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Post by paulpirate on Nov 24, 2017 16:10:07 GMT
Whats all this hate on Hani about? Cos he has no interest in football, we are just an investment to him ...paraphraising Hamer a little. well he won’t make f all out of us
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Post by paulpirate on Nov 24, 2017 16:14:48 GMT
Yes And won't be renewing my season ticket under these lying cheats Another "faithful and true" then. i won’t be renewing at £460 I will be getting the cheapest I can
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Post by tommym9 on Nov 24, 2017 16:19:09 GMT
Whats all this hate on Hani about? Cos he has no interest in football, we are just an investment to him ...paraphraising Hamer a little. I'm not all that upset about that. If he wants to make money out of the club then the stadium needs to be generating income 24/7 that can be used by DC to push us up the leagues. That is the nicest way of looking at it.
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Post by swissgas on Nov 24, 2017 16:28:28 GMT
I took those comments about Dwane Sports with a large pinch of salt. Steve was implying they are a huge corporation with a portfolio of international investments when we all know they are a brass plate company which was incorporated by the Al-Qadi family just prior to the Rovers acquisition and is based at a formation agents office in Jersey. There is no need to try to put up this fog of intrigue it only serves to lessen trust. All true but Hamer gives the impression that Hani is managing the funding like some kind of off-shore private equity fund investment. You probably have the best knowledge of the business world/ finance on the forum and I read your posts with interest and the concerns you have have raised ring true to me but who at the club has the ability to come up with a business plan that will convince Hani - it's clear Hamer, nice guy that he is, has limited understanding of football finance and will struggle to convince Hani without a business plan for the way forward. It's all too piecemeal in the approach to give owners or future investors confidence. It's a pity the business side of the club doesn't interest fans and most don't seem to appreciate how critical it is to the level of enjoyment they can get from supporting Rovers. The beauty of having a plan which is shared with fans is that it brings us together and carries us through the inevitable up's and downs on the field which is basically what "squiffy" posted about yesterday. Nick Higgs kept things to himself, hiding behind confidentiality agreements, and only later we found out he really didn't have much of a plan. But the outcome was tragic for Nick as well as us because what should have been a wonderful experience for him, as Chairman of the football club he loved, turned into a miserable time of stress and anxiety. Now we see a similar thing happening with Steve Hamer and probably with Wael as well. We are being told the owners do not communicate and they will tell us what they are going to do when they are good and ready but we've been down that road before with Nick and it didn't work. It's now clear the Al-Qadi family made a mistake in acquiring Rovers but, as fans of the club, it's in our interests to work with them to help retrieve the situation. To get Hani to agree "We will not sell The Mem without first securing a viable new home for Rovers" would be a first step . And taking a look at how Hearts FC got out of the mess they were in would be a second step.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 24, 2017 16:41:06 GMT
Cos he has no interest in football, we are just an investment to him ...paraphraising Hamer a little. I'm not all that upset about that. If he wants to make money out of the club then the stadium needs to be generating income 24/7 that can be used by DC to push us up the leagues. That is the nicest way of looking at it. What is your Labrador called?
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Post by Deleted on Nov 24, 2017 16:43:42 GMT
All true but Hamer gives the impression that Hani is managing the funding like some kind of off-shore private equity fund investment. You probably have the best knowledge of the business world/ finance on the forum and I read your posts with interest and the concerns you have have raised ring true to me but who at the club has the ability to come up with a business plan that will convince Hani - it's clear Hamer, nice guy that he is, has limited understanding of football finance and will struggle to convince Hani without a business plan for the way forward. It's all too piecemeal in the approach to give owners or future investors confidence. It's a pity the business side of the club doesn't interest fans and most don't seem to appreciate how critical it is to the level of enjoyment they can get from supporting Rovers. The beauty of having a plan which is shared with fans is that it brings us together and carries us through the inevitable up's and downs on the field which is basically what "squiffy" posted about yesterday. Nick Higgs kept things to himself, hiding behind confidentiality agreements, and only later we found out he really didn't have much of a plan. But the outcome was tragic for Nick as well as us because what should have been a wonderful experience for him, as Chairman of the football club he loved, turned into a miserable time of stress and anxiety. Now we see a similar thing happening with Steve Hamer and probably with Wael as well. We are being told the owners do not communicate and they will tell us what they are going to do when they are good and ready but we've been down that road before with Nick and it didn't work. It's now clear the Al-Qadi family made a mistake in acquiring Rovers but, as fans of the club, it's in our interests to work with them to help retrieve the situation. To get Hani to agree "We will not sell The Mem without first securing a viable new home for Rovers" would be a first step . And taking a look at how Hearts FC got out of the mess they were in would be a second step. Wow - I mean what on earth has it all come to, to be feeling like this and have to appeal for them to not screw us over! This is like the biggest U turn since LJ's mum turned around to see the builders wolf whistling her! Depressing!
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Post by BrightonGas on Nov 24, 2017 16:54:09 GMT
Nevermind. You'll possibly work it out. If you can't answer don't bother. That's an idea! Give it some thought
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Post by warehamgas on Nov 24, 2017 16:54:16 GMT
January might not be the best time to buy according to SH but it can certainly b***** you up as we found last year. DC has said money was kept back for January so unless the budget has changed it should be available shouldn’t it? Now if it’s not going to be available then that will send out a very bad message to everyone. But to look on the bright side our current team with BB was comfortably in mid table before our current poor run and tbh we still are if only lower midtable. So it’s a team capable of being in a comfortable position. I reckon I’ll settle for that right now. UTG! Everybody should remember what happened last January - we lost a performing striker - but we gained two players who improved our defence. The transfer market is not the be-all, there are other ways as DC and Hamer proved - so listen up for a change and rely on common sense. Agree. When I said January budget I was meaning loans as well as they will also cost money. They will also be part of the money put aside according to DC. Not really expecting fees to be spent. The transfer market is not the be-all and the players we did get incl. Sercombe, Broadbent and others were well accepted on here but atm Nichols is struggling for goals, meaning the performing striker we had has still not been replaced. Were Nichols to click it might be different, but he hasn’t, yet. UTG!
