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Post by Deleted on Nov 18, 2017 20:00:21 GMT
Blamed himself. Haven't you listened to his interview? Yes I just have and it's the same old dribble again except he picked his stubble instead of his ear Bit like your posts then. ZzzzZzz
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Post by Raj Gas on Nov 18, 2017 20:01:48 GMT
Terrible first half display. It's not an exaggeration to say we could've been 4-0 down after 25 minutes and 6-0 at half time and would've been if it wasn't for a couple of decent saves from Smith and some shocking finishing. The way Wimbledon breezed through our midfield and defence with ease at times was embarrassing. Broadbent was poor today with a couple lapses in concentration that could've proved costly, but Lockyer was even worse - the first goal was far too easy with Locks and Leads at fault allowing Barcham through virtually unchallenged, although to be fair to him in the end he finished the goal well with a lovely dink over Smith. The second goal was a quality finish from a quality player in Forrester, but he was allowed to cut inside far too easily for my liking. The third goal was schoolboy stuff - a large punt forward, one touch and the second in the back of the net. Shocking defending, again Lockyer's side. With Sincs narrow on the right side and Sercs on the left, the lack of width and wingers was there for all to see. Not to mention the lack of a genuine quality defensive midfielder to shield the back four in the side which is proving costly. We need to add quality to the side - a winger (or two), a defensive midfielder, a centre back and a goalscorer. January can't come soon enough as far as I'm concerned. I didn't go today but have a couple of thoughts Why don't we play with wing-backs to give us some width? You mentioned Broadbent was poor is that anything to do with Lockyer and his lack of form or does Broadbent perhaps get nervous next to the captain? Twice recently he has had decent games alongside Rollin or is it the opposition?
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Post by Raj Gas on Nov 18, 2017 20:04:50 GMT
January is 6 weeks away which must be at least 6 or 8(?) games, we can't just set and wait for the transfer window to open or we could be in the drop zone by then, we did to get a defence coach in now, surely Yates would sooner help us out than go Xmas shopping with the misses? Regardless who thinks we will get players in on the 1st rather than 31st? You have to question whether Thursday's Having a Gas interview by DC should have been allowed by the club to go out unedited it now seems to me as bad as Ratner's cr@p comments. DC has acknowledged he needs to add a defensive coach and has already unsuccessfully approached a few people. As much as I like Yatesy, he was here last season and we still conceded more or the same amount as three relegated sides. Hopefully the right person is found and willing to join ASAP. Defensively we have very little experience except for Brown so not having a defensive coach and not replacing two senior players I think is very remiss on Dc' s part.
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Post by Gastafari on Nov 18, 2017 20:18:50 GMT
January is 6 weeks away which must be at least 6 or 8(?) games, we can't just set and wait for the transfer window to open or we could be in the drop zone by then, we did to get a defence coach in now, surely Yates would sooner help us out than go Xmas shopping with the misses? Regardless who thinks we will get players in on the 1st rather than 31st? You have to question whether Thursday's Having a Gas interview by DC should have been allowed by the club to go out unedited it now seems to me as bad as Ratner's cr@p comments. DC has acknowledged he needs to add a defensive coach and has already unsuccessfully approached a few people. As much as I like Yatesy, he was here last season and we still conceded more or the same amount as three relegated sides. Hopefully the right person is found and willing to join ASAP. Whats Andy Tilson up to? Is he still at Exeter? Or even Billy Clark, wasn't he youth coach a few years ago? Im sure he'll be more than happy to help out
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Post by pirate on Nov 18, 2017 20:21:41 GMT
Terrible first half display. It's not an exaggeration to say we could've been 4-0 down after 25 minutes and 6-0 at half time and would've been if it wasn't for a couple of decent saves from Smith and some shocking finishing. The way Wimbledon breezed through our midfield and defence with ease at times was embarrassing. Broadbent was poor today with a couple lapses in concentration that could've proved costly, but Lockyer was even worse - the first goal was far too easy with Locks and Leads at fault allowing Barcham through virtually unchallenged, although to be fair to him in the end he finished the goal well with a lovely dink over Smith. The second goal was a quality finish from a quality player in Forrester, but he was allowed to cut inside far too easily for my liking. The third goal was schoolboy stuff - a large punt forward, one touch and the second in the back of the net. Shocking defending, again Lockyer's side. With Sincs narrow on the right side and Sercs on the left, the lack of width and wingers was there for all to see. Not to mention the lack of a genuine quality defensive midfielder to shield the back four in the side which is proving costly. We need to add quality to the side - a winger (or two), a defensive midfielder, a centre back and a goalscorer. January can't come soon enough as far as I'm concerned. I didn't go today but have a couple of thoughts Why don't we play with wing-backs to give us some width? You mentioned Broadbent was poor is that anything to do with Lockyer and his lack of form or does Broadbent perhaps get nervous next to the captain? Twice recently he has had decent games alongside Rollin or is it the opposition? I can't answer the wing back question because only DC can answer that, but with Bola and Leadbitter the option is there and I'd like to see us try playing that way for a few games - I think the central midfielders and defenders we have would probably benefit from the formation too. As for Broadbent I don't think you can blame Lockyer for his lapses in concentration, although Locks' poor form obviously isn't going to help the situation. Broadbent is still very inexperienced at this level and I think today he just came up against two streetwise strikers in Taylor and McDonald. He doesn't look out of place at this level overall from what I've seen, but at this moment in time probably isn't a player you would start if you are looking to be a top 6 side. He will get better though the more games he plays and mistakes are to be expected from a player who has stepped up 5 divisions.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 18, 2017 20:21:53 GMT
Let's admit it, a lot of the dark cloud over the club is down to rumours started on this forum. Agreed. Whoever is trying to destabilise the club is winning. Broadbent and lockyer to dc post match "but boss taylor only pushed us around and made us look stupid because of a couple of posters on gaschat" What utter rubbish!
