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Post by markczgas on Mar 28, 2018 14:31:44 GMT
Hello Gasheads, I thought this idea deserved a thread of its own. That is to support the club and raise finances in order that we can help build and develop a training ground for the 21st century as per the original plans for a Category 2 training facility the club announced on purchasing the land, which was to house pitches and other facilities for The First Team, Development Squad and The Academy Set Up.Please read this link below which Norwich City supporters and investors ( only 700 of them were able to achieve this) have recently managed to do to help their beloved club prosper : www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/43555702I am writing to you to ask you to come on board this initial plan, by agreeing to sign a letter (which I have already prepared and wish soon to send to Steve Hamer) in support and later to pledge a large amount of money - 500 pounds (or an agreed similar amount decided with the club that may well differ a little after calculations have been made to raise the desired funds). The latest news, if you remember, was that the club announced that they were going to scale back massively the development of The Colony (and not as described above) and could only guarantee training facilities for the first team (the earliest date being Summer 2019). The current situation is that planning permission proposals would be sent off by the club for acceptance in around 7 to 8 weeks. I'm sure you all agree that progress has been painfully slow on this matter and that the news that the latest application from the club indicates that they are not going to pursue building something which could enable the club to achieve Category 2 status. So we can probably assume that the club is lacking the financial resources to do so. Therefore, WE could possibly help to generate the funds by being part of my/our initiative which would enable our beloved club to have the first rate training facilities this club so badly needs and deserves. If you are interested in backing the initiative and like me feel you could pledge around 500 quid to raise funds if the club wishes to support a similar scheme to Norwich City's please PM me and supply your full name ( First and surname), so I can add it to the end of the letter. I intend to send it off to the club in the next week or two. Thanks Mark Czekalski (a supporter since 1973) p.s. This is a POSITIVE initiative to help our club ! We may be rebuffed ( I don't really know why) with this initiative, but it MAY lead to something exciting and rewarding for the benefit of everyone who supports Bristol Rovers Supporters Club. Nothing lose as they say but potentially a lot to gain. p.p.s. I'm looking for support not loads of different suggestions or criticism at this stage Cheers Gasheads !!
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Post by Deleted on Mar 28, 2018 14:38:00 GMT
Interesting idea. I think its the long term running cost finances that have scaled back the Colony plans (short term).
So if the club need the cash boost then im all for it . All very well building a £20million world beating base ,but if it cost £2million a year to run where does that come from. Therefore there needs to be a long term annual donation from fans to run the place.
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Post by yattongas on Mar 28, 2018 14:39:28 GMT
give me a shout when you organise something for a new stadium fund raiser and I’ll happily chip in..... only out of desperation so I get to sit in it in my lifetime.
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Post by countygroundhotel on Mar 28, 2018 15:25:32 GMT
Admirable idea but reading the link Norwich have detailed the returns that investors will receive. So the club would need to kick something like this off and with no plans to develop a new stadium I couldn't see anyway that they could pay a return to investors. As the land appears to be owned by Dwane Sports and not the club then I certainly wouldn't be giving money to them to develop an asset for themselves.
Still good luck with this but I'd suggest a snappy title for it, um perhaps the Sharescheme.
PS appreciate this isn't the response you want but it is a very truthful response
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Post by Deleted on Mar 28, 2018 18:33:28 GMT
We are always being told what savvy business people we have running the club so the idea of fans paying to build a training complex (whilst the savvy business people are 250k+ a year to rent an office in london!) is pretty laughable.
Let's wait and see what the Al Qadi's propose to build, after all they are so clever and worth billions of pounds so securing funding for an all singing all dancing facility should be child's play.
