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Post by newmarketgas on Aug 14, 2017 10:27:07 GMT
I got sacked from a job recently because I was telling the office about a film I watched and used the word negro which was often used in the film this had no racist content to get it but I was branded a racist and that is one of the reasons we are pc mad I am not a racist but when you look at what happened to me , must we read a rule book on what we can and cannot say If you want to be blatant about it Bristol c**y council are just to blame black boys hill and white ladies road roads that have been named for probably hundreds of years and now they say these are racist names and want to rename them Make up your own mind what is racist or not Utg Sorry about your job mate, tribunal worth a go ? I am guessing not worth it.
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Post by Gas_Quarters on Aug 14, 2017 10:32:21 GMT
Racism is abhorant. But for me, why are certain forms of abuse put on pedestals compared to others? Shouldn't all abuse be deemed equal? It all depends on the individual on the receiving end of it. Its OK to abuse or make jokes about people being ugly, fat, ginger, even disabilities can be joked about or seem to be open to abuse. But race and sexual preference seem to be above everything else. Its a bit like the Islamo-fascism around now too, where as other religions can be criticized or talked about but Islam can not without be being deemed a racist or bigot. All abuse should be judged the same, surely? Again, I completely agree and I think it's a case of certain races or certain people almost wanting to be offended. If I were to be in a public interview and I called a Scottish man a "Scot" or an Australian an "Aussie", nobody would bat an eyelid. But if I called a Pakistani man a "Paki", I would be crucified. What's the difference?
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Post by pirate on Aug 14, 2017 10:34:25 GMT
The whole world is going p c mad
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Post by Gas_Quarters on Aug 14, 2017 10:34:46 GMT
I got sacked from a job recently because I was telling the office about a film I watched and used the word negro which was often used in the film this had no racist content to get it but I was branded a racist and that is one of the reasons we are pc mad I am not a racist but when you look at what happened to me , must we read a rule book on what we can and cannot say If you want to be blatant about it Bristol c**y council are just to blame black boys hill and white ladies road roads that have been named for probably hundreds of years and now they say these are racist names and want to rename them Make up your own mind what is racist or not Utg i think it would depend on how you used the word. If you said it as a passing comment about the film then the "racism" label would maybe be justified. If you were to quote the film and clearly intended no harm, then I'm sure that would be wrongful dismissal and i'd be taking it to court if I were you.
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Post by Antonio Fargas on Aug 14, 2017 10:38:02 GMT
Classic Gas Chat. A couple of posts about incidents of racist abuse, and then ten pages whining about how it's not fair to white people.
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Post by Hugo the Elder on Aug 14, 2017 10:39:06 GMT
Classic Gas Chat. A couple of posts about incidents of racist abuse, and then ten pages whining about how it's not fair to white people. White lives matter.
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Post by newmarketgas on Aug 14, 2017 10:41:01 GMT
Classic Gas Chat. A couple of posts about incidents of racist abuse, and then ten pages whining about how it's not fair to white people. Who said I am white ? You cheeky bugger.
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Post by tommym9 on Aug 14, 2017 10:42:01 GMT
Racism is abhorant. But for me, why are certain forms of abuse put on pedestals compared to others? Shouldn't all abuse be deemed equal? It all depends on the individual on the receiving end of it. Its OK to abuse or make jokes about people being ugly, fat, ginger, even disabilities can be joked about or seem to be open to abuse. But race and sexual preference seem to be above everything else. Its a bit like the Islamo-fascism around now too, where as other religions can be criticized or talked about but Islam can not without be being deemed a racist or bigot. All abuse should be judged the same, surely? Again, I completely agree and I think it's a case of certain races or certain people almost wanting to be offended. If I were to be in a public interview and I called a Scottish man a "Scot" or an Australian an "Aussie", nobody would bat an eyelid. But if I called a Pakistani man a "Paki", I would be crucified. What's the difference? Because people used (and some still do) the word 'Paki' as a derogatory term with overt racist connotations. Its the hate behind the words that makes them so toxic.
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Post by Gastafari on Aug 14, 2017 10:42:19 GMT
Classic Gas Chat. A couple of posts about incidents of racist abuse, and then ten pages whining about how it's not fair to white people. Or making valid points about abuse in general.
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Post by tommym9 on Aug 14, 2017 10:43:02 GMT
The whole world is going p c mad Someone shouting out 'Black lady garden' at Ellis isn't the world going PC mad its straight up racism that has no place in society.
