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Post by ansell1 on Sept 2, 2017 14:05:18 GMT
What short memories people have ! we were no better against Peterborough in fact we were worse and with a so called full strength team. there was no midfield today which made it to easy for them to press, sorry but burn had a shocker and that left a big hole which they made use off. It's history now so we move on ! #UTG
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Post by Marshy on Sept 2, 2017 14:06:25 GMT
The 1st half was embarrassing.
The second half was better, if Tom Locks & Sweeney would have played I think would have sneaked something from that game?
The end of condom Burn for me he cost us the first 2 goals with his non existent marking of Wyke.
Onwards and upwards gasheads 2 home games now and six points from them and things will look a lot different. UTG
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Post by ansell1 on Sept 2, 2017 14:07:11 GMT
Give them as many free headers as we did and they'll get goals, wouldn't expect that to happen with our regular centre halves. Pretty simple really. You really think so not exactly set the world alight yet and been a fault for most of the goals conceded this season ! |
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Post by scoobydoogas on Sept 2, 2017 14:08:55 GMT
Things don't look too bad from where I'm sitting? Mind you I have just demolished a case of Stella! You really are clumsy! |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 2, 2017 14:13:10 GMT
Give them as many free headers as we did and they'll get goals, wouldn't expect that to happen with our regular centre halves. Pretty simple really. You really think so not exactly set the world alight yet and been a fault for most of the goals conceded this season ! Footballs a squad game so you must have adequate cover for these situations |
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Post by knowall on Sept 2, 2017 14:14:43 GMT
Well a few things clearer for me .... Byron Moore and Jonny Burns are surely not good enough. Partington fills me with way more confidence than Leadbetter. Lee Brown is approaching his 'best before' date. Ollie Clarke is way too inconsistent ... Good stuff from Tom Nichols, Tom Broadbent and thought Ellis gave it a real go. DC still mystifies me with team selection, formation and how we neutralise the opposition threat .... Charlie Wyke is a great example. He hadn't scored in his previous eight games as other teams surely do their homework better. Totally agree - I would add that I'm now unsure what Leadbitter brings to the team anymore. I used to be a big supporter of his and thought he would be going on to better things. He had a shocker against Peterborough and was done for speed on a few occasions and his distribution is useless. Why Partington was dropped today is beyond me - if DC felt he couldn't manage three games in a week why play play him against Wycombe. And why Byron Moore gets anywhere near this team is beyond me - with Telford, Nicholls and Bola on the bench bizarre!! I am a big supporter of DC but both the above contributors have got it nailed on. How DC got it so wrong today is beyond me. Importantly he played players who cannot perform away from home. And we are desperately in need of a defensive coach - come back Steve Yates. |
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Post by Marshy on Sept 2, 2017 14:15:10 GMT
Things don't look too bad from where I'm sitting? Mind you I have just demolished a case of Stella! You really are clumsy! I know scoob it's the Stella! |
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Post by GasAttacK on Sept 2, 2017 14:17:52 GMT
We're not as good as the best teams in L1 but to be honest I never expected us to be going to places like Bradford and dominating the game or picking up 3 points. Before the defeat to Blackburn they were 31 games unbeaten at home. If we'd have got anything out of the game today it would have been a bonus, especially when you consider we were missing our 2 best defenders.
Leadbitter played today to try and add some pace to a sluggish back 4. Partington, Burn and Broadbent are all very slow so I can understand the thinking in playing Leads but without Lockyer and Sweeney we were always going to struggle.
I agree that Burn simply isn't good enough and Broadbent still has a lot to learn. I actually think J.Clarke is better than both of them so his absence through injury was also a loss.
Midfield looked off the pace. Sercombe did okay but O.Clarke and particularly Lines were well off the pace, second to every ball.
Nichols is a striker so I can understand him playing Moore in a game where we were always likely to be doing a lot of defending but it didn't really pay off. He had a great chance to equalise before HT but other than that did very little. I've never really rated him which makes it even more frustrating we failed to sign the quality left winger we all knew we needed.
Harrison worked hard and is still the best option up front.
