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Post by matealotblue on Sept 5, 2017 9:24:36 GMT
No - old English (as spoken up to the Norman conquest) and what did Norman have to say about your conquest afterwards? Suspect it was unrepeatable Anglo-Saxon.....
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Post by paulpirate on Sept 5, 2017 9:32:07 GMT
england need a top centre mid,that's what we need too f**king England and Gas, never spend any money! both need to spend big
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Post by rex on Sept 5, 2017 17:40:25 GMT
I went to Wembley last night. Must say it was hugely disappointing. The odd bit of class and some pacey forwards is not going to get results against the better teams. The term 'world class' is banded around too often with english players. Just adds to the argument about how poor the premiership is. Its entertainment not quality football. Brings us back to the efl trophy farce. Need to just bin everything. Get premier teams to play their youngsters in their league and let the top teams have a few crap years until the kids come through. 5th Wembley visit - guess the other 4 - shocking atmosphere and a noticable amount of booing for the Ox & Sterling when subs were made. Went with a large group including a Slovak family - a couple of young kids - who were obviously with us but still got a few 'who are ya' from the local 15 year old spurs fan club. Bit of banter yes but this just dragged on in the concourse on the way out. Give me local football anytime, whatever part of the country you're from Give me local football any day When foreign players were first allowed in the platitude trotted out was that English players would benefit from playing World class players every week & hence improve the England team. Worked a treat,hasn't it. When foreign players were banned during the 70s we didn't qualify for any World Cups apart from when we qualified as winners, so I suppose you could argue allowing foreign players has improved the England team
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Post by justin blue on Sept 5, 2017 18:35:27 GMT
When foreign players were first allowed in the platitude trotted out was that English players would benefit from playing World class players every week & hence improve the England team. Worked a treat,hasn't it. When foreign players were banned during the 70s we didn't qualify for any World Cups apart from when we qualified as winners, so I suppose you could argue allowing foreign players has improved the England team But they were also banned in 66 when we won the thing.
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Post by Antonio Fargas on Sept 5, 2017 18:40:18 GMT
So, basically there's no correlation between foreigners in the game, and the performance of the England team. Why people keep going on about it is a mystery.
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Post by rex on Sept 5, 2017 19:42:39 GMT
When foreign players were banned during the 70s we didn't qualify for any World Cups apart from when we qualified as winners, so I suppose you could argue allowing foreign players has improved the England team But they were also banned in 66 when we won the thing. All of which I think just goes to show that blaming foreigners is not the solution (and not just in football!)
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Post by Deleted on Sept 6, 2017 7:58:22 GMT
Could it be that in more recent times we have qualified due to the huge expansion of the world cup and the inclusion of Mickey mouse teams with only butchers, bakers and candlestick makers to pick their teams from. Our present qualifying campaign group for example is hardly full of quality opposition. I was 16 when we won the thing, have a look back at the teams then and apart from one or two teams the vast majority had a very good chance of winning it. We won with a very good team playing for the country and giving everything for the shirt, unlike the overpaid prima donnas now . I find it very strange how some people now try to demean the achievement of the 66 team, something that I fear that a lot of you will never have the pleasure of seeing in your lifetimes. Quite a few of us were proud to welcome a world cup winner as a player for us later in his career, I doubt very much the likes of Kane, Ali and Sterling will do us the honour in years to come.
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Post by philbemmygas on Sept 6, 2017 11:20:14 GMT
Could it be that in more recent times we have qualified due to the huge expansion of the world cup and the inclusion of Mickey mouse teams with only butchers, bakers and candlestick makers to pick their teams from. Our present qualifying campaign group for example is hardly full of quality opposition. I was 16 when we won the thing, have a look back at the teams then and apart from one or two teams the vast majority had a very good chance of winning it. We won with a very good team playing for the country and giving everything for the shirt, unlike the overpaid prima donnas now . I find it very strange how some people now try to demean the achievement of the 66 team, something that I fear that a lot of you will never have the pleasure of seeing in your lifetimes. Quite a few of us were proud to welcome a world cup winner as a player for us later in his career, I doubt very much the likes of Kane, Ali and Sterling will do us the honour in years to come. Dave You have probably struck the nail right on top of the head there, the current crop of players almost to a man do not (appear to) show any pride in representing their country. It's another opportunity to represent their sponsors, and try not to get injured so they can turn out in the premiersh*t on "x" hundreds of thousands per week. One of the highlights of my life was watching Alan Ball at Eastville
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Post by newmarketgas on Sept 6, 2017 11:42:49 GMT
It is trendy for younger people these days to dislike the Country, whilst that lasts we will never improve the pride that should be shown in playing for England.
