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Post by stevek192 on Sept 10, 2017 9:48:30 GMT
Game No 9
Opponents Walsall Home League 1 Won 2-1
Team Performance Mark out of 10
Slocombe Not overly confident on crosses but OK. Sold down the river by Leadbitter and IMO the red card was correct 6.5
Partington On present form the best right back at the club strong in the tackle,reads the game well and stays calm.Went into midfield then in a back five 8.5 MOM Lockyer An assured performance from our skipper against good opponents.Good to see him back to form. 8 Sweeney Looked tired and not yet up to the form of last season but an OK perfprmance in what was a defensive battle. 7 Brown Another who is struggling and slows the game down too much in possession and gives opponents too much space. 6.5
Lines Set up the early goal with a great pass and tried to get us moving forward but would like to see him further forward.Hope injury is not bad. 6.5 Sercombe Caught in possession too often and a performance below his best. Not really suited to the way we allow the opposition to come at us. 6 O Clarke Livened up when we went down to 10 but largely missing up until then. Good to see him in position to volley home the late winner 6.5
Bodin Some neat footwork and you always expect something to happen but yesterday little did and a bit greedy Couple of good shots. 7 Gaffney Took his goal very well dinking the keeper after a heavy touch. Battled hard for every ball on limited service 8 Nichols Sacrificed after the sending off but flattered to deceive until then. Formation doesn't suit him IMO and time for Telford to be given a chance 5.5
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Harrison Came on and worked very hard to win the ball at both ends and looks on good form and unlucky not to start 7 Leadbitter Terrible control and back pass sums up his form this season but in his favour set up the winner for Clarke 5 Andre Very agile and saved us on three occasions. Needed to be a hero and on the day he was. Handled very well and seemed confident. 7.5
Crowd Stuck with the team and was the 12th man that saw us battle out a superb but undeserved result. 9
Ref Probably got the red card right but in all honesty little else and was not helped by his linesmen either. We won so the mark is not sour grapes. 3 Walsall A good team who won the tactical battle until we went down to ten players. At 1-1 there looked only one winner and they will be disappointed. 7.5
Team Performance summed up Played like the away team after an early lead but cannot fault the efforts of the players battling for every ball 10 out of 10 but quality 4 out of 10 Defence summed up How many more are we going to concede from set pieces. Slocombe seems unsure on crosses and this unsettles defenders , midfield players are struggling to mark. Midfield summed up Seems to be p-laying to a plan that limits their chances to show their true ability.They battled well but were closed down to the point of creating little Attack summed Up Our attack very much played on limited service and at the moment we look so short of real quality that there is not enough to really rate our attackers Man of Match Andre probably had the biggest effect on the result but Partington was outstanding from start to finish. 8.5
Final Comment I cannot help but feel that DC or the owners have left us very short in both numbers and the balance of the team. Last season we could and did play many formations but we now seem limited to 4-3-3. Those who say we are stronger than last season are kidding themselves. We had Mansell, O Clarke, Lines, Sinclair, Colkett,and Boateng all pushing for midfield places and Easter also more than capable of dropping back and Montano, Moore, Bodin and Broom providing the width to go to 4-4-2.. Hopefully today DC will be going through the Unattached players for a couple of midfielders if Lines injury is serious but also getting a keeper in on loan.
Oldham; despite their position; will be no pushovers especially if we allow them the space as we have in all our league games this season at the Mem. UTG
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Post by gasincider on Sept 10, 2017 11:46:54 GMT
This game Lines actually did a couple of decent passes. But how can you say he set up the first goal with ' a great pass'?
Do you mean the pass straight at the Walsall defender who lucky for us slipped and the ball therefore reached Gaffney? Come on Steve. Lines is a luxury we can no longer afford. Even last week at Bradford he was unmarked on the edge of the area and would not hit a shot. Hurry back Sincs.
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Post by twertonboy on Sept 10, 2017 11:58:01 GMT
Lines is still a must as he can still open up a defence but we are quite lightweight in midfield at the moment...I hope he's fit for Oldham but i doubt it after that foul on him yesterday..
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Post by WeAreTheGas on Sept 10, 2017 12:18:28 GMT
Delighted to get the 3 points and kudos to Andre for a massive performance when he came on.
However, I'm still staggered that we've gone into the season with only four senior CMs when we seem like we're largely going to be a 433 team this season...
I'm sure DC and the club tried to get a fifth in, but we really are very light in that area of the pitch and IMO shouldn't be forced into play another system (as I imagine we will be on Tuesday) purely because we didn't bring in another midfielder.
It was something that was always going to come back and bite us at some point this season, but at least if we play a two-up-top formation on Tuesday then we may see Nichols in a more natural position for him.
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Post by socrates on Sept 10, 2017 12:27:32 GMT
Delighted to get the 3 points and kudos to Andre for a massive performance when he came on. However, I'm still staggered that we've gone into the season with only four senior CMs when we seem like we're largely going to be a 433 team this season... I'm sure DC and the club tried to get a fifth in, but we really are very light in that area of the pitch and IMO shouldn't be forced into play another system (as I imagine we will be on Tuesday) purely because we didn't bring in another midfielder. It was something that was always going to come back and bite us at some point this season, but at least if we play a two-up-top formation on Tuesday then we may see Nichols in a more natural position for him. If we go two up top I'd like to see Gafney partner Telford.
