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Post by kentgas on Jan 2, 2018 22:14:55 GMT
Roberts didn't kick a ball for Wolves. He scored 6 for Torquay on loan, and only scored 1 goal for City on loan. Both in the 3rd Division. Lambert wasn't Rochdale's top scorer, Grant Holt was. Taylor may have scored 7 in 8 for Chester but he'd never scored in the Football League. Nichols has, I just think it's wrong to write somebody off after 20 games, as the other players mentioned hardly pulled up any trees in their first 20 odd games for us either. It looks like I misread Wiki Roberts scored 6 goals in 14 games for Torquay, Lambo scored 22 goals in his last full season for Rochdale, if Holt scored more they must have had an hell of a season. Regardless for every Roberts & co there's a James & White. Holt scored 14 according to Wiki. Seem to remember Lambert was the divisions highest scorer in the season before we bought him.
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Post by paulpirate on Jan 2, 2018 22:17:24 GMT
Its all true, someone connected told me, can’t tell you their name or give you anything specific sorry. Say hi to Toni the Till for me That is very childish and does you no favours. G.I. passes on what he has been told in good faith if it doesn't come about it is hardly his fault. I was told several disturbing things by a staff member on monday but I will not pass it on and I am surprised that g.I bothers to do it after the childish insults he gats 🤔gasinciders bro?
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Post by madgas on Jan 2, 2018 22:42:52 GMT
Its all true, someone connected told me, can’t tell you their name or give you anything specific sorry. Say hi to Toni the Till for me That is very childish and does you no favours. G.I. passes on what he has been told in good faith if it doesn't come about it is hardly his fault. I was told several disturbing things by a staff member on monday but I will not pass it on and I am surprised that g.I bothers to do it after the childish insults he gats Gasincider is also a man/ woman who expressed his /her discontent at Bristol Rovers supporting the LGBT community. “Political correctness gone mad.” Confusing empathy to an attack on liberty.
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Post by Gastafari on Jan 2, 2018 22:43:04 GMT
It looks like I misread Wiki Roberts scored 6 goals in 14 games for Torquay, Lambo scored 22 goals in his last full season for Rochdale, if Holt scored more they must have had an hell of a season. Regardless for every Roberts & co there's a James & White. Holt scored 14 according to Wiki. Seem to remember Lambert was the divisions highest scorer in the season before we bought him. I stand corrected, Lambert scored 22 goals, Holt scored 14 the season before we bought him. Holts record for Rochdale was 42 goals in 83 games, Lamberts was 28 goals in 68 games. I've just been looking through both Lambert's and Tom Nichols career stats, before signing for us Lambert had played 230 games and scored 57 goals. Which works out roughly as a goal every 4.4 games. Tom Nichols record before signing for us was played 168 games and scored 50 goals which works out roughly as a goal every 3.6 games.
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Post by pirate on Jan 2, 2018 22:48:36 GMT
It looks like I misread Wiki Roberts scored 6 goals in 14 games for Torquay, Lambo scored 22 goals in his last full season for Rochdale, if Holt scored more they must have had an hell of a season. Regardless for every Roberts & co there's a James & White. Holt scored 14 according to Wiki. Seem to remember Lambert was the divisions highest scorer in the season before we bought him. Spot on. Topper was right, Lambo got 22 goals the previous season we bought him and also got an impressive 15 assists.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 2, 2018 22:53:03 GMT
Holt scored 14 according to Wiki. Seem to remember Lambert was the divisions highest scorer in the season before we bought him. I stand corrected, Lambert scored 22 goals, Holt scored 14 the season before we bought him. Holts record for Rochdale was 42 goals in 83 games, Lamberts was 28 goals in 68 games. I've just been looking through both Lambert's and Tom Nichols career stats, before signing for us Lambert had played 230 games and scored 57 goals. Which works out roughly as a goal every 4.4 games. Tom Nichols record before signing for us was played 168 games and scored 50 goals which works out roughly as a goal every 3.6 games. Lambo didn't play all those games as a striker though, pretty sure he played in midfield quite a bit.