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Post by gregsy on Nov 24, 2017 17:05:41 GMT
Conversation at today's business lunch:
Steve: "I'll have the Italian white alba truffle"
Hani: "you do realise we're in nando's don't you Steve"
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Post by socrates on Nov 24, 2017 17:16:55 GMT
Whats all this hate on Hani about? I don’t hate him but I hate the fact that he controls the money at our football club and he doesn’t like football. Not great is it ? If it wasn’t our club I’d find it hilarious tbh.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 24, 2017 17:24:52 GMT
Yes And won't be renewing my season ticket under these lying cheats Another "faithful and true" then. Most of our fans do not buy season tickets, he can still go to games without one.
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Post by gas2 on Nov 24, 2017 17:27:09 GMT
Is there been any white smoke today from hani tower
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Post by yategas78 on Nov 24, 2017 17:33:53 GMT
Another "faithful and true" then. Most of our fans do not buy season tickets, he can still go to games without one. I only bought one season ticket in the Ian Atkins era and vowed never to buy one ever again as I thought it brought us bad luck I don't miss many games though and we have still had our fair share of bad luck🤔
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Post by Deleted on Nov 24, 2017 17:53:25 GMT
Most of our fans do not buy season tickets, he can still go to games without one. I only bought one season ticket in the Ian Atkins era and vowed never to buy one ever again as I thought it brought us bad luck I don't miss many games though and we have still had our fair share of bad luck🤔 The only time i didn't get one since Eastville was the Promotion season under Trolls, was just so fed up with the dross on show i thought i would just pick my games. Just goes to show you never know what's around the corner. UTG
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Post by tommym9 on Nov 24, 2017 18:22:41 GMT
I'm not all that upset about that. If he wants to make money out of the club then the stadium needs to be generating income 24/7 that can be used by DC to push us up the leagues. That is the nicest way of looking at it. What is your Labrador called? Prancer, what's yours called?
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Post by Deleted on Nov 24, 2017 20:05:34 GMT
I think the owners have missed a trick. The potential to turn the club into a championship team getting 12-16k attendances in a brand new ground would have made sense of their investment with the value of the club skyrocketing. Now were told to wait for some obscure future ground development and a made up date about the colony while we lose lots of money every year! It just dosnt add up does it?
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Post by paulpirate on Nov 24, 2017 21:02:18 GMT
I think the owners have missed a trick. The potential to turn the club into a championship team getting 12-16k attendances in a brand new ground would have made sense of their investment with the value of the club skyrocketing. Now were told to wait for some obscure future ground development and a made up date about the colony while we lose lots of money every year! It just dosnt add up does it? they are full of sh** and conned dc,players and fans
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Post by socrates on Nov 24, 2017 21:16:14 GMT
I think the owners have missed a trick. The potential to turn the club into a championship team getting 12-16k attendances in a brand new ground would have made sense of their investment with the value of the club skyrocketing. Now were told to wait for some obscure future ground development and a made up date about the colony while we lose lots of money every year! It just dosnt add up does it? Maybe they’ve missed a trick or maybe they weren’t prepared to give the UWE three times as much money as first agreed under Higgs ? This is what I was told by a fan I stand near who had spoken to Wael about it months ago , could be bullshit I don’t really care because I don’t care much for rumours but I think it’s as easy to say we dodged a bullet as we missed a trick because we don’t know the ins and outs of the deal Higgs had or the deal Wael / Hani / Hamer were trying to make. At the end of the day we’re supporters we keep on supporting or we do something else on Saturday afternoons. I’m still glad we’ve got a club to support because under the last lot I honestly thought wed be gone by now.
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Post by xplosivgas on Nov 24, 2017 21:17:30 GMT
As Hamer told us yesterday DS (Hani controlled) do not communicate publically so little chance of public assurances. A white knight is our best hope but I guess Hani would want the £12m loan repaid as part of any deal which would limit interest. White knights are rare and I don't think the club could servive another period of excile. Performance on the field is our best hope because is crowds drop then so will budgets and that well-known vicious circle of decline will bite. Know anyone with £50 million spare? I took those comments about Dwane Sports with a large pinch of salt. Steve was implying they are a huge corporation with a portfolio of international investments when we all know they are a brass plate company which was incorporated by the Al-Qadi family just prior to the Rovers acquisition and is based at a formation agents office in Jersey. There is no need to try to put up this fog of intrigue it only serves to lessen trust. Brass plate? I'd say more tin pot!
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Post by socrates on Nov 24, 2017 21:18:45 GMT
I think the owners have missed a trick. The potential to turn the club into a championship team getting 12-16k attendances in a brand new ground would have made sense of their investment with the value of the club skyrocketing. Now were told to wait for some obscure future ground development and a made up date about the colony while we lose lots of money every year! It just dosnt add up does it? they are full of sh** and conned dc,players and fans Weal never said we would definitely build the UWE and Hamer sounded very positive because it’s his job to be positive about such deals when they’re in the balance. He wasn’t going to say we’re still in talks but the situation is looking sh** was he.
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