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Post by Topper Gas on Mar 28, 2018 18:55:26 GMT
Somebody has already approached SH directly from the other forum offering to arrange finance from the fans and been rebuffed So I have had a very interesting exchange of mails with Steve Hamer in last 24 hours. I thank him for his responsiveness on matters of concern. The headlines are: There is no cap on finance from Dwayne Sports, as reported. There will be no financial Armageddon in March 2018 The training ground will be built as already indicated There is optimism about improving facilities especially as there is a recognised need Dwayne Sports are NOT looking for outside investment from supporters groups, although it has been mentioned and quickly discarded by themDwayne Sports will invest when there is a business case presented but will continue to run a tight ship Dwayne Sports are bewildered by the amount of interest in their commercial matters - a cultural divide between Jordanian financiers and UK football supporters So there you go. This is consistent with what has been said already. Whatever you think, I suggest that you write to Steve if you feel strongly Read more: gasheads.org/user/557/recent?page=2#ixzz5B4TxvC4zgasheads.org/post/160846
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Post by Hugo the Elder on Mar 28, 2018 19:36:44 GMT
Somebody has already approached SH directly from the other forum offering to arrange finance from the fans and been rebuffed So I have had a very interesting exchange of mails with Steve Hamer in last 24 hours. I thank him for his responsiveness on matters of concern. The headlines are: There is no cap on finance from Dwayne Sports, as reported. There will be no financial Armageddon in March 2018 The training ground will be built as already indicated There is optimism about improving facilities especially as there is a recognised need Dwayne Sports are NOT looking for outside investment from supporters groups, although it has been mentioned and quickly discarded by themDwayne Sports will invest when there is a business case presented but will continue to run a tight ship Dwayne Sports are bewildered by the amount of interest in their commercial matters - a cultural divide between Jordanian financiers and UK football supporters So there you go. This is consistent with what has been said already. Whatever you think, I suggest that you write to Steve if you feel strongly Read more: gasheads.org/user/557/recent?page=2#ixzz5B4TxvC4zgasheads.org/post/160846Won't be enough for some posters who wish to believe the worse.
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Post by xplosivgas on Mar 28, 2018 20:01:16 GMT
It's a shame that the evolution process appears to be running so painfully slow that fans feel the only option is a whip-around.
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Post by dexygas on Mar 28, 2018 20:50:49 GMT
give me a shout when you organise something for a new stadium fund raiser and I’ll happily chip in..... only out of desperation so I get to sit in it in my lifetime. me to.
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Post by gashead1981 on Mar 28, 2018 21:15:37 GMT
Somebody has already approached SH directly from the other forum offering to arrange finance from the fans and been rebuffed So I have had a very interesting exchange of mails with Steve Hamer in last 24 hours. I thank him for his responsiveness on matters of concern. The headlines are: There is no cap on finance from Dwayne Sports, as reported. There will be no financial Armageddon in March 2018 The training ground will be built as already indicated There is optimism about improving facilities especially as there is a recognised need Dwayne Sports are NOT looking for outside investment from supporters groups, although it has been mentioned and quickly discarded by themDwayne Sports will invest when there is a business case presented but will continue to run a tight ship Dwayne Sports are bewildered by the amount of interest in their commercial matters - a cultural divide between Jordanian financiers and UK football supporters So there you go. This is consistent with what has been said already. Whatever you think, I suggest that you write to Steve if you feel strongly Read more: gasheads.org/user/557/recent?page=2#ixzz5B4TxvC4zgasheads.org/post/160846Won't be enough for some posters who wish to believe the worse. I don’t think some want to believe the worst, it’s just that until recently there have been inconsistent messages and other problems, so say rumours, which if so, were never denied by the board. The time aspect for me, especially for the stadium is concerning. Also the distancing of the board from “commercial interests” when we are a small club which is supported and sponsored by local people. Our local vested interest is higher than the multi national conglomerate premier league teams supported by global industries and brands. ALQs need to recognise, embrace and also respect that.
