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Post by fanboy on Aug 17, 2017 8:19:19 GMT
Helloooo gasheads. Another new episode of GasCast, kicking off our fortnightly schedule. You can listen here: gas-cast.co.uk/blog/podcast/022-a-dodgy-start/Of course you can also subscribe on iTunes and other podcast providers. In episode 22 of Bristol Rovers fans’ podcast GasCast, we discuss what has been a poor start to the League One campaign for The Gas.
The four of us analyse the defeats to Charlton Athletic and Peterborough United and give our early thoughts on new signings Liam Sercombe and Tom Nichols, as well as the form of Ellis Harrison and Tom Lockyer.
We then look ahead to this weekend’s clash against a Bury side featuring the likes of Jermaine Beckford and Harry Bunn, and reminisce about our last visit to Craven Cottage ahead of Tuesday’s second-round league cup match against Fulham.
Finally, we touch upon the latest in the new stadium saga; discussing the news that owner Wael Al-Qadi will pursue redeveloping the Memorial Stadium and is keen to incorporate safe standing into the plans.
Ollie Neno hosts, alongside Max Alderson, Harley Thorne and GasCast debutant Simon Gray.Thanks and let us know what you think, as always. Harley / GasCast
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Post by fanboy on Aug 17, 2017 15:56:58 GMT
This fell off the front page on the first day and I am sad about it.
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Post by Antonio Fargas on Aug 17, 2017 16:08:50 GMT
Who needs to cheer an Ellis substitution when you can slag him off in a podcast?
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Post by Gas Go Marching In on Aug 17, 2017 17:05:35 GMT
This fell off the front page on the first day and I am sad about it. Hey Harley, I listened to it. Keep them going, they pass the time for me driving to work and back playing them in the car. I agree with most of the podcast btw. I disagreed with whoever said O Clarke and Sercombe can't play together. I would play a 3 man midfield Saturday but if I had to play 2 then they would be the 2 I would pick. We seem to strongly agree on Ellis etc. He's had enough chances for me. I think at least we should get a definite answer this season. Think he will be dropped Saturday but start vs Fulham.
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Post by You can call me Al. on Aug 17, 2017 17:13:47 GMT
Agree with GGMI keep them going they're very, very good guys. Whether you agree or disagree with some of the debate it's well put together.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 17, 2017 17:35:00 GMT
They obviously don't remember the mem the first season. It was only the tent end that was empty.The west stand was there but not open. The east side was as it is today.They were right about the north terrace roof though.
Fulham...always be the 4-0 playoff game.
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Post by yattongas on Aug 17, 2017 17:48:27 GMT
Just listened whilst the kids watched Ghostbusters 2 ..... Thanks for saving me from that. Agreed with most of what you guys said . Just one thing..... Not sure how long it was but could future ones be condensed to 30 mins ?
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Post by Gas Go Marching In on Aug 17, 2017 17:55:38 GMT
Just listened whilst the kids watched Ghostbusters 2 ..... Thanks for saving me from that. Agreed with most of what you guys said . Just one thing..... Not sure how long it was but could future ones be condensed to 30 mins ? Ghostbusters 2 is surely longer than 30 mins 😉 P.S Harley, a shoutout to the greatest forum member on gaschat would be appreciated
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Post by fanboy on Aug 17, 2017 20:42:02 GMT
We aimed for 30 mins guys, got too stuck in. I agree though, 30 is the desired length, will try to make that happen next time. Hopefully no dire form between now and then to keep us raging....
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Post by fanboy on Aug 17, 2017 20:45:07 GMT
Who needs to cheer an Ellis substitution when you can slag him off in a podcast? Unfortunately the whole point of the pod is to discuss these things, we can't ignore stuff because it isn't positive etc. Kind of loses its purpose then. The opinions were shared, but at the games, we all of course back the team.
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Post by WeAreTheGas on Aug 17, 2017 21:06:49 GMT
Who needs to cheer an Ellis substitution when you can slag him off in a podcast? IMO the terrace is the place to support our players and provide backing to them, and we all do at every game we attend. We've kept the pod unofficial and unattached from the club because despite Rovers offering to make it an 'official' piece of club media and giving us better access to players for interviews etc, we believe the pod benefits from us feeling like we can be critical of players and the club when we think it's justified (instead of booing said player or cheering their substitution at a game, which I would never do). I'm sure Ellis won't listen to the pod to hear our criticism and even if he did, I'd be astonished if that offended him or damaged his confidence further after how he was treated by hundreds (thousands?) of our fans on Saturday.