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Post by gashead1981 on Nov 18, 2017 20:23:19 GMT
My overview:
Could have been 4 nil down at half time had Wimbledon strikers not missed 2 open goals. Shocking from them really. All 3 goals were gifted through poor defending and all completely avoidable, although it was a hell of a trap from the long ball that allowed the chance for the 3rd.
DC today set us up to fail. The cardinal sin for me is always players out of position. Sercs and Beard are not wingers. Why are they being deployed as wide men? Ollie Clarke is just a passenger right now, or maybe has found his level in the league below, he was absolutely dreadful today, didn’t tackle, didn’t win any second balls and every pass (if you could call it that) went nowhere near any rovers shirt.
Smith: Had no chance with any of the goals and made a few decent stops although did drop an abolsute clanger. 5 Lockyer: awful first half, mediocre second. He just isn’t captain material yet. 3 Broadbent: Today he looked like an amateur in his first year. Glad DC took him off. 2 Brown: Had a better second half and looked to get forward once sercs moved into the middle. Good finish for his goal. 5 Leads: At fault for the first goal but got into the game. He was our only outlet and made the effort. If only he had a final ball in him. 6 Lines: Did nothing first half, was better in the second once the subs were made. 4 Clarke: worst player on the field, did nothing, gave away possession and made no tackles of note. 1 Beard: Can’t play wide midfield. Bullied by their FB constantly but was defo clipped when he went down, unlucky to get booked. 4 Sercs: Not a wide man, and always looking to come inside but couldn’t make anything happen. 4 Nicholls: Lightweight and lazy, got brushed off the ball like an amateur and never looked like he wanted it anyway. Surprised he wasn’t subbed earlier. 2 Ellis: Did well, chased, battled, won headers, he just had no support or service. If the others had his fight today we may have gotten a point. 7
BBB: Good to see him back and he got involved straight away. You could tell he was rusty. 5 Sweeney: It looked like we had a centre half on the field when he replaced Broadbent. Showed some desire and fight at least. 5 Gaffney: Did everything Nicholls didn’t and certainly added some presence. He should be in front in the starting order. 5
From his interview today what he needs to do is stick to a starting 11 now with players in positions they know. For me, pun intended, I would go 352 and stick with that until Jan when we can recruit and build. And get Telford involved.
