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Gaffney
Nov 28, 2017 0:19:22 GMT
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Post by gaelgas on Nov 28, 2017 0:19:22 GMT
Maybe he's getting a bit peed off at not getting more game time so if that doesn't improve he might be looking somewhere where he will, even if that means dropping down a division.
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Post by Qatar Gas on Nov 28, 2017 4:41:04 GMT
I think Rory has unfortunately been a victim of the fact that Ellis has been so consistently strong this season meaning DC probably wants to repay his hard work and keep his confidence building. Also the fact that we spent 300k on Nichols who would otherwise make a very expensive bench warmer! I agree with this. Ellis is currently our best striker, with Rory second, however, after spending a lot of money (a lot for us) on one striker, its only natural that the manager would give him as many chances as possible. I do now wonder, however, that DC now knows he cannot afford to do this for much longer with the form and position we are in. The only thing that baffles me about Gafney (and I've said it many times on here) is that he drifts out wide far too often. He is the player you would have wanted at the end of that free header late in the game on Saturday. Again I don't know if he does this naturally or he is being told to do it?
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Post by tommym9 on Nov 28, 2017 7:40:50 GMT
I might be alone in this, but I don't think Gaffers is very good with his head.
Getting the ball down to his feet with his chest he's brilliant, but headers don't seem to be his strong suit.
Agree with him being out wide too much. Want to see him in the box on the end of balls rather than putting them in.
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Gaffney
Nov 28, 2017 7:43:07 GMT
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Post by socrates on Nov 28, 2017 7:43:07 GMT
I do think there is an element of dc thinking he spent well with tom nichols and giving him longer than you usually would to find his best form which has cost rory game time. I think ellis is easily our best forward at the moment and the player most opposing centre halves fear. I also think rory has been a fine player for us who makes lots of diagonal runs pulling opponents out of position,jj o"toole would like gaffney as he would move into the gaps created by rory and score goals imo. Yeah like Sercombe and Bodin do when Rory plays. Don’t get me wrong I think Ellis has improved this season but Rory gives the team so much more, goals being the most important thing but his movements better and he creates more too. Ellis wins more headers but Gafney uses his chest well.
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Post by peterhooper57 on Nov 28, 2017 7:51:26 GMT
IMO Ellis is currently our best option up front. Gafney needs service from the width which he just is not going to get. DC, probably took guidance from Marcus Stewart before signing Tom Nichols, unfortunately to date it has not worked out for either player or BRFC, which = not enough goals. Definitely need a shake up in January.
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Post by socrates on Nov 28, 2017 8:21:09 GMT
IMO Ellis is currently our best option up front. Gafney needs service from the width which he just is not going to get. DC, probably took guidance from Marcus Stewart before signing Tom Nichols, unfortunately to date it has not worked out for either player or BRFC, which = not enough goals. Definitely need a shake up in January. We’re up there with the top 6 in terms of goals scored so I really can’t see where your not getting enough goals from. In that top six we’ve scored more than Shrewsbury Scunthorpe and the same as charlton. Looking st the stats chris lines and Lee brown are leading the assists table once again. Those two have definitely created more goals for us than any other Rovers player over the last 3 and a half years they’re always our top 2.
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Post by WeAreTheGas on Nov 28, 2017 8:26:22 GMT
I might be alone in this, but I don't think Gaffers is very good with his head. Getting the ball down to his feet with his chest he's brilliant, but headers don't seem to be his strong suit. Agree with him being out wide too much. Want to see him in the box on the end of balls rather than putting them in. He's not good with his head at all IMO. I'm sure he must have done at some point, but I don't recall him ever scoring a goal with his head for us? Like him a lot as a player though and with Nichols in the form he's in, Gaffney would offer us far more atm.
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Post by Qatar Gas on Nov 28, 2017 9:07:47 GMT
I might be alone in this, but I don't think Gaffers is very good with his head. Getting the ball down to his feet with his chest he's brilliant, but headers don't seem to be his strong suit. Agree with him being out wide too much. Want to see him in the box on the end of balls rather than putting them in. For a big lad he is also quite skillful with the ball at his feet. I've only noticed that this season from being able to watch the games!
