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Post by Topper Gas on Feb 28, 2018 21:09:42 GMT
Scaremonger. Backtrack. Repeat. Problem is OP knows he'll look a bit of a plonker if he's got this figure wrong so it's probably more or less accurate and it also fits in with the total debts of £14m other posters have heard about, I doubt he'll need to backtrack this time.
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Post by South Stand Ultra on Feb 28, 2018 21:13:05 GMT
Mods. I assume you will be dishing out warnings to all those attacking the poster not the post. A lot of violating forum rules going on and nobody has yet disproved what Gasincider has stated. Who's attacked gasincider?
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Post by Hugo the Elder on Feb 28, 2018 21:16:35 GMT
Scaremonger. Backtrack. Repeat. Problem is OP knows he'll look a bit of a plonker if he's got this figure wrong so it's probably more or less accurate and it also fits in with the total debts of £14m other posters have heard about, I doubt he'll need to backtrack this time. Yeah, but the issue as already pointed out is a lack of context or explanation. It's just another clickbait hand grenade. It may be bad, it may be good, it may be...meh. Plenty of wriggle room for the OP to explain any and all outcomes if the 3Mil figure is accurate.
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Post by knowall on Feb 28, 2018 21:17:27 GMT
Three pages of comments within a couple of hours all based on speculation. I think I’ll leave this thread alone and just wait for the accounts to actually come out rather than making assumptions. The Accounts are out and gasincider has plucked a headline figure for maximum effect, Swissgas has put meat on the bone, but the accounts have to be studied in full for the correct picture. As usual with 'Rovers panic before sense. And remember the accounts show a picture as at eight months ago!
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Post by Big Jock on Feb 28, 2018 21:17:51 GMT
This 'evolution' thing is gonna cost a fortune if we wanna move forward. so the debts are bound ta get bigger an bigger. Ta be honest its WAQ's money/debt, its now bordering on th value of The Mem so if he's prepared ta keep bunging it in let him carry on.
Jes hope it takes us forward. 'Mon th Crazy Gang!
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Post by Hugo the Elder on Feb 28, 2018 21:19:29 GMT
Mods. I assume you will be dishing out warnings to all those attacking the poster not the post. A lot of violating forum rules going on and nobody has yet disproved what Gasincider has stated. An OP designed specifically to get a reaction gets a reaction.
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Post by swissgas on Feb 28, 2018 21:26:22 GMT
Mods. I assume you will be dishing out warnings to all those attacking the poster not the post. A lot of violating forum rules going on and nobody has yet disproved what Gasincider has stated. I was going to post something similar myself. If posters don't believe the figure posted by Gasincider and Severncider then explain why. If posters believe the figure but are comfortable with it then explain why. It is very hard to justify how annual operating losses could have increased from £865K to £3 million in two years but it can be done. In a normal business scenario you would call it turnaround costs and be able to point to things like redundancy payments, refitting of premises, installation of new equipment, a marketing campaign, R & D, bringing in new skilled staff or other things which increase expenditure in the short term but will, in time, reduce losses and eventually yield profits. To a certain extent these things are happening at Rovers and it would be interesting to hear fans thoughts on how effective the changes are likely to be and whether the extra £2 million or so per annum is being spent wisely.
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Post by inee on Feb 28, 2018 21:26:34 GMT
Corridors of power insider information? Go on then, what's happening on the stadium front? the gates were been painted, the pitch is going to be a closed season sand pit or did you mean something else
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Post by pucklegas on Feb 28, 2018 21:27:23 GMT
More like 200, new beginning chapter 7, we re doomed capn Mainwaring
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Post by inee on Feb 28, 2018 21:29:01 GMT
In the last financial year we lost £3,052,454 as opposed to £3,204,433 the previous year, so we are going in the right direction. Well roger me with a wet perch called David, makes you realise just how scandalous our fans are waiting for £1 pasties
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Post by hawkgas on Feb 28, 2018 21:34:20 GMT
The figure is £3,052,454 (2016 £3,204,403) from the Chairmans statement in the Financial Statement. Looks like gasincider was not far of the mark, certainly wasn’t exagerating
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Post by pucklegas on Feb 28, 2018 21:34:39 GMT
Mods. I assume you will be dishing out warnings to all those attacking the poster not the post. A lot of violating forum rules going on and nobody has yet disproved what Gasincider has stated. An OP designed specifically to get a reaction gets a reaction. Not so long ago someone else was called in to pay the players! Father Xmas I suppose, “that’s what I heard” “so I understand” now the cryptic few words rant over!
