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Post by Henbury Gas on Nov 6, 2017 10:05:11 GMT
Yes and very soon Cuckoo yes i understand as part of the community facilities at the Colony, there will be a Bird feeding table
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Post by bradfordmeyerbiggs on Nov 6, 2017 10:27:03 GMT
Does anyone now believe we will have. 1] A new or redeveloped ground fit for the championship? 2] A good quality training facility of championship standard? 3] A category 2 academy. 4] An infrastructure and team capable of competing long term in the championship. All hugely expensive with i would suggest the new ground essential in a relatively short timescale. So does anyone think this all this will happen? 1) A redeveloped ground - Yes. Championship fit - Borderline. Although, I am concerned about how long all this will take? 2) A good quality training facility - Yes. I think this will happen quicker than the ground because it is a must for Rovers to become self sufficient. 3) A category 2 academy - Yes 4) An infrastructure and team capable of competing long term in the Championship. - Short term - Yes, Long term - No. I think long term a move to a new stadium has to happen to enable Rovers to keep growing. No good having an 18,000 stadium when there are 45+ thousand Gasheads potentially who would support Rovers in the Premier League if the dream was to happen.
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Post by Topper Gas on Nov 6, 2017 10:29:34 GMT
Does anyone now believe we will have. 1] A new or redeveloped ground fit for the championship? 2] A good quality training facility of championship standard? 3] A category 2 academy. 4] An infrastructure and team capable of competing long term in the championship. All hugely expensive with i would suggest the new ground essential in a relatively short timescale. So does anyone think this all this will happen? Some will, some will be take much longer than initially thought. 1) The ground is a big unknown, it will happen if the will is there. 2) Yes. I expect planning permission to go in soon and signed off by February with the other issues sorted out. 3) It was stated that Category 3 would be the initial plan, Category 2 was always going to be longer term. 4 a) infrastructure being added to, such as coaches, development squad and the appointment of the Commercial Director. 4 b) The team needs quality added, I expect 2 in January. After that it depends on where we are with 1-4a. Why would the ALQ's commit to spending £m's at The Colony but not then proceed to regen in the Mem? Both must surely be linked otherwise they are effectively throwing away £m's of their own money with virtually no chance of getting it back.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 6, 2017 10:36:42 GMT
Does anyone now believe we will have. 1] A new or redeveloped ground fit for the championship? 2] A good quality training facility of championship standard? 3] A category 2 academy. 4] An infrastructure and team capable of competing long term in the championship. All hugely expensive with i would suggest the new ground essential in a relatively short timescale. So does anyone think this all this will happen? 1) A redeveloped ground - Yes. Championship fit - Borderline. Although, I am concerned about how long all this will take? 2) A good quality training facility - Yes. I think this will happen quicker than the ground because it is a must for Rovers to become self sufficient. 3) A category 2 academy - Yes 4) An infrastructure and team capable of competing long term in the Championship. - Short term - Yes, Long term - No. I think long term a move to a new stadium has to happen to enable Rovers to keep growing. No good having an 18,000 stadium when there are 45+ thousand Gasheads potentially who would support Rovers in the Premier League if the dream was to happen. Thanks,what bothers me is that if were losing money every year we will need to get an improved ground with commercial activity etc asap,i would happily settle for a 18k stadium myself because it would give us a chance to progress in the modern game. Surely 5 years for a new ground with the club losing money is too long? Its all left to each individuals faith at the moment and im struggling to feel optimistic.