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Post by peterhooper57 on Nov 28, 2017 11:18:28 GMT
IMO Ellis is currently our best option up front. Gafney needs service from the width which he just is not going to get. DC, probably took guidance from Marcus Stewart before signing Tom Nichols, unfortunately to date it has not worked out for either player or BRFC, which = not enough goals. Definitely need a shake up in January. We’re up there with the top 6 in terms of goals scored so I really can’t see where your not getting enough goals from. In that top six we’ve scored more than Shrewsbury Scunthorpe and the same as charlton. Looking st the stats chris lines and Lee brown are leading the assists table once again. Those two have definitely created more goals for us than any other Rovers player over the last 3 and a half years they’re always our top 2. Hmm, interesting, unfortunately your logic falls over as we currently need to score more goals than either the Shrews, Scunny and the atics to even get a point / draw; So keep Gafney get rid of Lockyer and Sweeney, not sure DC will drop Tom.
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Post by socrates on Nov 28, 2017 13:07:36 GMT
We’re up there with the top 6 in terms of goals scored so I really can’t see where your not getting enough goals from. In that top six we’ve scored more than Shrewsbury Scunthorpe and the same as charlton. Looking st the stats chris lines and Lee brown are leading the assists table once again. Those two have definitely created more goals for us than any other Rovers player over the last 3 and a half years they’re always our top 2. Hmm, interesting, unfortunately your logic falls over as we currently need to score more goals than either the Shrews, Scunny and the atics to even get a point / draw; So keep Gafney get rid of Lockyer and Sweeney, not sure DC will drop Tom. What I’m trying to say on this and the “are our strikers good enough “ thread is If we’re aiming to score 3 or 4 Goals just to get a point then that’s not because our strikers aren’t good enough it’s bevsuse we’re not defending well enough. Bodin Ellis and Rory have got 22 between them this season , the rate they’re going if we can tighten up at the back then we should have more than enough goals in us to finish mid table.
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Post by Topper Gas on Nov 28, 2017 13:20:14 GMT
Hmm, interesting, unfortunately your logic falls over as we currently need to score more goals than either the Shrews, Scunny and the atics to even get a point / draw; So keep Gafney get rid of Lockyer and Sweeney, not sure DC will drop Tom. What I’m trying to say on this and the “are our strikers good enough “ thread is If we’re aiming to score 3 or 4 Goals just to get a point then that’s not because our strikers aren’t good enough it’s bevsuse we’re not defending well enough. Bodin Ellis and Rory have got 22 between them this season , the rate they’re going if we can tighten up at the back then we should have more than enough goals in us to finish mid table. Looking at it another way is our attack at all costs approach leading to our strikers scoring more, but also conceding more? When we went totally defensive re Scunthorpe whilst we never looked like scoring we seemed tighter at the back.
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Post by peterparker on Nov 28, 2017 13:23:10 GMT
Rhys Kavanagh has scored 4 already today
edit 5
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Post by lastminutewinner on Nov 28, 2017 13:42:25 GMT
I do think there is an element of dc thinking he spent well with tom nichols and giving him longer than you usually would to find his best form which has cost rory game time. I think ellis is easily our best forward at the moment and the player most opposing centre halves fear. I also think rory has been a fine player for us who makes lots of diagonal runs pulling opponents out of position,jj o"toole would like gaffney as he would move into the gaps created by rory and score goals imo.
IMO DC continuing to flog a dead horse in Luke James last season cost us a play off spot. Seems the same is being done this season with Nichols, although now the defence is all over the place it could cost us a lot more this time.
In terms of forwards this would be my pecking order;
1) Billy Bodin 2) Rory Gaffney 3) Ellis Harrison 4) Me 5) Captain Gas 6) Tom Nichols
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Post by baggins on Nov 28, 2017 13:50:42 GMT
Gaffney needs to start, every game.
