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Post by Deleted on Aug 14, 2017 9:19:35 GMT
Who are the one or two fluffy players dc is referring to in his post match interview? Taken literally it could mean stuart sinclair as he is very fluffy but obviously "fluffy" was in this case a metaphor for mentally bottling out v peterbro. Who do people think dc was on about?
Prime candidates for me are danny leadbitter and chris lines and i dont think either will start at bury. Im not writing these 2 off by the way,just think dc wasnt impressed with their mental application on saturday.
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Post by Gas Go Marching In on Aug 14, 2017 9:25:43 GMT
Who are the one or two fluffy players dc is referring to in his post match interview? Taken literally it could mean stuart sinclair as he is very fluffy but obviously "fluffy" was in this case a metaphor for mentally bottling out v peterbro. Who do people think dc was on about? Prime candidates for me are danny leadbitter and chris lines and i dont think either will start at bury. Im not writing these 2 off by the way,just think dc wasnt impressed with their mental application on saturday. Chris Lines and Ellis maybe. Leads is definitely a confidence player. On the subject of Lines, I would drop him Saturday. He is a great player on his day but every now and then he seems to need this kick up the ass and is probably the reason why he has never consistently played at a higher level.
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Post by pirate on Aug 14, 2017 9:33:20 GMT
Harrison, Leadbitter, Moore, Lines. Nichols left Peterborough because he was getting a little bit of stick, if that isn't a bit weak and fluffy I don't know what is.
I love DC, but he needs to take a look at himself and his recruitment this summer, but I think he knows that, saying:
“It’s back to drawing board from where I stand. Another tough week, I pick the team, I bring the players into the football club and it’s been a disastrous start to the season for us."
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Post by Gas Go Marching In on Aug 14, 2017 9:52:39 GMT
Harrison, Leadbitter, Moore, Lines. Nichols left Peterborough because he was getting a little bit of stick, if that isn't a bit weak and fluffy I don't know what is. I love DC, but he needs to take a look at himself and his recruitment this summer, but I think he knows that, saying: “It’s back to drawing board from where I stand. Another tough week, I pick the team, I bring the players into the football club and it’s been a disastrous start to the season for us." Lines is frustrating for me as he is one of these players that we should be looking to at times like this. On his day as we all know he is a very classy player. He just so often seems to need a boot up his ass.
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Post by stokegiffordgas on Aug 14, 2017 9:57:56 GMT
Pretty sure leadbittet shouldn't have started - took a knock in the week leg was taped up and first goal for them he would have made that ball if 100%. Gamble by dc that failed.
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Post by Gastafari on Aug 14, 2017 10:09:11 GMT
Harrison, Leadbitter, Moore, Lines. Nichols left Peterborough because he was getting a little bit of stick, if that isn't a bit weak and fluffy I don't know what is. I love DC, but he needs to take a look at himself and his recruitment this summer, but I think he knows that, saying: “It’s back to drawing board from where I stand. Another tough week, I pick the team, I bring the players into the football club and it’s been a disastrous start to the season for us." DC likes to give players a chance. His loyalty has to be commended. I am sure he will bring in at least 3 more players in the transfer window. He, like some of us, knows that some of this squad have probably taken us as far as they can and aren't of the required standard to improve us any further.
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Post by Hugo the Elder on Aug 14, 2017 10:10:32 GMT
I have no issue with the thread or OP and whilst I was critical of us after the game I'm not super comfortable with picking on and singling out current players for days on end.
We have to play the hand we've been dealt and back and support whoever is on the pitch whether we rate them or not.
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Post by Topper Gas on Aug 14, 2017 11:04:15 GMT
We all have off days at work it's how footballers bounce back which is important, just look back to the Newport home game in Div 2 as a good example.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 14, 2017 11:37:10 GMT
I have no issue with the thread or OP and whilst I was critical of us after the game I'm not super comfortable with picking on and singling out current players for days on end. We have to play the hand we've been dealt and back and support whoever is on the pitch whether we rate them or not. Fair point,it wasnt really meant as an ultra serious thread its just the comment dc made that 1 or 2 of the players where a bit "fluffy"got me wondering which players he meant.
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Post by Hugo the Elder on Aug 14, 2017 11:38:56 GMT
I have no issue with the thread or OP and whilst I was critical of us after the game I'm not super comfortable with picking on and singling out current players for days on end. We have to play the hand we've been dealt and back and support whoever is on the pitch whether we rate them or not. Fair point,it wasnt really meant as an ultra serious thread its just the comment dc made that 1 or 2 of the players where a bit "fluffy"got me wondering which players he meant. Yeah, I got that. I almost listed a few players myself.
