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Post by LJG on May 4, 2018 12:54:25 GMT
Have we gone bust yet, have we entered administration yet, he we failed to pay any players of suppliers yet like our friends south of the river did in 1982 NO We are living within the means of the Family which is a dam site better than the previous owners Glad we agree we aren't living within our means. Facts don't lue Any more thoughts on my question about what you would be doing differently?
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Post by peterparker on May 4, 2018 12:54:49 GMT
Lord Justice Gashead posted it a few messages up. "Hi Geoff it's Steve Yates. Hope this gets to your show. Gaffer is a legend and deserves to be managing at a higher level, give him the budget and facilities to get where he and those players deserve to be. Best manager I've ever worked with". Thanks Pirate have to agree with the sentiment! ! I think we all agree with the sentiment.
I am amazed though that some people can tell the tone of the text and assume it is a dig at the owners.
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Post by peterparker on May 4, 2018 12:55:31 GMT
Thanks Pirate have to agree with the sentiment! ! I think we all agree with the sentiment. (well everyone except Midland obviously)
I am amazed though that some people can tell the tone of the text and know it is a dig at the owners.
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Post by markczgas on May 4, 2018 12:56:39 GMT
Thanks Pirate have to agree with the sentiment! ! I think we all agree with the sentiment.
I am amazed though that some people can tell the tone of the text and assume it is a dig at the owners.
There into soap operas too much ?
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Post by gassince1957 on May 4, 2018 13:04:31 GMT
and what do you expect ? we are living to our means if you want to watch plastic football by plastic football teams there are plenty of examples of failure in that dept..... Sunderland etc etc You mention sunderland but forgot to mention brentford,blackburn,millwall,preston,bristol city,fulham,cardiff city,birmingham city,derby co,hull city,leeds,ipswich,middlesbro,nottm forest,QPR,reading, and mostly every club that gets to play at championship level and above. It sounds great saying "living within our means" but i would suggest that nobody ever gets anywhere in the game by doing that. Burton?
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Post by pirate49 on May 4, 2018 13:04:51 GMT
I think we all agree with the sentiment.
I am amazed though that some people can tell the tone of the text and assume it is a dig at the owners.
They're into soap operas too much ? Leave it out mate!
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Post by pirate on May 4, 2018 13:12:24 GMT
You mention sunderland but forgot to mention brentford,blackburn,millwall,preston,bristol city,fulham,cardiff city,birmingham city,derby co,hull city,leeds,ipswich,middlesbro,nottm forest,QPR,reading, and mostly every club that gets to play at championship level and above. It sounds great saying "living within our means" but i would suggest that nobody ever gets anywhere in the game by doing that. Burton? What a fantastic job their chairman Ben Robinson (and manager of course) has done at the club. Even if they go down this season, the fact they stayed up last season and are still in with a chance of survival this season is remarkable when you consider the ground only holds 6,912. They made a pre-tax profit of more than £1million during their debut Championship season.
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Post by Deleted on May 4, 2018 13:17:59 GMT
"Hi Geoff it's Steve Yates. Hope this gets to your show. Gaffer is a legend and deserves to be managing at a higher level, give him the budget and facilities to get where he and those players deserve to be. Best manager I've ever worked with". That's quite an accolade, given that Steve Yates was with Gerry and then Ray Wilkins at QPR. Darrell is definitely a huge asset to our club.
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Post by yattongas on May 4, 2018 13:42:11 GMT
With regards to the pause after being asked if he thought the owners matched his ambitions.... Well if he’s a driven as he sounds I guess he ultimately wants to manage at the highest level. Does he think / believe our owners want to take us to the highest level ? Understanble pause.... it seems to me our ambition as a club is to get to the championship .
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Post by countygroundhotel on May 4, 2018 13:53:01 GMT
Glad we agree we aren't living within our means. Facts don't lue Any more thoughts on my question about what you would be doing differently? Not having signed a confidentiality agreement to do due diligence on the books no. However looking at the limited information in the public domain I know it's a fact we aren't living within our means. Appreciate that an Internet forum isn't the place to quote facts as it offends so many people. How are you getting on training that racehorse from the corner shop?
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Post by gasstrictband on May 4, 2018 13:54:16 GMT
At this time, DC is the corner stone of our football club.
