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Post by Deleted on May 12, 2018 18:24:31 GMT
One of the reasons i watch football is because of players like danny leadbitter,love his surging forward runs and he usually draws 2 players out wide to deal with him. Hes not the best defender in truth but he is better than partington or james clarke who simply cant cope against decent wide players. This season: Danny Leadbitter at RB: 32 goals conceded from 17 games. On average 1.88 goals conceded per game. Joe Partington at RB: 32 goals conceded from 23 games. On average 1.39 goals conceded per game. James Clarke as RB: 7 goals conceded from 7 games. On average 1 goal conceded per game. Still think Leadbitter is a better option defensively than Partington and Clarke? On top of this, Partington scored 3 goals and made 2 assists this year whilst Leadbitter scored no goals and made 1 assist. Some of the balls that Parts put in at times were brilliant. Shame about his injury. Partington would be my first choice on the basis of this and what I have seen from all three fullbacks this season. In tougher games we could go with James Clarke to shore things up defensively. I do get what people say about Leadbitter being more exciting to watch and I would definitely keep him around as backup and try to bring the best out of him again but from an attacking and defensive standpoint, the others have been better this year. Those stats are meaningless as there were 10 other players on the pitch! I dont think we had any full backs who were very good defensively last season or the season before to be honest. But lee brown,danny leadbitter and partington are all decent going forward.
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May 12, 2018 18:33:19 GMT
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Post by axegas on May 12, 2018 18:33:19 GMT
This season: Danny Leadbitter at RB: 32 goals conceded from 17 games. On average 1.88 goals conceded per game. Joe Partington at RB: 32 goals conceded from 23 games. On average 1.39 goals conceded per game. James Clarke as RB: 7 goals conceded from 7 games. On average 1 goal conceded per game. Still think Leadbitter is a better option defensively than Partington and Clarke? On top of this, Partington scored 3 goals and made 2 assists this year whilst Leadbitter scored no goals and made 1 assist. Some of the balls that Parts put in at times were brilliant. Shame about his injury. Partington would be my first choice on the basis of this and what I have seen from all three fullbacks this season. In tougher games we could go with James Clarke to shore things up defensively. I do get what people say about Leadbitter being more exciting to watch and I would definitely keep him around as backup and try to bring the best out of him again but from an attacking and defensive standpoint, the others have been better this year. Those stats are meaningless as there were 10 other players on the pitch! I dont think we had any full backs who were very good defensively last season or the season before to be honest. But lee brown,danny leadbitter and partington are all decent going forward. They aren’t meaningless as they do give a general picture especially the stats showing Partington as a much more creative player than Leadbitter as that is down to the player alone. I’m not just basing my opinion on those facts, there are a lot of things that come into it aswell you are right but I also based it on seeing them play many times over the last couple of years. I don’t know if you’ve seen the thread on the other forum that has averaged out all the player ratings over the course of the season as marked by Steve but they back my point up as they show Parts had the 6th highest average score with 6.52 whilst Leadbitter had the 3rd lowest with an average score of 5.43. An opinion is just an opinion, we all have one.
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Post by Deleted on May 12, 2018 18:49:57 GMT
Those stats are meaningless as there were 10 other players on the pitch! I dont think we had any full backs who were very good defensively last season or the season before to be honest. But lee brown,danny leadbitter and partington are all decent going forward. They aren’t meaningless as they do give a general picture especially the stats showing Partington as a much more creative player than Leadbitter as that is down to the player alone. I’m not just basing my opinion on those facts, there are a lot of things that come into it aswell you are right but I also based it on seeing them play many times over the last couple of years. I don’t know if you’ve seen the thread on the other forum that has averaged out all the player ratings over the course of the season as marked by Steve but they back my point up as they show Parts had the 6th highest average score with 6.52 whilst Leadbitter had the 3rd lowest with an average score of 5.43. An opinion is just an opinion, we all have one. I like steve k"s reports but his favourite players are very different to mine,. I think partington is a good footballer,just dont have any idea where to play him as hes too slow at right-back and not aggressive/physical enough in midfield imo.
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Post by madgas on May 12, 2018 20:16:05 GMT
I like all three Right backs.
For me though, they all need to find some consistency.
Parts put the best run together last season. Danny Leadbitters pace toward the end of games usually has LBs petrified.
They both both need to find that 5% to be top of the table RBs. (Imo)
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Post by Topper Gas on May 12, 2018 21:12:42 GMT
They aren’t meaningless as they do give a general picture especially the stats showing Partington as a much more creative player than Leadbitter as that is down to the player alone. I’m not just basing my opinion on those facts, there are a lot of things that come into it aswell you are right but I also based it on seeing them play many times over the last couple of years. I don’t know if you’ve seen the thread on the other forum that has averaged out all the player ratings over the course of the season as marked by Steve but they back my point up as they show Parts had the 6th highest average score with 6.52 whilst Leadbitter had the 3rd lowest with an average score of 5.43. An opinion is just an opinion, we all have one. I like steve k"s reports but his favourite players are very different to mine,. I think partington is a good footballer,just dont have any idea where to play him as hes too slow at right-back and not aggressive/physical enough in midfield imo. Assuming Craig is going to take Brown's LB position next season then we're going to lack pace if we rely on Parts on the other wing.