Smith
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Bola/Brown Leads
Lines/Beard Sercs Bodin
Ellis/ Telford Gaffney
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Post by pirate on Nov 18, 2017 20:31:29 GMT
DC has acknowledged he needs to add a defensive coach and has already unsuccessfully approached a few people. As much as I like Yatesy, he was here last season and we still conceded more or the same amount as three relegated sides. Hopefully the right person is found and willing to join ASAP. Whats Andy Tilson up to? Is he still at Exeter? Or even Billy Clark, wasn't he youth coach a few years ago? Im sure he'll be more than happy to help out Tilly is first team coach at Exeter and Clark is currently head coach at the Bath City Football Academy. I'd love to see Tillson back here as I've heard good things about his coaching abilities and he'd be a great bloke to have around the building, but whether he'd be willing to leave his current role at Exeter is another matter. They play some impressive football and have a great chance of promotion again this season.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 18, 2017 20:33:22 GMT
***g wrap up - we can't defend against a team 5 points below us who have only scored 11 this season & it's down to bullshit on this forum, well perhaps we shut the forum down then & we win every game!! Thats the trouble nowadays we have to have someone to blame for everything - we are not good enough at this level , Simples. Who's responsible for the team? DC. HE is going through a bad patch, it happens. Need to stick with it & regroup. i am no rose tinter by the way but to blame it on bullshit from one forum member?? Jeez there is enough bullshit on here in general to feed all the fields in Gloucestershire . I partly agree with what you’re saying. I think what he means is that there is a lot of negativity within the fans at the minute due to the amount of bullshit that people post on here. It’s not a case of win or lose because of rumours on here but when the fans start turning on the players it must play on their minds. The most ludicrous thing for me is people turning on DC and I do believe that this is of course going to affect his mood. As has been previously stated, DC is a victim of his own success. This is the worst spell we have had since our relegation out of the league. Am I enjoying it? NO! Do I believe we’ll fight back from it? YES! The impatience at clubs and them getting rid of a manager because of one bad patch is what’s wrong with modern football in my opinion. This is where DC and the team need the fans to stick by them and show loyalty as he has done with us. We need to continue to show our support and I am confident that DC will turn it around and all the moaners will end up with egg on their face as they have done when they’ve doubted him in previous seasons. I still strongly believe we’ll be top half come next May. UTG! Top post, fully agree albeit with the possible exception of the last sentence.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 18, 2017 20:39:57 GMT
I thought sercombe was our best player today despite playing out of position,apart from him smith,leadbitter and harrison were decent. The rest of the team were very poor imo. We somehow seem to have become a physically weak team who are easily bullied and pushed around by opponents. AS an example nichols is a similar type of player to easter but gets pushed off the ball where with easter once the ball was at his feet he was as strong as an ox. Mansell,montano,easter and mcchrystal all needed to be replaced probably but we seem to miss their physicality on the pitch.
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Post by peterhooper57 on Nov 18, 2017 20:46:57 GMT
The fans are fine, the team is awful, DC knows he is in trouble, time for Waq to man up and confirm what support is available
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Post by BishopstonBRFC on Nov 18, 2017 20:47:04 GMT
Agreed. Whoever is trying to destabilise the club is winning. Broadbent and lockyer to dc post match "but boss taylor only pushed us around and made us look stupid because of a couple of posters on gaschat" What utter rubbish! So you think the negative atmosphere around the club is only due to what's going on on the pitch and has nothing to do with all the rumours flying around?
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Post by markczgas on Nov 18, 2017 20:48:43 GMT
My overview: Could have been 4 nil down at half time had Wimbledon strikers not missed 2 open goals. Shocking from them really. All 3 goals were gifted through poor defending and all completely avoidable, although it was a hell of a trap from the long ball that allowed the chance for the 3rd. DC today set us up to fail. The cardinal sin for me is always players out of position. Sercs and Beard are not wingers. Why are they being deployed as wide men? Ollie Clarke is just a passenger right now, or maybe has found his level in the league below, he was absolutely dreadful today, didn’t tackle, didn’t win any second balls and every pass (if you could call it that) went nowhere near any rovers shirt. Smith: Had no chance with any of the goals and made a few decent stops although did drop an abolsute clanger. 5 Lockyer: awful first half, mediocre second. He just isn’t captain material yet. 3 Broadbent: Today he looked like an amateur in his first year. Glad DC took him off. 2 Brown: Had a better second half and looked to get forward once sercs moved into the middle. Good finish for his goal. 5 Leads: At fault for the first goal but got into the game. He was our only outlet and made the effort. If only he had a final ball in him. 6 Lines: Did nothing first half, was better in the second once the subs were made. 4 Clarke: worst player on the field, did nothing, gave away possession and made no tackles of note. 1 Beard: Can’t play wide midfield. Bullied by their FB constantly but was defo clipped when he went down, unlucky to get booked. 4 Sercs: Not a wide man, and always looking to come inside but couldn’t make anything happen. 4 Nicholls: Lightweight and lazy, got brushed off the ball like an amateur and never looked like he wanted it anyway. Surprised he wasn’t subbed earlier. 2 Ellis: Did well, chased, battled, won headers, he just had no support or service. If the others had his fight today we may have gotten a point. 7 BBB: Good to see him back and he got involved straight away. You could tell he was rusty. 5 Sweeney: It looked like we had a centre half on the field when he replaced Broadbent. Showed some desire and fight at least. 5 Gaffney: Did everything Nicholls didn’t and certainly added some presence. He should be in front in the starting order. 5 From his interview today what he needs to do is stick to a starting 11 now with players in positions they know. For me, pun intended, I would go 352 and stick with that until Jan when we can recruit and build. And get Telford involved. Smith Locks Sweeney Parts Bola/Brown Leads Lines/Beard Sercs Bodin Ellis/ Telford Gaffney Agree with much of your review. Also agree we need to play 3 - 5 - 2 at the mo and that team, But Smith out and Slocombe in. Smith inspires no confidence in those in front of him. Think Slocombe was treated harshly after Shrews hammering - where yes he should've saved the 2nd.