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Post by Antonio Fargas on Aug 14, 2017 10:43:49 GMT
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Post by cagastrophy on Aug 14, 2017 10:44:18 GMT
Pretty sure it should depend on context, is the person being called names because he or she is different or because they are acting in a certain way, there's a difference between using it as a descriptive or insulting term and that is the definition described in law. Is he a ginger dick because of the colour of his hair or because he just kicked a puppy...context
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Post by Baxtinho on Aug 14, 2017 10:50:50 GMT
The whole world is going p c mad I dislike the guy next door, I have told him so and any one that asks is told the same, not one person is really bothered about this. If the guy was " of colour " shall we say, I would be called a racist. Funny old world ain't it ? That is PC mad. Using terms like those alleged, that are derogatory to people - as you say, "of colour" is definitely a race issue. If you said you didn't like your neighbour because (for example) he was white, or German, or a Sikh, its YOU that has the problem. Sounds like you're condoning racism, which is nothing to do with PC.
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Post by Hugo the Elder on Aug 14, 2017 10:53:13 GMT
Pretty sure it should depend on context, is the person being called names because he or she is different or because they are acting in a certain way, there's a difference between using it as a descriptive or insulting term and that is the definition described in law. Is he a ginger dick because of the colour of his hair or because he just kicked a puppy...context The problem is there are probably certain words or phrases that regardless of context you can never decide what's offensive to someone unless you have had years of abuse and subjegation from it. Maybe it's right that thoughtlessness is also picked up on and corrected?
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Post by Baxtinho on Aug 14, 2017 10:53:37 GMT
Racism is abhorant. But for me, why are certain forms of abuse put on pedestals compared to others? Shouldn't all abuse be deemed equal? It all depends on the individual on the receiving end of it. Its OK to abuse or make jokes about people being ugly, fat, ginger, even disabilities can be joked about or seem to be open to abuse. But race and sexual preference seem to be above everything else. Its a bit like the Islamo-fascism around now too, where as other religions can be criticized or talked about but Islam can not without be being deemed a racist or bigot. All abuse should be judged the same, surely? Again, I completely agree and I think it's a case of certain races or certain people almost wanting to be offended. If I were to be in a public interview and I called a Scottish man a "Scot" or an Australian an "Aussie", nobody would bat an eyelid. But if I called a Pakistani man a "Paki", I would be crucified. What's the difference? Don't be so bloody pig-headed. You know damn well what the difference is. Whether you have crude, "yer da", 1970's views in your own home - which I guess you do, you simply CANNOT say things like that in this day and age.
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Post by Gas_Quarters on Aug 14, 2017 10:53:45 GMT
Again, I completely agree and I think it's a case of certain races or certain people almost wanting to be offended. If I were to be in a public interview and I called a Scottish man a "Scot" or an Australian an "Aussie", nobody would bat an eyelid. But if I called a Pakistani man a "Paki", I would be crucified. What's the difference? Because people used (and some still do) the word 'Paki' as a derogatory term with overt racist connotations. Its the hate behind the words that makes them so toxic. But because people have used it as a derogatory word in the past, that doesn't necessarily mean it is intended in a derogatory way. In the example above, there is no hate behind the word, it is simply shortened the same as the other two nationalities are, would that make me a racist for using it? Because I know for a fact that I would be labelled one.
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Post by LJG on Aug 14, 2017 10:56:53 GMT
I can see this thread going well.
Anyone know what the vegan option was on Saturday?
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Post by pirate on Aug 14, 2017 10:58:35 GMT
Classic Gas Chat. A couple of posts about incidents of racist abuse, and then ten pages whining about how it's not fair to white people. Attachment Deleted
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Post by baggins on Aug 14, 2017 10:59:59 GMT
I can see this thread going well. Anyone know what the vegan option was on Saturday? You mean the non meat option.
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Post by Gas_Quarters on Aug 14, 2017 11:00:58 GMT
Again, I completely agree and I think it's a case of certain races or certain people almost wanting to be offended. If I were to be in a public interview and I called a Scottish man a "Scot" or an Australian an "Aussie", nobody would bat an eyelid. But if I called a Pakistani man a "Paki", I would be crucified. What's the difference? Don't be so bloody pig-headed. You know damn well what the difference is. Whether you have crude, "yer da", 1970's views in your own home - which I guess you do, you simply CANNOT say things like that in this day and age. Exactly my point, you can't say things like that yet what have I actually said that is offensive? I don't really know what the difference is and I'm more than happy for you to explain it to me. I don't know what this "yer da" thing is that you're referring to. But I have never racially abused anyone in my life and I know that one day I will lay on my death bed and say the same thing. Genuine racism is unacceptable and I do not condone it whatsoever. But as said previously in the thread, people (including myself) are constantly treading on eggshells about what can and can't be said for fear of being labelled a "racist".
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