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Post by rex on Sept 6, 2017 17:37:17 GMT
It is trendy for younger people these days to dislike the Country, whilst that lasts we will never improve the pride that should be shown in playing for England. I'm not sue I agree with you there. During or after any England match social media is full of middle aged blokes venting their spleen about what is wrong with English football. I didn't watch the Slovakia game but I knew England were losing as I started seeing posts about Southgate being, amongst other things, 'A clueless f**king disgrace'. Englishmen, particularly middle aged ones, seem to have this weird propensity for claiming to be avowed patriots whilst enjoying exploding into outrage about their football team!
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Post by Big Jock on Sept 6, 2017 17:39:27 GMT
It is trendy for younger people these days to dislike the Country, whilst that lasts we will never improve the pride that should be shown in playing for England. I'm not sue I agree with you there. During or after any England match social media is full of middle aged blokes venting their spleen about what is wrong with English football. I didn't watch the Slovakia game but I knew England were losing as I started seeing posts about Southgate being, amongst other things, 'A clueless f**king disgrace'. Englishmen, particularly middle aged ones, seem to have this weird propensity for claiming to be avowed patriots whilst enjoying exploding into outrage about their football team! Oh i dunno, i agree with some of they tweets..............
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Post by newmarketgas on Sept 6, 2017 18:02:13 GMT
It is trendy for younger people these days to dislike the Country, whilst that lasts we will never improve the pride that should be shown in playing for England. I'm not sue I agree with you there. During or after any England match social media is full of middle aged blokes venting their spleen about what is wrong with English football. I didn't watch the Slovakia game but I knew England were losing as I started seeing posts about Southgate being, amongst other things, 'A clueless f**king disgrace'. Englishmen, particularly middle aged ones, seem to have this weird propensity for claiming to be avowed patriots whilst enjoying exploding into outrage about their football team! I don't think you read it properly, that might be why you do not agree with it. Any who, not to worry.
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Post by rex on Sept 6, 2017 18:52:09 GMT
I'm not sue I agree with you there. During or after any England match social media is full of middle aged blokes venting their spleen about what is wrong with English football. I didn't watch the Slovakia game but I knew England were losing as I started seeing posts about Southgate being, amongst other things, 'A clueless f**king disgrace'. Englishmen, particularly middle aged ones, seem to have this weird propensity for claiming to be avowed patriots whilst enjoying exploding into outrage about their football team! I don't think you read it properly, that might be why you do not agree with it. Any who, not to worry. You seemed to be suggesting that it is trendy for younger people (specifically younger) to dislike the country, I was pointing out it isn't just the younger people.
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Post by Gas Go Marching In on Sept 6, 2017 18:59:44 GMT
As much as I don't think Southgate is the right man, we're just not that good.
I remember a time when Scholes couldn't get in the team. Now Jordan Henderson is one of the first names on the team sheet! Enough said!
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Post by barrs on Sept 6, 2017 19:54:39 GMT
98% Gas 1% England 1% Arse (grown on me following them around Europe)
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Post by aghast on Sept 6, 2017 20:15:35 GMT
Don't they get paid about £1500 per game?
That answers most of the questions for me about why they can't be bothered to attempt to play like some of them can for their clubs.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 6, 2017 20:21:41 GMT
Don't they get paid about £1500 per game? That answers most of the questions for me about why they can't be bothered to attempt to play like some of them can for their clubs. Don't they give their wages to charity when they play for England, sure i heard it somewhere.
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Post by Hugo the Elder on Sept 6, 2017 20:38:54 GMT
Don't they get paid about £1500 per game? That answers most of the questions for me about why they can't be bothered to attempt to play like some of them can for their clubs. Don't they give their wages to charity when they play for England, sure i heard it somewhere. Yeah, pretty sure they've been giving their wages away for years. I think players should request to play for England rather than getting picked. That way the players on the pitch should actually look like they want to be there.
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Post by peterhooper57 on Sept 6, 2017 20:47:49 GMT
England have hit rock bottom. Henderson captain ffs and Southgate Manager, can't get any worse. England FC is a joke. There are too many water poor foreign players and managers in the premier league. English born players generally have no chance of making into the prem.
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Sept 6, 2017 21:02:43 GMT
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Post by garystash on Sept 6, 2017 21:02:43 GMT
I watched the Slovakia game, and it wasn't too bad. I actually felt - for the first time in years - that the players were putting in effort. For me, there was some of the spirit that used to be typical of English teams.
We were still not that good, and Slovakia went through us with ease at times, but at least we were trying!
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