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Post by bradfordmeyerbiggs on Nov 6, 2017 10:42:15 GMT
1) A redeveloped ground - Yes. Championship fit - Borderline. Although, I am concerned about how long all this will take? 2) A good quality training facility - Yes. I think this will happen quicker than the ground because it is a must for Rovers to become self sufficient. 3) A category 2 academy - Yes 4) An infrastructure and team capable of competing long term in the Championship. - Short term - Yes, Long term - No. I think long term a move to a new stadium has to happen to enable Rovers to keep growing. No good having an 18,000 stadium when there are 45+ thousand Gasheads potentially who would support Rovers in the Premier League if the dream was to happen. Thanks,what bothers me is that if were losing money every year we will need to get an improved ground with commercial activity etc asap,i would happily settle for a 18k stadium myself because it would give us a chance to progress in the modern game. Surely 5 years for a new ground with the club losing money is too long? Its all left to each individuals faith at the moment and im struggling to feel optimistic. I am trying to keep the faith, but logic is asking where the evidence is of this evolution? UTG
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Post by stuart1974 on Nov 6, 2017 10:46:11 GMT
Some will, some will be take much longer than initially thought. 1) The ground is a big unknown, it will happen if the will is there. 2) Yes. I expect planning permission to go in soon and signed off by February with the other issues sorted out. 3) It was stated that Category 3 would be the initial plan, Category 2 was always going to be longer term. 4 a) infrastructure being added to, such as coaches, development squad and the appointment of the Commercial Director. 4 b) The team needs quality added, I expect 2 in January. After that it depends on where we are with 1-4a. Why would the ALQ's commit to spending £m's at The Colony but not then proceed to regen in the Mem? Both must surely be linked otherwise they are effectively throwing away £m's of their own money with virtually no chance of getting it back. Didn't say they wouldn't, if they are committed as I hope then it will happen, although the scale and expediency may vary. I'm just not convinced that the Colony and a regenerated stadium are as interlinked as you think (you may well be right) as they could be separate projects with each having their own commercial facilities.
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Post by baggins on Nov 6, 2017 11:16:54 GMT
Trump of the Rovers. Got a strange familiar tune to it.
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Post by baggins on Nov 6, 2017 11:18:38 GMT
No but they do taste nice and come to think of it I married 2 of them. I can say that now as I’m on my 3rd lol! You ate your first 2 wives? Does the 3rd know this?
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Post by stuart1974 on Nov 6, 2017 11:21:29 GMT
No but they do taste nice and come to think of it I married 2 of them. I can say that now as I’m on my 3rd lol! You ate your first 2 wives? Does the 3rd know this? I think he is telling porkies.
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Post by Marshy on Nov 6, 2017 11:24:00 GMT
You ate your first 2 wives? Does the 3rd know this? I think he is telling porkies. Ah very good, that was a crackling joke!
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Post by Marshy on Nov 6, 2017 11:25:48 GMT
No but they do taste nice and come to think of it I married 2 of them. I can say that now as I’m on my 3rd lol! You ate your first 2 wives? Does the 3rd know this? Why not? It saved me a fortune on divorce settlements.
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Post by stuart1974 on Nov 6, 2017 11:37:24 GMT
I think he is telling porkies. Ah very good, that was a crackling joke! I presume you have poor judgement as they were obviously one of your rasher decisions. I'm here all day 😀
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Post by Henbury Gas on Nov 6, 2017 11:50:46 GMT
Ah very good, that was a crackling joke! I presume you have poor judgement as they were obviously one of your rasher decisions. I'm here all day 😀 Did these pigs have any clothes on, if not they must have been streaky ...
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Post by baggins on Nov 6, 2017 12:11:30 GMT
Sorry everyone.
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Post by scoobydoogas on Nov 6, 2017 12:34:00 GMT
I presume you have poor judgement as they were obviously one of your rasher decisions. I'm here all day 😀 Did these pigs have any clothes on, if not they must have been streaky ... Just blankets
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Post by baggins on Nov 6, 2017 12:38:00 GMT
Did these pigs have any clothes on, if not they must have been streaky ... Just blankets You, out.
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Post by gasincider on Nov 6, 2017 15:49:08 GMT
A question for Gasincider and his source, why did the ALQ's spend a £1m+ buying the land at Almondsbury if there sole intention was to make a fast buck out of the Mem site? Plus why employee a CE and Academy staff, wouldn't it make more sense to reduce staff numbers. What about the rumoured £500K+ spent on players this summer. Say their sole intention was to sell the site for housing what are they going to do with Rovers, they'll have to find a ground somewhere, AG is out of the question, Twerton not up to holding league football without a big cash injection and there's nowhere else locally suitable. Why would Weal and his family want to tarnish their good name just to make £5m/£10m out of making an English football club homeless. I feel Weal and his family had good intentions when they bought the club, whether they've still got the finance, even motivation, is the big question ex BoD's probably can't answer like the rest of us but there's no need to try and discredit the family, as at least we don't seem to be on the verge of bankruptcy like we were when they were in control of the club. Para 1) Why indeed. No logic. Para2) Remember the time line. Their intention was to sell the Mem for housing, because they assumed we would be at the UWE. Para3)They wouldn't, and I've never suggested that. Para4)Agree. Not trying to discredit the family. They have changed their mind. Simples. Only Wael would love to move us forward.
