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Post by Antonio Fargas on Jan 4, 2018 12:38:02 GMT
You're allowed to make whatever comments you like, of course you are. The thing is, though, the people you have been supporting and agreeing with (not sure you have made the same comments, to be fair) have been justifying their comments by saying stuff like it is important for the survival of the club to get these facts aired. But what usually happens, is that we don't get facts, we get half arsed rumours from the corridors of power. The point Hugo was making, istm, is that if you do know proper facts from the corridors of power, and if you do think they are important to the survival of the club, which is what is often implied, then you should make everything you know available to everyone, if that will help the club. Your 'head in the sand' comment seemed to be along similar lines; it seemed to be suggesting that you know a proper truth and that Hugo is ignorant of it. Obviously, if you're just stating an opinion not based on anything at all, and there's nothing to back it up, fair enough. You're just talking out your arse on a forum, fair enough, too, we all do it. But really it's best not to confuse that with the 'we are saving the club' vibe we get from some of the ITKers. Those same posters you have been backing. I mean, the burying his head in the sand accusation you made makes it seem like you had a bit more knowledge backing you up than just 'a comment pure and simple on how you think things will pan out.' If that is the case, if it's not based on rumour or ITK and it's just as opinion what is wrong with just disagreeing with you? How is that burying your head in the sand? As I have said previously I do know quite a lot of what is or isn't going on in the club but that is for me to know and I have no intention whatsoever of putting it in the public domain. What is told to me in confidence goes no further Sure, but the thing is, claiming to know what is going on, and then making half-arsed accusations (like implying Hamer was lying) and then refusing to back it up doesn't look good. And then doing all that and saying you're not discussing things in public looks even worse. And doing that and accusing other people of having heir head in the sand, even though you won't give them the full information, is even worse. Either say what you know or shut up. Don't not say what you know, say something and then offer no evidence and then say you aren't saying anything. And then saying something. And then accusing people of being wilfully ignorant. You're all over the place. A big old mess. Honestly, if you have a confidentiality, don't say anything. It's really simple. Just don't say anything. If you're gonna say something, you can't justify it by saying you're not saying anything.
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Post by Hugo the Elder on Jan 4, 2018 12:42:30 GMT
Then don't call me out for having my head in the sand. Head in the sand is one thing but respecting a confidentiality is completely different but carry on trying to justify an unwarranted attack on me I attacked your post. A post that by your own admission you are now unwilling or unable to back up. Cheers.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 4, 2018 12:42:49 GMT
As I have said previously I do know quite a lot of what is or isn't going on in the club but that is for me to know and I have no intention whatsoever of putting it in the public domain. What is told to me in confidence goes no further Sure, but the thing is, claiming to know what is going on, and then making half-arsed accusations (like implying Hamer was lying) and then refusing to back it p doesn't look good. And then doing all that and saying you're not discussing things in public looks even worse. And doing that and accusing other people of having heir head in the sand, even though you won't give them the full information, is even worse. Either say what you know or shut up. Don't not say what you know, say something and then offer no evidence and then say you aren't saying anything. and then saying something. And then accusing people of being wilfully ignorant. You're all over the place. A big old mess. Honestly, if you have a confidentiality, don't say anything. It's really simple. Just don't say anything. If you're gonna say something, you can't justify it by saying you're not saying anything. There was a very wise man once who said ...if you are in a hole put the shovel down . He also said...if you can't provide a sensible response confuse the issue Your serve
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Post by Deleted on Jan 4, 2018 12:44:10 GMT
Head in the sand is one thing but respecting a confidentiality is completely different but carry on trying to justify an unwarranted attack on me I attacked your post. A post that by your own admission you are now unwilling or unable to back up. Cheers. That it was an opinion on whether dc will get the bodin cash? Didn't realise you need proof to back up an opinion
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Post by Antonio Fargas on Jan 4, 2018 12:45:38 GMT
Sure, but the thing is, claiming to know what is going on, and then making half-arsed accusations (like implying Hamer was lying) and then refusing to back it p doesn't look good. And then doing all that and saying you're not discussing things in public looks even worse. And doing that and accusing other people of having heir head in the sand, even though you won't give them the full information, is even worse. Either say what you know or shut up. Don't not say what you know, say something and then offer no evidence and then say you aren't saying anything. and then saying something. And then accusing people of being wilfully ignorant. You're all over the place. A big old mess. Honestly, if you have a confidentiality, don't say anything. It's really simple. Just don't say anything. If you're gonna say something, you can't justify it by saying you're not saying anything. There was a very wise man once who said ...if you are in a hole put the shovel down . He also said...if you can't provide a sensible response confuse the issue Your serve Now who's got their head in the sand?
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Post by Deleted on Jan 4, 2018 12:59:09 GMT
Communication from the club is crap! No wonder we speculate so much. I’ve never in my years felt closer to throwing it all in. Just a passionate disappointed chap that feels he’s had it up to here ☝🏻
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Post by RD on Jan 4, 2018 13:05:46 GMT
Sure, but the thing is, claiming to know what is going on, and then making half-arsed accusations (like implying Hamer was lying) and then refusing to back it p doesn't look good. And then doing all that and saying you're not discussing things in public looks even worse. And doing that and accusing other people of having heir head in the sand, even though you won't give them the full information, is even worse. Either say what you know or shut up. Don't not say what you know, say something and then offer no evidence and then say you aren't saying anything. and then saying something. And then accusing people of being wilfully ignorant. You're all over the place. A big old mess. Honestly, if you have a confidentiality, don't say anything. It's really simple. Just don't say anything. If you're gonna say something, you can't justify it by saying you're not saying anything. There was a very wise man once who said ...if you are in a hole put the shovel down . He also said...if you can't provide a sensible response confuse the issue Your serve He also said; Why aren't you using your original account? Sh*t stirring pr*ck as usual.