Disappointing but not totally unexpected. However we need to bounce back and take 6 points from 2 winnable home games coming up next.
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Post by ansell1 on Sept 2, 2017 14:18:48 GMT
You really think so not exactly set the world alight yet and been a fault for most of the goals conceded this season ! Footballs a squad game so you must have adequate cover for these situations And we did based on the Peterborough game as we conceded one less ! |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 2, 2017 14:19:44 GMT
Give them as many free headers as we did and they'll get goals, wouldn't expect that to happen with our regular centre halves. Pretty simple really. You really think so not exactly set the world alight yet and been a fault for most of the goals conceded this season ! Our defensive record from January onwards last season says they'll be fine despite a difficult start this season. No chance Lockyer and Sweeney give away as many chances from set pieces as their replacements do today. |
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Post by ansell1 on Sept 2, 2017 14:20:22 GMT
We're not as good as the best teams in L1 but to be honest I never expected us to be going to places like Bradford and dominating the game or picking up 3 points. Before the defeat to Blackburn they were 31 games unbeaten at home. If we'd have got anything out of the game today it would have been a bonus, especially when you consider we were missing our 2 best defenders. Leadbitter played today to try and add some pace to a sluggish back 4. Partington, Burn and Broadbent are all very slow so I can understand the thinking in playing Leads but without Lockyer and Sweeney we were always going to struggle. I agree that Burn simply isn't good enough and Broadbent still has a lot to learn. I actually think J.Clarke is better than both of them so his absence through injury was also a loss. Midfield looked off the pace. Sercombe did okay but O.Clarke and particularly Lines were well off the pace, second to every ball. Nichols is a striker so I can understand him playing Moore in a game where we were always likely to be doing a lot of defending but it didn't really pay off. He had a great chance to equalise before HT but other than that did very little. I've never really rated him which makes it even more frustrating we failed to sign the quality left winger we all knew we needed. Harrison worked hard and is still the best option up front. Disappointing but not totally unexpected. However we need to bounce back and take 6 points from 2 winnable home games coming up next. And you think Sweeney is quick  ?? Midfield was off the pace ?? did we have one today ? |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 2, 2017 14:25:13 GMT
Footballs a squad game so you must have adequate cover for these situations And we did based on the Peterborough game as we conceded one less ! Could've and should've been a bigger margin against us today? |
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Post by ansell1 on Sept 2, 2017 14:25:31 GMT
You really think so not exactly set the world alight yet and been a fault for most of the goals conceded this season ! Our defensive record from January onwards last season says they'll be fine despite a difficult start this season. No chance Lockyer and Sweeney give away as many chances from set pieces as their replacements do today. So you have two players marking 6-8 of theirs ?? wake up yes Burn was at fault for the first two but there were six or seven others that should be marking it not just down to the two in the middle FFS !! |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 2, 2017 14:29:29 GMT
Our defensive record from January onwards last season says they'll be fine despite a difficult start this season. No chance Lockyer and Sweeney give away as many chances from set pieces as their replacements do today. So you have two players marking 6-8 of theirs ?? wake up yes Burn was at fault for the first two but there were six or seven others that should be marking it not just down to the two in the middle FFS !! The goal scorer was burns man and yes all players should be defending but you could say that about all goals |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 2, 2017 14:32:17 GMT
Our defensive record from January onwards last season says they'll be fine despite a difficult start this season. No chance Lockyer and Sweeney give away as many chances from set pieces as their replacements do today. So you have two players marking 6-8 of theirs ?? wake up yes Burn was at fault for the first two but there were six or seven others that should be marking it not just down to the two in the middle FFS !! I'm sorry? Burn is given his man to mark before the game, he's lost him a few times. Same with others, not just him, but our marking was very poor all day. Wyke has a hat-trick for a reason. I give Lockyer/Sweeney stick from time to time but they don't give away two easy goals like that in the first half. Game over at that point. |
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Post by asparagas on Sept 2, 2017 14:37:01 GMT
FWIW my thoughts
Slocombe - Did okay
Leadbetter - couldnt cross for toffee, couldn't pass five yards. Goes forward, stops, then passes sideways or backwards - odd
Burn - Better second half unlucky with the 'block' for the second goal, but not good enough to play every week on that performance.