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Gaffney
Nov 28, 2017 13:51:40 GMT
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Post by baggins on Nov 28, 2017 13:51:40 GMT
I do think there is an element of dc thinking he spent well with tom nichols and giving him longer than you usually would to find his best form which has cost rory game time. I think ellis is easily our best forward at the moment and the player most opposing centre halves fear. I also think rory has been a fine player for us who makes lots of diagonal runs pulling opponents out of position,jj o"toole would like gaffney as he would move into the gaps created by rory and score goals imo.
IMO DC continuing to flog a dead horse in Luke James last season cost us a play off spot. Seems the same is being done this season with Nichols, although now the defence is all over the place it could cost us a lot more this time.
In terms of forwards this would be my pecking order;
1) Billy Bodin 2) Rory Gaffney 3) Ellis Harrison 4) Me 5) Captain Gas 6) Tom Nichols
Scooby needs to start on the wing.
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Post by Henbury Gas on Nov 28, 2017 14:01:54 GMT
Gaffney needs to start, every game. We need to get rid and bring the snake back.....
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Post by geddongas on Nov 28, 2017 14:27:32 GMT
I might be alone in this, but I don't think Gaffers is very good with his head. Getting the ball down to his feet with his chest he's brilliant, but headers don't seem to be his strong suit. Agree with him being out wide too much. Want to see him in the box on the end of balls rather than putting them in. I agree. Not brilliant on goal with his head, but picking the ball out of the air and getting it down on the ground he is useful. Lots of long balls over the top to Harrison and Nichols v Wimbledon and i just feel that was the wrong way to go about it with those two players up top. Lacking a Gaffers to pick up those balls and perhaps create chances for Ellis. But that's just my opinion...
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Post by socrates on Nov 28, 2017 14:34:32 GMT
What I’m trying to say on this and the “are our strikers good enough “ thread is If we’re aiming to score 3 or 4 Goals just to get a point then that’s not because our strikers aren’t good enough it’s bevsuse we’re not defending well enough. Bodin Ellis and Rory have got 22 between them this season , the rate they’re going if we can tighten up at the back then we should have more than enough goals in us to finish mid table. Looking at it another way is our attack at all costs approach leading to our strikers scoring more, but also conceding more? When we went totally defensive re Scunthorpe whilst we never looked like scoring we seemed tighter at the back. Yeah I agree i don’t think it’s looking at it another way though. We need to find a balance for sure. I think DC found it at Blackburn but everything went against us against a good side awY from home and that happens.
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Post by 2nd May 1990 on Nov 28, 2017 14:49:36 GMT
Stats-wise, Gaffers is having a cracking season:
6 goals and 4 assists in the league from 10 starts and 7 sub appearances. A goal every 144 mins and throw in 3 man of the match awards.
Ellis clearly is our player of the season so far though, in my opinion.
Are they too similar to play together regularly? DC clearly has his doubts as they have only both started together 6 times this season.
Our record in those games is: P6 W2 D0 L4 F8 A10 Pts6
We lost our last 3 that they started together without us scoring a single goal so you can see why DC wanted to change it for now. I'm not sure the alternative partnerships are any better though having Bodin back to full fitness will obviously help things.
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Post by socrates on Nov 28, 2017 18:35:03 GMT
I do think there is an element of dc thinking he spent well with tom nichols and giving him longer than you usually would to find his best form which has cost rory game time. I think ellis is easily our best forward at the moment and the player most opposing centre halves fear. I also think rory has been a fine player for us who makes lots of diagonal runs pulling opponents out of position,jj o"toole would like gaffney as he would move into the gaps created by rory and score goals imo.
IMO DC continuing to flog a dead horse in Luke James last season cost us a play off spot. Seems the same is being done this season with Nichols, although now the defence is all over the place it could cost us a lot more this time.
In terms of forwards this would be my pecking order;
1) Billy Bodin 2) Rory Gaffney 3) Ellis Harrison 4) Me 5) Captain Gas 6) Tom Nichols
I actually think 6 should be my gran ( she’s got two false hips and she’s 93) then 7 .Nichols.
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