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Post by sallycinnamon on Feb 28, 2018 21:37:56 GMT
Losses through the roof? Wolves fan at Scarborough about 1988 I believe
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Post by Officer Barbrady on Feb 28, 2018 21:39:05 GMT
Don’t expect any more responses from the OP until someone who actually has information shares it so he can jump on the back of that. I find it hard to take it seriously anymore especially after last time where he was categorically proven wrong. Don’t feed the troll.
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Post by orgasmic on Feb 28, 2018 21:39:24 GMT
Mods. I assume you will be dishing out warnings to all those attacking the poster not the post. A lot of violating forum rules going on and nobody has yet disproved what Gasincider has stated. Who's attacked gasincider? A few simply mock if he got his information from the cop, 💩, bitter Gashead eTC. Yet the accounts are out and the figure seems accurate. Whatever your thoughts on his posting style or history these sort of comments are comments on gasincider not the losses posted about. A breach of forum rules if I’m correct yet mods are joining in.
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Post by Topper Gas on Feb 28, 2018 21:39:36 GMT
Perhaps if someone actually posted some real information we could all have a proper debate, but the OP has just posted a headline grabbing figure That is true and we really need to see the accounts for a full picture but it does seem to roughly add up if Steve Hamer was referring to the time of the 2017 financial year end when he quoted a figure of £12 million that had been invested by Dwane Sports. Amount outstanding on the loan facility at 30.06.16 £7.2 million Amount loaned to Dwane Colony Ltd for land purchase £1.1 million Amount repaid to Nick Higgs and Barry Bradshaw £0.9 million Amount injected to cover 2016/17 operating losses £3.0 million Total £12.2 million And if the operating losses have continued at that rate the loan will be over £14 million now. So we've gone through the best part of £7m in around 18 months and all we've got extra to show for it is a piece of shrub land next to a motorway junction and Tom Nichols!
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Post by Deleted on Feb 28, 2018 21:43:19 GMT
Three pages of comments within a couple of hours all based on speculation. I think I’ll leave this thread alone and just wait for the accounts to actually come out rather than making assumptions. The Accounts are out and gasincider has plucked a headline figure for maximum effect, Swissgas has put meat on the bone, but the accounts have to be studied in full for the correct picture. As usual with 'Rovers panic before sense. And remember the accounts show a picture as at eight months ago!Yeah with all those revenues streams of ours the picture is bound to look a lot better by now.
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Post by Officer Barbrady on Feb 28, 2018 21:43:40 GMT
Who's attacked gasincider? A few simply mock if he got his information from the cop, 💩, bitter Gashead eTC. Yet the accounts are out and the figure seems accurate. Whatever your thoughts on his posting style or history these sort of comments are comments on gasincider not the losses posted about. A breach of forum rules if I’m correct yet mods are joining in. He may be an extremely credible and upfront person. However his posts lack credibility, are often unfounded or untrue and are there to invoke an inflammatory response. The poster of course is a gentlemen of outstanding moral calibre. His posts are ridiculous. He is not ridiculous. He is a scholar.
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Post by orgasmic on Feb 28, 2018 21:47:44 GMT
A few simply mock if he got his information from the cop, 💩, bitter Gashead eTC. Yet the accounts are out and the figure seems accurate. Whatever your thoughts on his posting style or history these sort of comments are comments on gasincider not the losses posted about. A breach of forum rules if I’m correct yet mods are joining in. He may be an extremely credible and upfront person. However his posts lack credibility, are often unfounded or untrue and are there to invoke an inflammatory response. The poster of course is a gentlemen of outstanding moral calibre. His posts are ridiculous. He is not ridiculous. He is a scholar. The figure quoted seems to be accurate. Why would that lack credibility? As I said attack the post not the poster. Rules are rules after all.
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Post by Officer Barbrady on Feb 28, 2018 21:51:46 GMT
He may be an extremely credible and upfront person. However his posts lack credibility, are often unfounded or untrue and are there to invoke an inflammatory response. The poster of course is a gentlemen of outstanding moral calibre. His posts are ridiculous. He is not ridiculous. He is a scholar. The figure quoted seems to be accurate. Why would that lack credibility? As I said attack the post not the poster. Rules are rules after all. his previous posts have shown a lack of credibility and good intention albeit I do concede this figure may be accurate in this instance. The motive though is always a concern. Oh how I wish his posts reflected his well-meaning character.
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