Broadbent - Best out of the back line but inexperience let him down a little, he'll get better.
Brown - couple of good moves in the second half. Nothing else of any note
Moore - ineffective forgot he was playing until his header. Did well by heading it down.
Lines - takes all the pace and impetus out of our attacks and is too slow. Couple of good balls in, but a lot of lazy lobs. Didn't get stuck in.
Clarke - couldn't pass five yards, not himself today, too slow with the ball
Bodin- did well with the ball but couldn't pass 5 yards either
Sercombe - lacked confidence today, couldn't pass five yards
Ellis - worked hard, wouldn't have taken him off
Gaffney - didn't do anything
Nichols - MOM, nice haircut, nice teeth, drove the team forwards.
Poor game, can't remember many tackles that we won or even put in. We were too slow, we go forward, panic then stop, slow the game down, take all the pace out of the ball and then struggled to play a simple 5 or 10 yard pass to feet.
Tactics were poor today for one Daz got it wrong. Partington should've played, Nics should've played.
Onwards and upwards but worried not enough depth in our squad.
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Post by ansell1 on Sept 2, 2017 14:37:14 GMT
So you have two players marking 6-8 of theirs ?? wake up yes Burn was at fault for the first two but there were six or seven others that should be marking it not just down to the two in the middle FFS !! I'm sorry? Burn is given his man to mark before the game, he's lost him a few times. Same with others, not just him, but our marking was very poor all day. Wyke has a hat-trick for a reason. I give Lockyer/Sweeney stick from time to time but they don't give away two easy goals like that in the first half. Game over at that point. Everyone makes mistakes and yes even Sweeney and Locks but if you don't defend as a team well you might as well go home we lost the game not because of those mistakes but because the midfield allowed them to get in those positions in the first place they sat off far to often and it showed !! |
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Post by ansell1 on Sept 2, 2017 14:39:40 GMT
FWIW my thoughts Slocombe - Did okay Leadbetter - couldnt cross for toffee, couldn't pass five yards. Goes forward, stops, then passes sideways or backwards - odd Burn - Better second half unlucky with the 'block' for the second goal, but not good enough to play every week on that performance. Broadbent - Best out of the back line but inexperience let him down a little, he'll get better. Brown - couple of good moves in the second half. Nothing else of any note Moore - ineffective forgot he was playing until his header. Did well by heading it down. Lines - takes all the pace and impetus out of our attacks and is too slow. Couple of good balls in, but a lot of lazy lobs. Didn't get stuck in. Clarke - couldn't pass five yards, not himself today, too slow with the ball Bodin- did well with the ball but couldn't pass 5 yards either Sercombe - lacked confidence today, couldn't pass five yards Ellis - worked hard, wouldn't have taken him off Gaffney - didn't do anything Nichols - MOM, nice haircut, nice teeth, drove the team forwards. Poor game, can't remember many tackles that we won or even put in. We were too slow, we go forward, panic then stop, slow the game down, take all the pace out of the ball and then struggled to play a simple 5 or 10 yard pass to feet. Tactics were poor today for one Daz got it wrong. Partington should've played, Nics should've played. Onwards and upwards but worried not enough depth in our squad. UTG Someone talking sense ! we lost the game in the midfield and that shows above !! |
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Post by 2nd May 1990 on Sept 2, 2017 14:41:28 GMT
When will dc realise that his tactics away from home are useless. Why did he start burn in defence ahead of parts? Why moore? Why no nicholls gaffers or telford? Hes served us well and is a good manager but i wish he would sort the away form out. Absulote embarassment watching this. What would you do? |
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Post by holywoodgas on Sept 2, 2017 14:42:14 GMT
I thought Broadbent had a good game, one of a very small number of Rovers' players who showed up today; one thing I did notice, he clearly only has one foot!
This makes me wonder how he got into the Army? I'm sure they check for things like that!
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