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Post by pirate on Jan 2, 2018 22:53:04 GMT
Holt scored 14 according to Wiki. Seem to remember Lambert was the divisions highest scorer in the season before we bought him. I stand corrected, Lambert scored 22 goals, Holt scored 14 the season before we bought him. Holts record for Rochdale was 42 goals in 83 games, Lamberts was 28 goals in 68 games. I've just been looking through both Lambert's and Tom Nichols career stats, before signing for us Lambert had played 230 games and scored 57 goals. Which works out roughly as a goal every 4.4 games. Tom Nichols record before signing for us was played 168 games and scored 50 goals which works out roughly as a goal every 3.6 games. We shouldn't forget Lambert played in midfield and was converted into a striker at the age of 23 by Steve Parkin at Rochdale. Edit: meadgas beat me to it.
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Post by pudseygas on Jan 2, 2018 22:57:12 GMT
I stand corrected, Lambert scored 22 goals, Holt scored 14 the season before we bought him. Holts record for Rochdale was 42 goals in 83 games, Lamberts was 28 goals in 68 games. I've just been looking through both Lambert's and Tom Nichols career stats, before signing for us Lambert had played 230 games and scored 57 goals. Which works out roughly as a goal every 4.4 games. Tom Nichols record before signing for us was played 168 games and scored 50 goals which works out roughly as a goal every 3.6 games. We shouldn't forget Lambert played in midfield and was converted into a striker at the age of 23 by Steve Parkin at Rochdale. Edit: meadgas beat me to it. We alao shouldn't forget that lambo was absolute class whilst Nichols isnt
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Post by Gastafari on Jan 2, 2018 23:05:59 GMT
We shouldn't forget Lambert played in midfield and was converted into a striker at the age of 23 by Steve Parkin at Rochdale. Edit: meadgas beat me to it. We alao shouldn't forget that lambo was absolute class whilst Nichols isnt He wasn't for the first 20 odd games though, that's my point. Richard Walker was our main man, plus Stuart Nicholson was scoring more regularly than Lambert. It was only during the final month or so of the season and the Play Off games that Lambert hit top form.
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Post by lastminutewinner on Jan 2, 2018 23:40:09 GMT
We alao shouldn't forget that lambo was absolute class whilst Nichols isnt He wasn't for the first 20 odd games though, that's my point. Richard Walker was our main man, plus Stuart Nicholson was scoring more regularly than Lambert. It was only during the final month or so of the season and the Play Off games that Lambert hit top form. Its like groundhog day, fans were saying the same thing last season about Luke James and now he can hardly get in the first team for FGR. , which ironically will probably be where Nichols is playing next season
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Post by Deleted on Jan 2, 2018 23:41:14 GMT
Whatever we paid seems too much at present, even £50K would seem expensive, I just don't get what MS/DC saw in him, he had a full 90 mins yesterday but even when we were on top near the end he still never even looked like having a shot on goal let alone scoring. It'll be interesting to see if Telford stays (assuming he has a choice?) or tries to find another club where he'll be given some game time. Agreed. For the life of me I can't see how anyone says he will come good. Based on what exactly?? He will come good
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Post by Gastafari on Jan 2, 2018 23:48:55 GMT
He wasn't for the first 20 odd games though, that's my point. Richard Walker was our main man, plus Stuart Nicholson was scoring more regularly than Lambert. It was only during the final month or so of the season and the Play Off games that Lambert hit top form. Its like groundhog day, fans were saying the same thing last season about Luke James and now he can hardly get in the first team for FGR. , which ironically will probably be where Nichols is playing next season Indeed it is like Groundhog day. People were saying Jason Roberts was sh*t, people were saying Lambert was sh*t and what a waste of money, people were saying Matty Taylor was sh*t and was nowhere near good enough to score the goals to get us back in the League. The same things are being said about Nichols now. Whether Nichols will ever improve is another matter. Lets just not write somebody off after 20 odd games, its been proven by others in the Quarters that they can come good. I hope Nichols does too. Here's hoping, eh.