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Post by oldgas on Nov 18, 2017 20:51:59 GMT
We were utter dross from start to finish. That's down to one person. The last game I watched (Swindon) we were equally as bad.
DC has been Sussed out, he's no longer the surprise package, and he isn't clever enough to know how to change things. A good Conference/league 2 man, but struggling when up against better coaches.
I wonder what Simon Grayson's doing?
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Post by Deleted on Nov 18, 2017 20:52:15 GMT
Broadbent and lockyer to dc post match "but boss taylor only pushed us around and made us look stupid because of a couple of posters on gaschat" What utter rubbish! So you think the negative atmosphere around the club is only due to what's going on on the pitch and has nothing to do with all the rumours flying around? I simply dont believe 1 or 2 posters on a forum make pro footballers play badly. Blackpool put up with all sorts of stuff against the oystens but got promotion last season I dont think the negativity dc/mc were relating to was anything to do with the stuff on forums,i think its deeper than that but its just an opinion.
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Post by Strange Gas on Nov 18, 2017 20:52:37 GMT
Terrible first half display. It's not an exaggeration to say we could've been 4-0 down after 25 minutes and 6-0 at half time and would've been if it wasn't for a couple of decent saves from Smith and some shocking finishing. The way Wimbledon breezed through our midfield and defence with ease at times was embarrassing. Broadbent was poor today with a couple lapses in concentration that could've proved costly, but Lockyer was even worse - the first goal was far too easy with Locks and Leads at fault allowing Barcham through virtually unchallenged, although to be fair to him in the end he finished the goal well with a lovely dink over Smith. The second goal was a quality finish from a quality player in Forrester, but he was allowed to cut inside far too easily for my liking. The third goal was schoolboy stuff - a large punt forward, one touch and the second in the back of the net. Shocking defending, again Lockyer's side. With Sincs narrow on the right side and Sercs on the left, the lack of width and wingers was there for all to see. Not to mention the lack of a genuine quality defensive midfielder to shield the back four in the side which is proving costly. We need to add quality to the side - a winger (or two), a defensive midfielder, a centre back and a goalscorer. January can't come soon enough as far as I'm concerned. January is 6 weeks away which must be at least 6 or 8(?) games, we can't just set and wait for the transfer window to open or we could be in the drop zone by then, we did to get a defence coach in now, surely Yates would sooner help us out than go Xmas shopping with the misses? Regardless who thinks we will get players in on the 1st rather than 31st? You have to question whether Thursday's Having a Gas interview by DC should have been allowed by the club to go out unedited it now seems to me as bad as Ratner's cr@p comments. Totally agree. DC saying he is loyal but that is surely being tested. DC “how much money have I got to build a league 1 standard team boss?” Boss “really sorry Darrel but there’s no proper money, but here is another grand for someone like Rollin” DC “fair enough boss, ta ta for now. Good luck and all that” He hedged it a bit, but his “I will help THEM” worried me. Hope I’m wrong as we need him and need him to turn this around
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Post by Deleted on Nov 18, 2017 20:57:56 GMT
We were utter dross from start to finish. That's down to one person. The last game I watched (Swindon) we were equally as bad. DC has been Sussed out, he's no longer the surprise package, and he isn't clever enough to know how to change things. A good Conference/league 2 man, but struggling when up against better coaches. I wonder what Simon Grayson's doing? So did dc say to his centre-halves "make sure you let taylor make you look stupid today lads" did he say "linesy mate can you make sure every pass is floated in the air to make sure our opponents can win it" Did he say to ollie clarke "make sure you hardly touch the ball or tackle anyone today ollie" I think more than one person were involved in todays debacle myself.
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Post by lastminutewinner on Nov 18, 2017 21:00:21 GMT
Hope they are in training tomorrow. They need to have a 'meet and greet' as they all look like strangers out there, strangers that dont give a toss
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Post by Topper Gas on Nov 18, 2017 21:10:02 GMT
So you think the negative atmosphere around the club is only due to what's going on on the pitch and has nothing to do with all the rumours flying around? I simply dont believe 1 or 2 posters on a forum make pro footballers play badly. Blackpool put up with all sorts of stuff against the oystens but got promotion last season I dont think the negativity dc/mc were relating to was anything to do with the stuff on forums,i think its deeper than that but its just an opinion. Didn't DC come out with the most damning of any interviews ever given by a Rovers manager on Having a Gas, imagine what the changing room was like on Friday when the players turned up for training and that was mentioned that would have a far bigger impact than anything put on social media.
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Post by Antonio Fargas on Nov 18, 2017 21:25:39 GMT
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