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Post by Antonio Fargas on Aug 17, 2017 21:10:27 GMT
Who needs to cheer an Ellis substitution when you can slag him off in a podcast? Unfortunately the whole point of the pod is to discuss these things, we can't ignore stuff because it isn't positive etc. Kind of loses its purpose then. The opinions were shared, but at the games, we all of course back the team. Well, it all adds to the noise around Ellis. You could have just discussed his miss, and how cheering him off isn't going to help him. But, in context, not sure how a podcast where everyone wants him to leave as soon as possible, is going to help anyone. Obviously you can say what you like, but I don't see how, in this context, you are much better than the fans who cheered him off.
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Post by Jomo on Aug 17, 2017 21:56:02 GMT
Enjoyed listening on the way home from work tonight, keep up coming WATG and Harley!
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Post by Gas Go Marching In on Aug 17, 2017 22:30:44 GMT
Unfortunately the whole point of the pod is to discuss these things, we can't ignore stuff because it isn't positive etc. Kind of loses its purpose then. The opinions were shared, but at the games, we all of course back the team. Well, it all adds to the noise around Ellis. You could have just discussed his miss, and how cheering him off isn't going to help him. But, in context, not sure how a podcast where everyone wants him to leave as soon as possible, is going to help anyone. Obviously you can say what you like, but I don't see how, in this context, you are much better than the fans who cheered him off. Because Ellis can't get away from those fans on a matchday. It is there right in front of him. Whether he listens to the podcast or not is his prerogative but I highly doubt he does. And even if he does, it's all a test of his mental strength/character. Prem players get slated all the time in the media, papers, sky sports etc. They either seitch off to it or listen and want to prove then erong. To compare the gascast guys to the idiots who cheered him off Saturday is incredibly insulting tbh. And you have made a drama out of nothing.
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Post by Antonio Fargas on Aug 18, 2017 6:41:33 GMT
Well, it all adds to the noise around Ellis. You could have just discussed his miss, and how cheering him off isn't going to help him. But, in context, not sure how a podcast where everyone wants him to leave as soon as possible, is going to help anyone. Obviously you can say what you like, but I don't see how, in this context, you are much better than the fans who cheered him off. Because Ellis can't get away from those fans on a matchday. It is there right in front of him. Whether he listens to the podcast or not is his prerogative but I highly doubt he does. And even if he does, it's all a test of his mental strength/character. Prem players get slated all the time in the media, papers, sky sports etc. They either seitch off to it or listen and want to prove then erong. To compare the gascast guys to the idiots who cheered him off Saturday is incredibly insulting tbh. And you have made a drama out of nothing. No drama, just a post on a forum where I give my opinion. You're the one trying to make it into a drama with your 'incredibly insulting' bit.
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Post by Gas Go Marching In on Aug 18, 2017 6:46:41 GMT
Because Ellis can't get away from those fans on a matchday. It is there right in front of him. Whether he listens to the podcast or not is his prerogative but I highly doubt he does. And even if he does, it's all a test of his mental strength/character. Prem players get slated all the time in the media, papers, sky sports etc. They either seitch off to it or listen and want to prove then erong. To compare the gascast guys to the idiots who cheered him off Saturday is incredibly insulting tbh. And you have made a drama out of nothing. No drama, just a post on a forum where I give my opinion. You're the one trying to make it into a drama with your 'incredibly insulting' bit. Well it is. The gascast guys do a good job. If Ellis doesn't want people talking about him negatively then start bloody producing on the pitch! Footballers put themselves out there to be shot at and I respect them for that but it is part and parcel of the job. The idiots on Saturday though, that is just completely unnecessary and helps nobody, there are occasions where I feel ashamed to be a gashead, not many but that was one of them.