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Post by Wembley_Gas on Jan 4, 2018 13:24:54 GMT
If true, then for me, that would be really worrying. We need a signing ASAP, and l don’t mean another consultancy Our next game isn't for another two weeks almost. DC will know that unless he signs two wingers in that time we have no choice but to start with Moore and Broom unless we play Bola and Leadbitter as wing backs. Seeing as Leadbitter only just picked up a hamstring injury I can't see that being an option so we will either be hopelessly one dimensional next game or we will have some new signings. Two of the development squad have been getting rave reviews out on loan and are both due back Mo Baghdadi and Lewis Leigh-Gilchrist. They can play wide and it might be worth one of them getting a shot at a first team place as, if moderately successful, it would a) show some quick return for setting up the second string and b) might spur on the likes of Kavanagh and Kelly to bridge the gap from potential first teamer to actual squad player.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 4, 2018 13:27:04 GMT
There was a very wise man once who said ...if you are in a hole put the shovel down . He also said...if you can't provide a sensible response confuse the issue Your serve He also said; Why aren't you using your original account? Sh*t stirring pr*ck as usual. It was compromised anyway f..k off
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Post by Antonio Fargas on Jan 4, 2018 13:32:50 GMT
I'm reluctant to comment on a thread I've been heavily involved in, but let's just try to be a tiny bit nicer please, everyone, thank you.
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Post by Hugo the Elder on Jan 4, 2018 13:33:35 GMT
And on that bombshell.....
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Post by Hugo the Elder on Jan 4, 2018 13:34:26 GMT
I'm reluctant to comment on a thread I've been heavily involved in, but let's just try to be a tiny bit nicer please, everyone, thank you. Apologies, didn't see your post AF. Thread unlocked. Heh heh.
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Post by RD on Jan 4, 2018 13:35:00 GMT
He also said; Why aren't you using your original account? Sh*t stirring pr*ck as usual. It was compromised anyway f..k off Compromised because you were using it! Anyway, Happy New Year And welcome back
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Post by CheshireGas on Jan 4, 2018 13:36:40 GMT
As I have said previously I do know quite a lot of what is or isn't going on in the club but that is for me to know and I have no intention whatsoever of putting it in the public domain. What is told to me in confidence goes no further In business I have found that most people who know something confidential don't shout out to the world that they do. They keep it quiet otherwise it sounds like a child saying "I know something you don't know, na na na na na...." If I was in a company and saw an employee or director doing that I would make sure I didn't tell them anything. In my experience people like that usually end up breaking a confidence one way or another because they can't help themselves.
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Post by pucklegas on Jan 4, 2018 14:07:34 GMT
As I have said previously I do know quite a lot of what is or isn't going on in the club but that is for me to know and I have no intention whatsoever of putting it in the public domain. What is told to me in confidence goes no further In business I have found that most people who know something confidential don't shout out to the world that they do. They keep it quiet otherwise it sounds like a child saying "I know something you don't know, na na na na na...." If I was in a company and saw an employee or director doing that I would make sure I didn't tell them anything. In my experience people like that usually end up breaking a confidence one way or another because they can't help themselves. You won’t get a response the bells rung and he’s back in skool!
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Post by Deleted on Jan 4, 2018 14:15:58 GMT
Communication from the club is crap! No wonder we speculate so much. I’ve never in my years felt closer to throwing it all in. Just a passionate disappointed chap that feels he’s had it up to here ☝🏻 I guess communication is crap in the current social media driven world where everyone thinks they deserve to know this ins and outs of everything. Going back 20 odd years we never used to get any info on anything behind the scenes.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 4, 2018 14:20:29 GMT
Communication from the club is crap! No wonder we speculate so much. I’ve never in my years felt closer to throwing it all in. Just a passionate disappointed chap that feels he’s had it up to here ☝🏻 I guess communication is crap in the current social media driven world where everyone thinks they deserve to know this ins and outs of everything. Going back 20 odd years we never used to get any info on anything behind the scenes. times change and rovers need to get with it! 20-30 years behind D.C. said.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 4, 2018 17:31:54 GMT
Odds on dc won't get a penny to spend the fee will go to lowering the predicted losses this season More unsubstantiated negative bollocks. I'm f**king sick of this place. I'm f**king sick of this place.
Order the Cod next time is my advice.
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Post by sipirate on Jan 4, 2018 17:46:04 GMT
And on that bombshell..... Thread Locked. You like being a tubby controller don’t you mr moderator 😂
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Post by Deleted on Jan 4, 2018 18:19:51 GMT
Sure, but the thing is, claiming to know what is going on, and then making half-arsed accusations (like implying Hamer was lying) and then refusing to back it p doesn't look good. And then doing all that and saying you're not discussing things in public looks even worse. And doing that and accusing other people of having heir head in the sand, even though you won't give them the full information, is even worse. Either say what you know or shut up. Don't not say what you know, say something and then offer no evidence and then say you aren't saying anything. and then saying something. And then accusing people of being wilfully ignorant. You're all over the place. A big old mess. Honestly, if you have a confidentiality, don't say anything. It's really simple. Just don't say anything. If you're gonna say something, you can't justify it by saying you're not saying anything. There was a very wise man once who said ...if you are in a hole put the shovel down . He also said...if you can't provide a sensible response confuse the issue Your serve Your the one digging the hole Irish People,that's clear for all to see.
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