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Post by gasincider on Nov 6, 2017 15:58:48 GMT
No I didn't. I just said I didn't know if there was an alternative site for the Gillingham club. I said nothing about buying them to just put houses on them. I stated clearly that you couldn't do anything else at Gillingham to make it a viable risk other than put housing on it assuming there was somewhere to move the club. As I don't know if that is a possibility as I know nowt about Gillingham, or care for that matter, I assume the AQs realised it was a poor prospect and looked at us. They said at the the outset that the Mem was a no goer, but it didn't matter as we were going to the UWE. As the situation is now, they would never have got involved from a football point of view. But we would still be a good bet to redevelop the site for housing. That's what worries me, and if our debts keep mounting as they are, there is only one way for them to get their money back. And don't think it doesn't happen. Remember Brighton? It was reported at the time, not least on here, that it was the Gillingham owner who turned them down not that the al-Qadis walked away. Also, Hamer stated that had we stayed in non league, they wouldn't be looking at us. That is despite the UWE still being available. It seems to me that the UWE was a bonus rather than the reason. I also recall Wael being quite specific in his words, that is we need a "new stadium". That said, you are obviously concerned by what you have learned. Have you been able to get your information confirmed by other unrelated sources and are you sure as to their motives? I'm sure that Wael wanted us as we could be a great prospect. When NH brought them in, he was looking for investors. Not a takeover. SH was right. It was the prospect of a potentially decent club being woken up that brought them here. No way would they have bothered with a non league club. Their motives for us have changed. Wael aside, they now realise the costs involved, and are no longer interested. Wouldn't be surprised if they are looking for a buyer 🤐
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Post by Henbury Gas on Nov 6, 2017 15:59:30 GMT
A question for Gasincider and his source, why did the ALQ's spend a £1m+ buying the land at Almondsbury if there sole intention was to make a fast buck out of the Mem site? Plus why employee a CE and Academy staff, wouldn't it make more sense to reduce staff numbers. What about the rumoured £500K+ spent on players this summer. Say their sole intention was to sell the site for housing what are they going to do with Rovers, they'll have to find a ground somewhere, AG is out of the question, Twerton not up to holding league football without a big cash injection and there's nowhere else locally suitable. Why would Weal and his family want to tarnish their good name just to make £5m/£10m out of making an English football club homeless. I feel Weal and his family had good intentions when they bought the club, whether they've still got the finance, even motivation, is the big question ex BoD's probably can't answer like the rest of us but there's no need to try and discredit the family, as at least we don't seem to be on the verge of bankruptcy like we were when they were in control of the club. Para 1) Why indeed. No logic. Para2) Remember the time line. Their intention was to sell the Mem for housing, because they assumed we would be at the UWE. Para3)They wouldn't, and I've never suggested that. Para4)Agree. Not trying to discredit the family. They have changed their mind. Simples. Only Wael would love to move us forward.Would like to expand on that little nugget please, did that Info come from EW or BSS by chance ?
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Post by LJG on Nov 6, 2017 16:17:50 GMT
It was reported at the time, not least on here, that it was the Gillingham owner who turned them down not that the al-Qadis walked away. Also, Hamer stated that had we stayed in non league, they wouldn't be looking at us. That is despite the UWE still being available. It seems to me that the UWE was a bonus rather than the reason. I also recall Wael being quite specific in his words, that is we need a "new stadium". That said, you are obviously concerned by what you have learned. Have you been able to get your information confirmed by other unrelated sources and are you sure as to their motives? I'm sure that Wael wanted us as we could be a great prospect. When NH brought them in, he was looking for investors. Not a takeover. SH was right. It was the prospect of a potentially decent club being woken up that brought them here. No way would they have bothered with a non league club. Their motives for us have changed. Wael aside, they now realise the costs involved, and are no longer interested. Wouldn't be surprised if they are looking for a buyer 🤐 If Higgs was only looking for investors why was the club for sale? "The club has always been up for sale," admitted Higgs - BBC Sport 20 August 2014.
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