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Post by Deleted on Oct 14, 2017 21:38:07 GMT
No wingers or wide men and a £350k striker played everywhere but upfront alongside a big bloke in which in his first interview he said he liked to play alongside.
Not a bashing post, we matched them today, we have an amazing team spirt and desire to win games. If Bodin had played and played at 7 out of 10 I think we would have won because whoever scored first won this game and one moment of Bodin brilliance, a goal or assist and we would have had 3 points.
I am told first choice was Nicholls and second choice was another Div1 striker, I think the second choice may have better for us as we play and are set up. I want Nicholls to succeed, he got 11 or 12 last season at this level but he needs to be played upfront and in a 3 it’s killing him.
Someone made me smile on the way out “That Broadbent mistake would have got him killed in Afghan, welcome to football son!”
Prediction, draw or win for us Tuesday night if the defence performs, never seen a team spirit like it since 1990 side, they are so honest, they will got for it at Shrewsbury.
Finally, I would fine Ollie Clarke, yellow card for back chat, we had to take him off because of his yellow, we were settled in midfield before that and he’s mature enough now to know the consequences of abusing a referee.
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Post by oldgas on Oct 15, 2017 7:55:16 GMT
£350k - you know this how?
Agree about Ollie, he set himself up for a booking early in the first half for berating the linesman over a throw-in deep in their half.
Referees don't like that and the ref was itching to fix him up. I was wincing every time Ollie went in for a tackle, he does like to leave a bit behind if he can. It appeared he had lost it a little bit and duly got his pre-ordained yellow. DC had to take him off, you could see the ref was just waiting his opportunity to finish him off.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 15, 2017 8:07:12 GMT
Sorry Oldgas, it might have been £250k I just plucked a figure out of the air, even it was £100k, play the lad in his correct position.
Ollie in the holding role was working, his substitution could have been Leadbetter for a tired Partington for example. I won’t accepy yellows for back chat like that, I’ve never seen a ref change his decision when a player shouts at him and they always defend their linesman and Ollie’s card was marked. He did this last season and I started a thread on it because he then went suspended for a game.
Byron Moore, I just don’t get it why Montano wasn’t kept if he wasn’t going to be replaced? And Broom might as well get minutes over Moore.
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Post by Okebournegas on Oct 15, 2017 8:10:51 GMT
No wingers or wide men and a £350k striker played everywhere but upfront alongside a big bloke in which in his first interview he said he liked to play alongside. Not a bashing post, we matched them today, we have an amazing team spirt and desire to win games. If Bodin had played and played at 7 out of 10 I think we would have won because whoever scored first won this game and one moment of Bodin brilliance, a goal or assist and we would have had 3 points. I am told first choice was Nicholls and second choice was another Div1 striker, I think the second choice may have better for us as we play and are set up. I want Nicholls to succeed, he got 11 or 12 last season at this level but he needs to be played upfront and in a 3 it’s killing him. Someone made me smile on the way out “That Broadbent mistake would have got him killed in Afghan, welcome to football son!” Prediction, draw or win for us Tuesday night if the defence performs, never seen a team spirit like it since 1990 side, they are so honest, they will got for it at Shrewsbury. Finally, I would fine Ollie Clarke, yellow card for back chat, we had to take him off because of his yellow, we were settled in midfield before that and he’s mature enough now to know the consequences of abusing a referee. That's a good honest assessment there roadman , I pretty much am of the same opinion as yourself in regards to Nichols.
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Post by Hugo the Elder on Oct 15, 2017 8:24:14 GMT
Obviously I'm not a professional footballer but surely playing as part of a front 3 isn't massively different to playing as a front 2??
The guy is a professional footballer FFS.
The Centre halves can play as a pair or a three. The full backs can play as a four or a five and the midfielders play more or less anywhere across the middle.
It's not like we are asking the guy to play in goal is it??!!
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Post by Topper Gas on Oct 15, 2017 8:31:23 GMT
But would you be really happy if DC dropped Gaffney to start with Nichols upfront? Regardless Nichols did little when he replaced Gaffney, compared to Telford when he came on.
4-3-3 is a good formation for Bodin but pointless whilst he's out injured.
Just realised we'd have been 6th if we'd won yesterday!