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Post by Wembley_Gas on Sept 10, 2017 12:33:59 GMT
This game Lines actually did a couple of decent passes. But how can you say he set up the first goal with ' a great pass'? Do you mean the pass straight at the Walsall defender who lucky for us slipped and the ball therefore reached Gaffney? Come on Steve. Lines is a luxury we can no longer afford. Even last week at Bradford he was unmarked on the edge of the area and would not hit a shot. Hurry back Sincs. I want to see Linesy start and star every week if only to see you explode Brian!
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Post by Deleted on Sept 10, 2017 12:45:19 GMT
This game Lines actually did a couple of decent passes. But how can you say he set up the first goal with ' a great pass'? Do you mean the pass straight at the Walsall defender who lucky for us slipped and the ball therefore reached Gaffney? Come on Steve. Lines is a luxury we can no longer afford. Even last week at Bradford he was unmarked on the edge of the area and would not hit a shot. Hurry back Sincs. Can't you get behind the players instead of slagging them off gasincider?
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Post by knowall on Sept 10, 2017 12:53:29 GMT
Overall I think a very fair opinion on the game yesterday Steve. It showed how we missed Partington at Bradford and in my opinion, he is a natural Captain which I hope DC has noted too. Andre did nothing wrong and a lot right so I would not be afraid to play him on Tuesday. Gaffney should start in preference to Harrison with Harrison coming on for impact as per Saturday. Would be interesting to see what Telford can do in a league match - he seems to know where the net is.
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Post by stevek192 on Sept 10, 2017 14:37:07 GMT
gasinsider , A pass for the first goal which Sinclair ,if playing, would not have attempted and therefore the player slipping would not have mattered. It seems to get forgotten the number of times that Lines wilkl turn one way and then the other then release a long pass which stretches play. Sinclair can only really play in home matches in place of Ollie Clarke because otherwise we become ultra defensive very easily with no width. IMO we lack a bit of quality this season which is being shown up more by last seasons players struggling fo9r form. Leadbitter, Sweeney, Brown and Ollie Clarke are all struggling at the moment for last seasons form and with Moore struggling generally and Broom not yet good enough we are really struggling for width.
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Post by kivorover on Sept 10, 2017 16:11:11 GMT
gasinsider , A pass for the first goal which Sinclair ,if playing, would not have attempted and therefore the player slipping would not have mattered. It seems to get forgotten the number of times that Lines wilkl turn one way and then the other then release a long pass which stretches play. Sinclair can only really play in home matches in place of Ollie Clarke because otherwise we become ultra defensive very easily with no width. IMO we lack a bit of quality this season which is being shown up more by last seasons players struggling fo9r form. Leadbitter, Sweeney, Brown and Ollie Clarke are all struggling at the moment for last seasons form and with Moore struggling generally and Broom not yet good enough we are really struggling for width. Good post!!
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Post by madgas on Sept 10, 2017 16:28:11 GMT
Those who say we are stronger than last season are kidding themselves. We had Mansell, O Clarke, Lines, Sinclair, Colkett,and Boateng all pushing for midfield places and Easter also more than capable of dropping back and Montano, Moore, Bodin and Broom providing the width to go to 4-4-2... Hard to agree with this bit. Mansell was not 'pushing for midfield place' he played less than a few times, mainly as sub. I think he's bloody great, but his direct impact on the points tally was minimal. Colkett was only available for half the season- hardly pivotal to the team. Although, a good footballer. And Boatang did not work.
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Post by bluestone on Sept 10, 2017 16:32:54 GMT
Sorry but I disagree with the assessment that we are much weaker this season than we were last season as a result of our 'so say' lack of transfer activity and the stats so far suggest that we are stronger:
17/18 SEASON: 16/17 SEASON: Charlton 1 - 0 Bristol Rovers LOST Charlton 4 - 1 Bristol Rovers LOST Bristol Rovers 1 - 4 Peterborough LOST Bristol Rovers 1 - 2 Peterborough LOST Bury 2 - 3 Bristol Rovers WON Bury 3 - 0 Bristol Rovers LOST Bristol Rovers 3 - 1 Fleetwood WIN Bristol Rovers 2 - 1 Fleetwood WIN Bradford 3 - 1 Bristol Rovers LOST Bradford 1 - 1 Bristol Rovers DRAW Bristol Rovers 2 - 1 Walsall WIN Bristol Rovers 1 - 1 Walsall DRAW
SUMMARY 17 / 18: SUMMARY 16/17: 3 wins / 3 Losses / 0 Draws = 9 points 1 win / 3 losses / 2 draws = 5 points
So there you have it, comparing the equivalent fixtures we have gained an additional 4 points so far this season when compared with last season.
UTG!