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Post by oldgas on Jan 3, 2018 5:11:26 GMT
There is little doubt that if 3 other clubs want 3 of our players they will eventually be sold during this window.
The club, DC etc will make a lot of noise about signing replacements, but nothing will happen because asking prices will betoo inflated, wage demands will be excessive.
Nothing will happen because there is no money.
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Post by oldgas on Jan 3, 2018 5:11:50 GMT
oops, double post.
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Post by Hugo the Elder on Jan 3, 2018 6:27:35 GMT
Its like groundhog day, fans were saying the same thing last season about Luke James and now he can hardly get in the first team for FGR. , which ironically will probably be where Nichols is playing next season Indeed it is like Groundhog day. People were saying Jason Roberts was sh*t, people were saying Lambert was sh*t and what a waste of money, people were saying Matty Taylor was sh*t and was nowhere near good enough to score the goals to get us back in the League. The same things are being said about Nichols now. Whether Nichols will ever improve is another matter. Lets just not write somebody off after 20 odd games, its been proven by others in the Quarters that they can come good. I hope Nichols does too. Here's hoping, eh. I'm writing him off because of what I've seen from him. He is nowhere near Taylor, Roberts, Lambert etc who were all unfairly criticized for their slow starts. Taylor in particular (who is the most similar style of player) was streets ahead of Nichols in terms of quality and link up play. It's laughable that anyone can even compare him to some of the players mentioned on this thread.
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Post by Gastafari on Jan 3, 2018 6:46:34 GMT
Indeed it is like Groundhog day. People were saying Jason Roberts was sh*t, people were saying Lambert was sh*t and what a waste of money, people were saying Matty Taylor was sh*t and was nowhere near good enough to score the goals to get us back in the League. The same things are being said about Nichols now. Whether Nichols will ever improve is another matter. Lets just not write somebody off after 20 odd games, its been proven by others in the Quarters that they can come good. I hope Nichols does too. Here's hoping, eh. I'm writing him off because of what I've seen from him. He is nowhere near Taylor, Roberts, Lambert etc who were all unfairly criticized for their slow starts. Taylor in particular (who is the most similar style of player) was streets ahead of Nichols in terms of quality and link up play. It's laughable that anyone can even compare him to some of the players mentioned on this thread. Taylor had never kicked a ball in League Football and was playing against part timers. It took him a while to get going. Nichols is playing 2 leagues higher currently in a struggling team. I think we should cut him some slack.
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Post by Hugo the Elder on Jan 3, 2018 6:57:22 GMT
I'm writing him off because of what I've seen from him. He is nowhere near Taylor, Roberts, Lambert etc who were all unfairly criticized for their slow starts. Taylor in particular (who is the most similar style of player) was streets ahead of Nichols in terms of quality and link up play. It's laughable that anyone can even compare him to some of the players mentioned on this thread. Taylor had never kicked a ball in League Football and was playing against part timers. It took him a while to get going. Nichols is playing 2 leagues higher currently in a struggling team. I think we should cut him some slack. Yeah, that's a fair point about the opposition Taylor was facing early on.
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Post by Gas Go Marching In on Jan 3, 2018 6:59:11 GMT
Nichols needs to show more bottle and fight, especall when things aren't going for him. That way he will win the fans over.
Technically Nichols is very good and he has a decent football brain at times. He has underpreformed massively. I would like to see us bring the ball down more though like vs Pompey as I believe we will see much better from him if we do that. Whether that will be enough we'll find out. He's not a lost cause by any stretch, I just get frustrated by how much game time he has been given as he doesn't impact games enough.
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Post by pirate on Jan 3, 2018 9:38:08 GMT
I see Southend have rejected a £700,000 bid for midfielder Ryan Leonard, who is out of contract in the summer.
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Post by paulpirate on Jan 3, 2018 9:51:32 GMT
I see Southend have rejected a £700,000 bid for midfielder Ryan Leonard, who is out of contract in the summer. there we go,bb worth a mil then
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