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Post by Wembley_Gas on Oct 15, 2017 8:39:48 GMT
Byron Moore, I just don’t get it why Montano wasn’t kept if he wasn’t going to be replaced? And Broom might as well get minutes over Moore. Been thinking about this. We all know the reason Moore is still here over Montano is that he was still in contract and Monty's was up but I do think that DC genuinely did have a replacement on his wish list. However, let's face it there were lots of games last season when neither of the misfiring Ms were picked to start and we went with Bodin offering width one side and then the other midfielders tucking in tight. That meant if one of the Ms did get on it would only be for a cameo role. So if you're DC and you are thinking the replacement for Monty is likely to make 12 starts and 16 apps from the bench then the wages and any transfer fee you're likely to put aside for it will be comparatively small. As he said himself he was shocked at the prices and wages quoted in the last window and those figures did not seem to dip as the window approached its end. We did have some irons in the fire in the last week but they chose other clubs or stayed where they were. When you you look at it from the prospective targets point of view he knows 1 DC guarantees no one a starting slot, 2 Rovers do not use wingers every game 3 fail to impress and there are already another couple of players in the squad who could usurp your place 4 even if the team has a successful season you are likely to have made less than twenty starts in that campaign. Recipe there for not getting the transfer business done then. However, decent wingers frozen out at their current clubs might be willing to take a punt on making a go of it with us in January so that might be one change we see when the mid season window opens
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Post by daniel300380 on Oct 15, 2017 14:00:47 GMT
Obviously I'm not a professional footballer but surely playing as part of a front 3 isn't massively different to playing as a front 2?? The guy is a professional footballer FFS. The Centre halves can play as a pair or a three. The full backs can play as a four or a five and the midfielders play more or less anywhere across the middle. It's not like we are asking the guy to play in goal is it??!! Depends how we set up. In a front 2 you normally have licence to work through the middle and have less defending to do and will get a lot more scoring chances. If you are wide of a front 3 a lot of the time you will end up playing on the wing and have a lot more responsibility defensively. Wide of a 3 suits players like Bodin better who can beat a man and is more of a winger. Nichols definitely looks like he's more suited to playing 442, but we don't have the wingers to play that formation.
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Post by stevek192 on Oct 18, 2017 8:16:06 GMT
So much of this makes sense especially after last night. DCs tactics this season- 2 full backs both who have to attack rather than defend because all we have out wide is Bodin and he has to come inside as he is mostly the only player who can score goals A central defence which could adequately be described as one of those famous chocolates "Soft Centre" A midfield that pretty well picks itself because there is little to no competition A front three none of whom really want to play up top and would prefer to be the number 2 striker. Result- A team that blows hot and cold which might match last seasons efforts but more than likely finish a few places below last season unless 3 or 4 quality signings are made in January which if the summer dealings are anything to go by won't happen.
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Post by tommym9 on Oct 18, 2017 8:24:45 GMT
So much of this makes sense especially after last night. DCs tactics this season- 2 full backs both who have to attack rather than defend because all we have out wide is Bodin and he has to come inside as he is mostly the only player who can score goals A central defence which could adequately be described as one of those famous chocolates "Soft Centre" A midfield that pretty well picks itself because there is little to no competitionA front three none of whom really want to play up top and would prefer to be the number 2 striker. Result- A team that blows hot and cold which might match last seasons efforts but more than likely finish a few places below last season unless 3 or 4 quality signings are made in January which if the summer dealings are anything to go by won't happen. This is the crux of it for me so far this season. Sinclair getting injured restricted DCs options even further. Glad to see him get on the pitch last night. To play devils advocate would a mid-table finish be the end of the world this season with a few decent signings in January?
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Post by Hugo the Elder on Oct 18, 2017 8:26:16 GMT
So much of this makes sense especially after last night. DCs tactics this season- 2 full backs both who have to attack rather than defend because all we have out wide is Bodin and he has to come inside as he is mostly the only player who can score goals A central defence which could adequately be described as one of those famous chocolates "Soft Centre" A midfield that pretty well picks itself because there is little to no competition A front three none of whom really want to play up top and would prefer to be the number 2 striker. Result- A team that blows hot and cold which might match last seasons efforts but more than likely finish a few places below last season unless 3 or 4 quality signings are made in January which if the summer dealings are anything to go by won't happen. Also, the fullbacks have to defend as well as attack because they get sod all protection from the wide players in front of them.
