are once gain relying upon Ellis & Gaffers when you would have hoped DC would have brought in competition for the CF role. So the question for Saturday's is have we done enough this summer to improve a squad compared to Charlton's own summer recruitment? There's still a month to go. Too early to make judgments or panic. I would be happy going to the season with the team we have plus Sweeney coming in before Saturday. Then we can worry about the other 3 positions before the end of August. I wouldn't be surprised if DC wants to give Nichols and Moore in particular a proper look before signing another striker and winger so can see that coming late in the window.
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Post by Gas Go Marching In on Aug 1, 2017 12:23:00 GMT
No, not as strong as either the squad that started last season or the squad that ended the season yet in my opinion. At the start of the season we had: Mildenhall Roos Puddy Leadbitter J.Clarke Lockyer McChrystal Hartley Clarke-Salter Brown Bodin Moore Montano Broom O.Clarke Lines Mansell Sinclair Lawrence Colkett Boateng Easter James Harrison Gaffney Taylor A 26 man squad - allbeit 3 keepers - with competition for all places apart from LB. We ended the season with: Mildenhall Lumley Leadbitter J.Clarke Partington Lockyer Sweeney Burn Hartley Brown Harris Bodin Moore Montano Broom O.Clarke Lines Mansell Sinclair Easter James Harrison Gaffney That's a 23 man squad not counting McChrystal who left in the middle of March. Stronger in defence and in goal than the team that started the season but weaker in midfield as neither Colkett or Boateng were replaced. Not sure whether Brrom should be classed as 1st team or not to be honest but he made a few appearances. DC has stated he wants a 24 man squad and that would be comparable to last season. The quality of the 4 new signings needed to make up that number will decide whether we're stronger or weaker than last season in my opinion. With DC now talking about loan signings I fear it's going to be more Colkett types than the Godden's/Wheeler's we hoped for when SH talked about the type of players on that "impressive" list. Maybe you should stop fearing and wait and see? I'm sure DC would have learned a lot from Colkett, Boateng, JCS etc. All 3 to me looked like they had potential to play at least league one but none of which were prepared to put a shift in. I like how we have a tight knitted squad. DC definitely knows how to get the best out of iur resources which is why I really believe despite not being near the top budgets in the league we can finish in the playoffs.
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Post by Gas Go Marching In on Aug 1, 2017 12:26:25 GMT
Got to consider how much Ollie Clarke improved last season. Has he remained fit- I believe our form would have been a little better. I see it as exciting times. Most certainly. If you can't be excited now then you really must be a glass half empty type of person. This is the best time in my life to be a gashead. I am proud of our club. Just hope the kids (young and old) behave this season as that is the only disappointing thing about our club recently. DC in particular but Wael also really represent our ckub in a fantastic light and don't deserve that to be ruined by a few idiots. (Apologies for the rant)
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Post by Marshy on Aug 1, 2017 12:29:49 GMT
Got to consider how much Ollie Clarke improved last season. Has he remained fit- I believe our form would have been a little better. I see it as exciting times. Most certainly. If you can't be excited now then you really must be a glass half empty type of person. This is the best time in my life to be a gashead. I am proud of our club. Just hope the kids (young and old) behave this season as that is the only disappointing thing about our club recently. DC in particular but Wael also really represent our ckub in a fantastic light and don't deserve that to be ruined by a few idiots. (Apologies for the rant) Are you Bluebutterfly's love child?
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