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Post by Severncider on Mar 29, 2018 3:21:08 GMT
Somebody has already approached SH directly from the other forum offering to arrange finance from the fans and been rebuffed So I have had a very interesting exchange of mails with Steve Hamer in last 24 hours. I thank him for his responsiveness on matters of concern. The headlines are: There is no cap on finance from Dwayne Sports, as reported. There will be no financial Armageddon in March 2018 The training ground will be built as already indicated There is optimism about improving facilities especially as there is a recognised need Dwayne Sports are NOT looking for outside investment from supporters groups, although it has been mentioned and quickly discarded by themDwayne Sports will invest when there is a business case presented but will continue to run a tight ship Dwayne Sports are bewildered by the amount of interest in their commercial matters - a cultural divide between Jordanian financiers and UK football supporters So there you go. This is consistent with what has been said already. Whatever you think, I suggest that you write to Steve if you feel strongly Read more: gasheads.org/user/557/recent?page=2#ixzz5B4TxvC4zgasheads.org/post/160846"Dwayne Sports are NOT looking for outside investment from supporters groups, although it has been mentioned and quickly discarded by them" This is one reason why I am reconsidering my "investment" in Helpline. Others who have contacted me are also considering their investment in Helpline and/or the Share Scheme.
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Post by Henbury Gas on Mar 29, 2018 5:39:18 GMT
Somebody has already approached SH directly from the other forum offering to arrange finance from the fans and been rebuffed So I have had a very interesting exchange of mails with Steve Hamer in last 24 hours. I thank him for his responsiveness on matters of concern. The headlines are: There is no cap on finance from Dwayne Sports, as reported. There will be no financial Armageddon in March 2018 The training ground will be built as already indicated There is optimism about improving facilities especially as there is a recognised need Dwayne Sports are NOT looking for outside investment from supporters groups, although it has been mentioned and quickly discarded by themDwayne Sports will invest when there is a business case presented but will continue to run a tight ship Dwayne Sports are bewildered by the amount of interest in their commercial matters - a cultural divide between Jordanian financiers and UK football supporters So there you go. This is consistent with what has been said already. Whatever you think, I suggest that you write to Steve if you feel strongly Read more: gasheads.org/user/557/recent?page=2#ixzz5B4TxvC4zgasheads.org/post/160846Won't be enough for some posters who wish to believe the worse. Would be interesting to see what Midland has to say about this post
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Post by peterparker on Mar 29, 2018 5:45:49 GMT
Somebody has already approached SH directly from the other forum offering to arrange finance from the fans and been rebuffed So I have had a very interesting exchange of mails with Steve Hamer in last 24 hours. I thank him for his responsiveness on matters of concern. The headlines are: There is no cap on finance from Dwayne Sports, as reported. There will be no financial Armageddon in March 2018 The training ground will be built as already indicated There is optimism about improving facilities especially as there is a recognised need Dwayne Sports are NOT looking for outside investment from supporters groups, although it has been mentioned and quickly discarded by themDwayne Sports will invest when there is a business case presented but will continue to run a tight ship Dwayne Sports are bewildered by the amount of interest in their commercial matters - a cultural divide between Jordanian financiers and UK football supporters So there you go. This is consistent with what has been said already. Whatever you think, I suggest that you write to Steve if you feel strongly Read more: gasheads.org/user/557/recent?page=2#ixzz5B4TxvC4zgasheads.org/post/160846"Dwayne Sports are NOT looking for outside investment from supporters groups, although it has been mentioned and quickly discarded by them" This is one reason why I am reconsidering my "investment" in Helpline. Others who have contacted me are also considering their investment in Helpline and/or the Share Scheme. Obviously the share scheme has a legal agreement, however Helpline, the SC, FFSC etc are not obliged to hand over money to the club. These organisations can carry on, collect money and keep it. Maybe there will be a rainy day one day and the club will need it, or maybe it can be used in some other way
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Post by Hugo the Elder on Mar 29, 2018 6:13:13 GMT
"Dwayne Sports are NOT looking for outside investment from supporters groups, although it has been mentioned and quickly discarded by them" This is one reason why I am reconsidering my "investment" in Helpline. Others who have contacted me are also considering their investment in Helpline and/or the Share Scheme. Obviously the share scheme has a legal agreement, however Helpline, the SC, FFSC etc are not obliged to hand over money to the club. These organisations can carry on, collect money and keep it. Maybe there will be a rainy day one day and the club will need it, or maybe it can be used in some other way I may be jumping the gun but I'm pretty sure that the FFSC is and will always remain non political. It raises money to sponsor the young kids and fringe players in and around the first team squad. This is done to show the fringe players support boost confidence as much as it is to raise cash. Until such time that the club no longer want players to be sponsored, we get priced out of the market or people stop contributing to the FFSC it will carry on.