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Post by baggins on Aug 14, 2017 12:12:46 GMT
Fair point,it wasnt really meant as an ultra serious thread its just the comment dc made that 1 or 2 of the players where a bit "fluffy"got me wondering which players he meant. Yeah, I got that. I almost listed a few players myself. A few?
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Post by Marshy on Aug 14, 2017 12:23:58 GMT
I live in Wales, I'm not shearing get your own!
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Post by slam on Aug 14, 2017 12:32:39 GMT
I get it that there were some weak performances on Saturday. I get it that Peterborough looked by far and away the most dangerous of the two sides - especially on the break. However, it was never a 1-4 game and I think that the scoreline flattered Borough and added to the angst in the social media.
The worrying thing to me was that we looked weak against their high press - and, despite what you say about any of the individual performances, I think that that was mainly down to the set up of the team. Leadbitter had an off day but he was exposed by the almost non-existent level of cove in front of him. The two full backs seemed to be playing too high and at one stage I even commented that we seemed to be playing a 2-6-2 formation. There seemed to be a mass of space behind Leadbitter and Peterborough really exploited it, using the pace of their left winger and the running in behind of their front 2 (3 sometimes). That drew the two centrebacks out of position and created a huge amount of space in the middle too.
One of the problems, as I see it, is that I cannot see a way of playing a formation that utilises our best attacking players without creating a weakness at the back.
On Saturday, Bodin seemed to have been given a free reign to move across the right side behind the front two. However, this exposed Leadbitter and led to some scarey defensive moments. Good sides will spot these weakness and take advantage.
At the moment, I cannot see a formation where you can include all of our best players. If you play a rigourous 4-4-2 you almost certainly need to leave out one of Lines or Sercombe. If you play a narrow 5-3-2, you almost have to leave out Bodin. If you play 5-4-1 we are left with only one up top, if you play 5-3-3 we seem to end up with Sinclair (arguably our main ball winner/presser) playing wide left.
To my mind, our urgent need is to identify a system that we are comfortable playing with, without creating massive pressure on the defensive line.
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Post by baggins on Aug 14, 2017 12:34:51 GMT
I live in Wales, I'm not shearing get your own! Living in Wales is punishment enough.
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Post by Marshy on Aug 14, 2017 12:39:27 GMT
I live in Wales, I'm not shearing get your own! Living in Wales is punishment enough. It's not when England keep stuffing them at rugby, I love the place then!
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Post by oldgas on Aug 14, 2017 13:24:39 GMT
Who are the one or two fluffy players dc is referring to in his post match interview? Taken literally it could mean stuart sinclair as he is very fluffy but obviously "fluffy" was in this case a metaphor for mentally bottling out v peterbro. Who do people think dc was on about? Prime candidates for me are danny leadbitter and chris lines and i dont think either will start at bury. Im not writing these 2 off by the way,just think dc wasnt impressed with their mental application on saturday. I don't think Danny was fully fit on Saturday. There's no way he would have been skinned for pace like their winger did him in the build-up to their first goal. As for Linesy, he can blow hot and cold. He just didn't seem on his game. Boro had also worked us out, and knew if they pressed us high Sinclair would effectively get pulled out of position chasing around after everything. Our biggest problem was that we didn't retain our shape and allowed them to dictate the he game. Do that and you've got problems.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 14, 2017 13:27:28 GMT
Leads was deffo carrying an injury the weekend found it odd that he started would of rather have seen him on the bench than risk making the injury worse he certainly wasn't match fit lacked a yard or two in pace.
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Post by Gas Go Marching In on Aug 14, 2017 14:30:14 GMT
We all have off days at work it's how footballers bounce back which is important, just look back to the Newport home game in Div 2 as a good example. Which is why Saturday was so disappointing after shocking performance vs Charlton a week before.
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Post by gasincider on Aug 14, 2017 15:53:30 GMT
Lines is frustrating for me as he is one of these players that we should be looking to at times like this. On his day as we all know he is a very classy player. He just so often seems to need a boot up his ass. You jest sir. Lines is not up to League 1 standard. In fact I didn't think much of him in league 2. I cringe every time he attempts to take a corner or free kick, and away from home he rarely breaks into a jog. The guy is past his sale by date and Ollie should come back, and Sercombe left to be the creator.
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Post by womble on Aug 14, 2017 16:01:17 GMT
At the moment, I cannot see a formation where you can include all of our best players. If you play a rigourous 4-4-2 you almost certainly need to leave out one of Lines or Sercombe. If you play a narrow 5-3-2, you almost have to leave out Bodin. If you play 5-4-1 we are left with only one up top, if you play 5-3-3 we seem to end up with Sinclair (arguably our main ball winner/presser) playing wide left. To my mind, our urgent need is to identify a system that we are comfortable playing with, without creating massive pressure on the defensive line. If we play 5-3-3, we're cheating! Worth a try though.
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