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Post by LJG on May 4, 2018 13:55:32 GMT
Any more thoughts on my question about what you would be doing differently? Not having signed a confidentiality agreement to do due diligence on the books no. However looking at the limited information in the public domain I know it's a fact we aren't living within our means. Appreciate that an Internet forum isn't the place to quote facts as it offends so many people. How are you getting on training that racehorse from the corner shop? I've spent a load of money on a trainer and livery and he hasn't come in once. Tough innit? So ultimately you have no suggestions about what should be done differently?
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Post by peterparker on May 4, 2018 13:57:56 GMT
Any more thoughts on my question about what you would be doing differently? Not having signed a confidentiality agreement to do due diligence on the books no. However looking at the limited information in the public domain I know it's a fact we aren't living within our means. Appreciate that an Internet forum isn't the place to quote facts as it offends so many people. How are you getting on training that racehorse from the corner shop? are we living within our means? No, but what is your solution?
The club requires investment to make it profitable doesn't it?
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Post by Deleted on May 4, 2018 14:22:50 GMT
You mention sunderland but forgot to mention brentford,blackburn,millwall,preston,bristol city,fulham,cardiff city,birmingham city,derby co,hull city,leeds,ipswich,middlesbro,nottm forest,QPR,reading, and mostly every club that gets to play at championship level and above. It sounds great saying "living within our means" but i would suggest that nobody ever gets anywhere in the game by doing that. Burton? Very true but in a way it also illustrates the point im making. They could yet stay up and have another season of struggle while the rest of the league spend a fortune they havnt earned.
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Post by stuart1974 on May 4, 2018 14:25:52 GMT
Did anyone pick up on DC's comment, with emphasis, about how hard people are working behind the scenes or just 'that pause'?
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Post by Deleted on May 4, 2018 14:28:13 GMT
People wanting us to live within our means while demanding we build a stadium which will cost a fortune and take years to pay off!
Massive investment is needed and one day in the future an owner could possibly sell the club for a large amount of money. Will steve lansdown ever get all his money back? Maybe if they get into the premier division or even then maybe not. Point is that football finances are crazy.
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Post by yattongas on May 4, 2018 14:32:35 GMT
Did anyone pick up on DC's comment, with emphasis, about how hard people are working behind the scenes or just 'that pause'? Yes. We’ve got to hope that he knows more than he’s allowed to say at this point. It’s the hope that kills you !
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Post by swissgas on May 4, 2018 14:34:14 GMT
Not having signed a confidentiality agreement to do due diligence on the books no. However looking at the limited information in the public domain I know it's a fact we aren't living within our means. Appreciate that an Internet forum isn't the place to quote facts as it offends so many people. How are you getting on training that racehorse from the corner shop? are we living within our means? No, but what is your solution?
The club requires investment to make it profitable doesn't it?
Peter, remember the debates about outside investment in 2011/12 ? We were in a perfect position to attract it then with planning agreed for the UWE Stadium, hardly any debt and a huge amount of equity in the Memorial Stadium even without Sainsburys. All it needed was for Nick Higgs to have had the vision to realise that outside investment was essential to drive through the project and transform the club. It was a chance to finally get away from the small town mentality and an obsession with keeping hands on control which blights so many small businesses that could otherwise grow and prosper. We tried to persuade him but didn't succeed. Now we are in a far worse position with no equity in the Mem and nothing much to offer other than our place in League 1 and that elusive quality called potential. The solution is to bring in fresh risk capital to finance the new infrastructure required and the only way I can see that happening is for Dwane Sports to turn their loan into equity and be prepared to give up their majority shareholding.
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Post by Deleted on May 4, 2018 14:36:13 GMT
Not having signed a confidentiality agreement to do due diligence on the books no. However looking at the limited information in the public domain I know it's a fact we aren't living within our means. Appreciate that an Internet forum isn't the place to quote facts as it offends so many people. How are you getting on training that racehorse from the corner shop? I've spent a load of money on a trainer and livery and he hasn't come in once. Tough innit? So ultimately you have no suggestions about what should be done differently? What is your Nag called LJG? I will keep an eye out for it..... and avoid like the plague!
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Post by garystash on May 4, 2018 14:47:40 GMT
Any more thoughts on my question about what you would be doing differently? Not having signed a confidentiality agreement to do due diligence on the books no. However looking at the limited information in the public domain I know it's a fact we aren't living within our means. Appreciate that an Internet forum isn't the place to quote facts as it offends so many people. How are you getting on training that racehorse from the corner shop? Usually it's being rude and insulting that upsets people, not facts.
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