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Post by socrates on Sept 10, 2017 19:07:18 GMT
I think we're definitely stronger than last season. It also massively helps that we've played these clubs last season so we know them where as last season it was a bit like unknown territory every week. Boating and colket on loan were ok but compared to signing Sercombe well there's no comparison. Kroos and puddy were crap and now we've got 3 keepers who can all hold their own we've got a good cover for brown , partington has broken through and has been excellent and Telford has done more in one game than Luke James did all season.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 10, 2017 19:13:18 GMT
gasinsider , A pass for the first goal which Sinclair ,if playing, would not have attempted and therefore the player slipping would not have mattered. It seems to get forgotten the number of times that Lines wilkl turn one way and then the other then release a long pass which stretches play. Sinclair can only really play in home matches in place of Ollie Clarke because otherwise we become ultra defensive very easily with no width. IMO we lack a bit of quality this season which is being shown up more by last seasons players struggling fo9r form. Leadbitter, Sweeney, Brown and Ollie Clarke are all struggling at the moment for last seasons form and with Moore struggling generally and Broom not yet good enough we are really struggling for width. My exact thoughts. Yesterday I was very disappointed in Sweeney who gave the ball away on several occasions with stupid passes in our area when a row z clearance would have sufficed. I thought Ollie Clarke was very poor in midfield, did not want to tackle and seemed to wander around in midfield watching others. He improved slightly after the sending off and fair play to him scored the winner. Having said that he is in my opinion a shadow of the player from the end of last season and I for one would see no hope for us without Lines and Sercombe both playing in the same side. Clarke, Sinclair and either Lines or Sercombe is as far as I am concerned a recipe for disaster.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 10, 2017 19:30:37 GMT
gasinsider , A pass for the first goal which Sinclair ,if playing, would not have attempted and therefore the player slipping would not have mattered. It seems to get forgotten the number of times that Lines wilkl turn one way and then the other then release a long pass which stretches play. Sinclair can only really play in home matches in place of Ollie Clarke because otherwise we become ultra defensive very easily with no width. IMO we lack a bit of quality this season which is being shown up more by last seasons players struggling fo9r form. Leadbitter, Sweeney, Brown and Ollie Clarke are all struggling at the moment for last seasons form and with Moore struggling generally and Broom not yet good enough we are really struggling for width. Good post!! Good post? Not for me. Heavy overuse of the word struggling. water poor journalism.
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Post by bluestone on Sept 10, 2017 20:03:34 GMT
Good post? Not for me. Heavy overuse of the word struggling. water poor journalism. Not to mention the numerous typos!
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Post by c4h10 on Sept 10, 2017 20:27:51 GMT
Good post? Not for me. Heavy overuse of the word struggling. water poor journalism. Careful with your posts, chaps, now that Matty's gone.
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Post by gasincider on Sept 10, 2017 22:07:46 GMT
gasinsider , A pass for the first goal which Sinclair ,if playing, would not have attempted and therefore the player slipping would not have mattered. It seems to get forgotten the number of times that Lines wilkl turn one way and then the other then release a long pass which stretches play. Sinclair can only really play in home matches in place of Ollie Clarke because otherwise we become ultra defensive very easily with no width. IMO we lack a bit of quality this season which is being shown up more by last seasons players struggling fo9r form. Leadbitter, Sweeney, Brown and Ollie Clarke are all struggling at the moment for last seasons form and with Moore struggling generally and Broom not yet good enough we are really struggling for width. I said it was not a great pass Steve. I still say it. It was down the defenders throat. By the way, how do you know Sincs would not have created or scored himself? It's impossible to know.
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Post by warehamgas on Sept 10, 2017 22:32:48 GMT
I think we're definitely stronger than last season. It also massively helps that we've played these clubs last season so we know them where as last season it was a bit like unknown territory every week. Boating and colket on loan were ok but compared to signing Sercombe well there's no comparison. Kroos and puddy were crap and now we've got 3 keepers who can all hold their own we've got a good cover for brown , partington has broken through and has been excellent and Telford has done more in one game than Luke James did all season. Yes we are just as you say. The players brought in are much better than those we lost. Where I do agree with Steve is if we keep playing 433 then we might be stretched a bit in central midfield so hopefully that won't handicap us. And if you look at the stats given by bluestone we are doing better than last season match by match. UTG!
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Post by Deleted on Sept 10, 2017 23:14:46 GMT
gasinsider , A pass for the first goal which Sinclair ,if playing, would not have attempted and therefore the player slipping would not have mattered. It seems to get forgotten the number of times that Lines wilkl turn one way and then the other then release a long pass which stretches play. Sinclair can only really play in home matches in place of Ollie Clarke because otherwise we become ultra defensive very easily with no width. IMO we lack a bit of quality this season which is being shown up more by last seasons players struggling fo9r form. Leadbitter, Sweeney, Brown and Ollie Clarke are all struggling at the moment for last seasons form and with Moore struggling generally and Broom not yet good enough we are really struggling for width. I said it was not a great pass Steve. I still say it. It was down the defenders throat. By the way, how do you know Sincs would not have created or scored himself? It's impossible to know.
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