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Post by Antonio Fargas on Aug 18, 2017 6:59:36 GMT
No drama, just a post on a forum where I give my opinion. You're the one trying to make it into a drama with your 'incredibly insulting' bit. Well it is. 'well it is' isn't really much of a conversation continuer. And I'm sure the Gas Cast people can make their own arguments. And if they feel incredibly insulted then I can talk to them about it. But you've already said on numerous occasions how the forum is just a game and we shouldn't take you seriously and how you just play the forum, etc, so excuse me if I don't bother trying to have an adult conversation with you, especially on behalf of other people who I imagine probably don't want you talking for them, in any case.
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Post by fanboy on Aug 18, 2017 7:04:36 GMT
'well it is' isn't really much of a conversation continuer. And I'm sure the Gas Cast people can make their own arguments. And if they feel incredibly insulted then I can talk to them about it. But you've already said on numerous occasions how the forum is just a game and we shouldn't take you seriously and how you just play the forum, etc, so excuse me if I don't bother trying to have an adult conversation with you, especially on behalf of other people who I imagine probably don't want you talking for them, in any case. Chill out guys Thanks GGMI for the nice comments. In terms of what we think... we don't see a way the pod could ever work without being critical of players if that's what our actual opinions are. I don't think it's any way comparable to those that would shout abuse at a game or boo etc. Supporting the players on the pitch is obviously the priority... debating where things went wrong and issues etc are kind of what makes the pod have purpose. We want it to be a fans alternative view... obviously you won't get that kind of content for the club. It also helps those far and wide that can't get to games to hear a fans honest account of the situation.
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Post by Antonio Fargas on Aug 18, 2017 7:27:58 GMT
'well it is' isn't really much of a conversation continuer. And I'm sure the Gas Cast people can make their own arguments. And if they feel incredibly insulted then I can talk to them about it. But you've already said on numerous occasions how the forum is just a game and we shouldn't take you seriously and how you just play the forum, etc, so excuse me if I don't bother trying to have an adult conversation with you, especially on behalf of other people who I imagine probably don't want you talking for them, in any case. Chill out guys Thanks GGMI for the nice comments. In terms of what we think... we don't see a way the pod could ever work without being critical of players if that's what our actual opinions are. I don't think it's any way comparable to those that would shout abuse at a game or boo etc. Supporting the players on the pitch is obviously the priority... debating where things went wrong and issues etc are kind of what makes the pod have purpose. We want it to be a fans alternative view... obviously you won't get that kind of content for the club. It also helps those far and wide that can't get to games to hear a fans honest account of the situation. Well, I suppose if you just want to give a matchday experience to people who can't get to the matches just whining about Ellis for 90 minutes would have been spot on. But, istm, the podcast is in a slightly elevated and privileged position (albeit one you have elevated and created yourselves, so you are under no obligation to do anything with it, except exactly what you want to do) so it's worth considering the content. For me that section was simply whining about Ellis, and you seemed to feed off each other's negativity. ie you started with talking about his miss, and by the end of it you were all in agreement that he should have left at the end of 2016. It just felt like listening to the bloke behind me.
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Post by Gas Go Marching In on Aug 18, 2017 7:37:00 GMT
Chill out guys Thanks GGMI for the nice comments. In terms of what we think... we don't see a way the pod could ever work without being critical of players if that's what our actual opinions are. I don't think it's any way comparable to those that would shout abuse at a game or boo etc. Supporting the players on the pitch is obviously the priority... debating where things went wrong and issues etc are kind of what makes the pod have purpose. We want it to be a fans alternative view... obviously you won't get that kind of content for the club. It also helps those far and wide that can't get to games to hear a fans honest account of the situation. Well, I suppose if you just want to give a matchday experience to people who can't get to the matches just whining about Ellis for 90 minutes would have been spot on. But, istm, the podcast is in a slightly elevated and privileged position (albeit one you have elevated and created yourselves, so you are under no obligation to do anything with it, except exactly what you want to do) so it's worth considering the content. For me that section was simply whining about Ellis, and you seemed to feed off each other's negativity. ie you started with talking about his miss, and by the end of it you were all in agreement that he should have left at the end of 2016. It just felt like listening to the bloke behind me. The fact that Harley has something negative about Ellis speaks volumes tbh. Harley has always been one of the more positive posters on the forum. I don't want them to sugarcoat things. I want the good, the bad and the ugly. Honesty. If they are discussing Ellis but don't rate him then what exactly do you expect them to say about him? There are some people who are negative and always negative but their criticism of Ellis is honest and realistic, not negative.
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