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Post by pucklegas on Mar 29, 2018 6:13:20 GMT
Can we put together to buy Luke James, oh f#### it I’ll cover it £100 sent to D.C. via play your pal
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Post by peterparker on Mar 29, 2018 6:27:16 GMT
Obviously the share scheme has a legal agreement, however Helpline, the SC, FFSC etc are not obliged to hand over money to the club. These organisations can carry on, collect money and keep it. Maybe there will be a rainy day one day and the club will need it, or maybe it can be used in some other way I may be jumping the gun but I'm pretty sure that the FFSC is and will always remain non political. It raises money to sponsor the young kids and fringe players in and around the first team squad. This is done to show the fringe players support boost confidence as much as it is to raise cash. Until such time that the club no longer want players to be sponsored, we get priced out of the market or people stop contributing to the FFSC it will carry on. Indeed and kind of the point im making. These organisations can do whatever with the money. Doesnt directly have to go the football club. Perhaps severncider and other people who are considering pulling oit, should express their opinions to the organisations
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Post by Deleted on Mar 29, 2018 7:43:15 GMT
Won't be enough for some posters who wish to believe the worse. I don’t think some want to believe the worst, it’s just that until recently there have been inconsistent messages and other problems, so say rumours, which if so, were never denied by the board. The time aspect for me, especially for the stadium is concerning. Also the distancing of the board from “commercial interests” when we are a small club which is supported and sponsored by local people. Our local vested interest is higher than the multi national conglomerate premier league teams supported by global industries and brands. ALQs need to recognise, embrace and also respect that. Problem is that they seem to think we are a premier league club, hence why they rent an office in London because other premier league teams do- I mean WTF?! I totally agree though, being invested in the community should be the lifeblood of a club like ours. Foreign owners can't understand that and they also seem to think that such a community asset belongs to them and locals should keep our noses out.
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Post by Topper Gas on Mar 29, 2018 7:55:34 GMT
I don’t think some want to believe the worst, it’s just that until recently there have been inconsistent messages and other problems, so say rumours, which if so, were never denied by the board. The time aspect for me, especially for the stadium is concerning. Also the distancing of the board from “commercial interests” when we are a small club which is supported and sponsored by local people. Our local vested interest is higher than the multi national conglomerate premier league teams supported by global industries and brands. ALQs need to recognise, embrace and also respect that. Problem is that they seem to think we are a premier league club, hence why they rent an office in London because other premier league teams do- I mean WTF?! I totally agree though, being invested in the community should be the lifeblood of a club like ours. Foreign owners can't understand that and they also seem to think that such a community asset belongs to them and locals should keep our noses out. Then again BRFC seems to be doing far more in the community post NH than it ever did before? Perhaps the new CEO will actually start communicating with the fans than seemingly ignoring us like the Chairman does.
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Post by CheshireGas on Mar 29, 2018 8:23:18 GMT
Then again BRFC seems to be doing far more in the community post NH than it ever did before? Perhaps the new CEO will actually start communicating with the fans than seemingly ignoring us like the Chairman does. But I thought you said that the Chairman had been emailed and that he had responded. I got the impression that you said someone had had an email exchange with him and he had responded openly and honestly. Doesn't sound like someone who is unwilling or afraid to engage with fans.....
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Post by BishopstonBRFC on Mar 29, 2018 8:49:53 GMT
Won't be enough for some posters who wish to believe the worse. I don’t think some want to believe the worst, it’s just that until recently there have been inconsistent messages and other problems, so say rumours, which if so, were never denied by the board. The time aspect for me, especially for the stadium is concerning. Also the distancing of the board from “commercial interests” when we are a small club which is supported and sponsored by local people. Our local vested interest is higher than the multi national conglomerate premier league teams supported by global industries and brands. ALQs need to recognise, embrace and also respect that. But if we ever truly want to push on as a club as sad as it is to lose local sponsorship, I don't see how that could be anywhere near as lucrative as what I hope the Al Qadis could attract as a sponsor.
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