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Post by midlandgas213 on Oct 18, 2017 9:15:06 GMT
Simply
We are not good enough at this level and that starts with the manager
Simples
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Post by tommym9 on Oct 18, 2017 9:17:33 GMT
Simply We are not good enough at this level and that starts with the manager Simples A 10th place finish last season and us sitting 13th currently would work against your argument there.
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Post by Marshy on Oct 18, 2017 9:24:58 GMT
Simply We are not good enough at this level and that starts with the manager Simples And there's me thinking we were the best thing since sliced bread after our 6 - 0 win Silly me! Long old season yet all this panicking is totally uncalled for.
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Post by bradfordmeyerbiggs on Oct 18, 2017 9:27:40 GMT
Simply We are not good enough at this level and that starts with the manager Simples And there's me thinking we were the best thing since sliced bread after our 6 - 0 win Silly me! Long old season yet all this panicking is totally uncalled for. Trying not to get too emotional about it but there are worrying cracks beginning to show. At the moment mood is concerned.
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Post by philbemmygas on Oct 18, 2017 11:30:10 GMT
And there's me thinking we were the best thing since sliced bread after our 6 - 0 win Silly me! Long old season yet all this panicking is totally uncalled for. Trying not to get too emotional about it but there are worrying cracks beginning to show. At the moment mood is concerned. The worrying cracks you mention of is more fan based than player wise in my opinion; they seem a genuine bunch of lads who will work and support each other. We need to perhaps play less gung ho and settle for anything from a game for a couple of weeks and see if the those struggling for a bit of form pick up, all is not lost yet this season. We are as close to the playoffs as we are to relegation. UTG
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Post by bradfordmeyerbiggs on Oct 18, 2017 11:43:30 GMT
Trying not to get too emotional about it but there are worrying cracks beginning to show. At the moment mood is concerned. The worrying cracks you mention of is more fan based than player wise in my opinion; they seem a genuine bunch of lads who will work and support each other. We need to perhaps play less gung ho and settle for anything from a game for a couple of weeks and see if the those struggling for a bit of form pick up, all is not lost yet this season. We are as close to the playoffs as we are to relegation. UTG So do you think that the players Rovers have are good enough to beat the teams at the top of this division as the stats so far show that they aren't? Definitely need to do business in January otherwise another season of mediocrity beckons.
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Post by southvillegas on Oct 18, 2017 12:06:27 GMT
This season is markedly similar to the 2010/11 season when we got relegated from leauge one last time with Paul Trollope. That season we got hammered 6-2 away at Sheffield W and 5 nil away at Leyton orient and 5-1 home loss to the Saints.
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Post by Topper Gas on Oct 18, 2017 12:14:08 GMT
This season is markedly similar to the 2010/11 season when we got relegated from leauge one last time with Paul Trollope. That season we got hammered 6-2 away at Sheffield W and 5 nil away at Leyton orient and 5-1 home loss to the Saints. You sense big defeats sap the confidence and then the team gets in a tail spin towards the bottom 4. Whilst posters are complaining about team selection, 3 of the 4 goals, possibly all 4, were down to individual mistakes, as was Oxford's goal on Saturday. Perhaps having 5 defenders on the pitch would make us stronger at the back?
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Post by Deleted on Oct 18, 2017 12:22:53 GMT
There are signs of the second season for Trollope where we got smashed in games but I am not even going down that route. Trollope struggler with man management and got rid of all his leaders like Phillips, Lescott, Disley, Lescott, Hinton and Elliott. They were replaced by Blizzard, loan keepers, Tunnicliffe etc.
We now have a manager who is excellent at man management who isn’t scared of anyone. Next season won’t be like Trollope’s relegation season because by January DC will know who is coming with him on the next journey.
We still have experience in the squad but just not in the key areas, central defence and I mean an older head. Lines, Sercombe, Slocombe have all played the game long enough. Right now we need a Gary Roberts out wide like when we bought Monky and Igoe in. I would love a Tom Pope sort up front as well, target man leading the line as we are very direct without wingers.
I trust DC, he made mistakes recruiting in the summer, Ferguson did this as has Mourinho, it happens but I won’t compare DC to the failure like Paul Trollope who left us in a mess with the team he left behind.
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