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May 12, 2018 21:29:54 GMT
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Post by islandgas on May 12, 2018 21:29:54 GMT
DC has already stated that he wants a left back or 2 so it would seem Craig is not the preferred left back. As regards leads, he is injury prone and not a great defender. If he signs then fair enough, he has pace and can do a job at right back but with limited cash at his disposal I don't see DC being particularly concerned if he moves on nor signin anyone to replace him.
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Post by ricardo on May 12, 2018 23:59:52 GMT
Personally I am shocked that Leadbetter will be here next season, hasn’t cut it in league 1 for me. Up to him to prove me wrong now I guess.
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Post by Deleted on May 13, 2018 0:04:10 GMT
I like steve k"s reports but his favourite players are very different to mine,. I think partington is a good footballer,just dont have any idea where to play him as hes too slow at right-back and not aggressive/physical enough in midfield imo. Assuming Craig is going to take Brown's LB position next season then we're going to lack pace if we rely on Parts on the other wing. I think we will sign a left back. As recently as 2 or 3 weeks ago dc said he likes to have full backs that can bomb forward. Well right now we dont have any full backs that can do that.
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Post by pirate on May 13, 2018 0:34:00 GMT
Assuming Craig is going to take Brown's LB position next season then we're going to lack pace if we rely on Parts on the other wing. I think we will sign a left back. As recently as 2 or 3 weeks ago dc said he likes to have full backs that can bomb forward. Well right now we dont have any full backs that can do that. Michael Kelly can, but obviously he's inexperienced at the moment.
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Post by EastVanGas on May 13, 2018 10:33:44 GMT
I think we will sign a left back. As recently as 2 or 3 weeks ago dc said he likes to have full backs that can bomb forward. Well right now we dont have any full backs that can do that. Michael Kelly can, but obviously he's inexperienced at the moment. Lee Brown wasn't much more experienced when we signed him. I think DC will give MK a shot at left back next season.
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Post by pirate on May 13, 2018 11:37:20 GMT
Michael Kelly can, but obviously he's inexperienced at the moment. Lee Brown wasn't much more experienced when we signed him. I think DC will give MK a shot at left back next season. We'll sign a new left back I'm sure, but MK will compete for the position and if he keeps progressing how he has been doing, could make the position his own. I like him and think he has a bright future.
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Post by lpgas on May 13, 2018 14:26:27 GMT
Why wasn't Leads tried in midfield as a winger defender hybrid?
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Post by Topper Gas on May 13, 2018 14:38:06 GMT
DC has already stated that he wants a left back or 2 so it would seem Craig is not the preferred left back. As regards leads, he is injury prone and not a great defender. If he signs then fair enough, he has pace and can do a job at right back but with limited cash at his disposal I don't see DC being particularly concerned if he moves on nor signin anyone to replace him. I'd be surprised if DC intends playing a centre back pairing of Locks & Craig all season, when it means Broadbent isn't then going to get much first team action.
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Post by axegas on May 14, 2018 8:52:49 GMT
DC has already stated that he wants a left back or 2 so it would seem Craig is not the preferred left back. As regards leads, he is injury prone and not a great defender. If he signs then fair enough, he has pace and can do a job at right back but with limited cash at his disposal I don't see DC being particularly concerned if he moves on nor signin anyone to replace him. I'd be surprised if DC intends playing a centre back pairing of Locks & Craig all season, when it means Broadbent isn't then going to get much first team action. I’d imagine there will be a point in the future when Craig will give way and Broadbent will be slowly phased in after Craig has had time to impart all his knowledge and experience on our defenders. I expect Craig will still play a fair bit next season though as he has only just turned 33 and his experience of being promoted out of this league is invaluable, perhaps at left back?
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Post by Jomo on May 14, 2018 9:01:02 GMT
Why wasn't Leads tried in midfield as a winger defender hybrid? A wing-back you mean? Hasn't he been tried as that several times in the past?
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Post by Topper Gas on May 14, 2018 9:48:03 GMT
I'd be surprised if DC intends playing a centre back pairing of Locks & Craig all season, when it means Broadbent isn't then going to get much first team action. I’d imagine there will be a point in the future when Craig will give way and Broadbent will be slowly phased in after Craig has had time to impart all his knowledge and experience on our defenders. I expect Craig will still play a fair bit next season though as he has only just turned 33 and his experience of being promoted out of this league is invaluable, perhaps at left back? Craig at LB was my suggestion earlier on in the thread,
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Post by Topper Gas on May 14, 2018 9:53:39 GMT
Why wasn't Leads tried in midfield as a winger defender hybrid? A wing-back you mean? Hasn't he been tried as that several times in the past? It was never a success though but we never really had a suitable back 3 with JC out injured and Leads seemingly being injured most of the time since TC's arrival.
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Post by peterhooper57 on May 14, 2018 9:57:13 GMT
One of the reasons i watch football is because of players like danny leadbitter,love his surging forward runs and he usually draws 2 players out wide to deal with him. Hes not the best defender in truth but he is better than partington or james clarke who simply cant cope against decent wide players. Good pace, not great at defending and his second touch is sometimes a header and his crossing is not great. Regularly injured, yep keep him.
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Post by Deleted on May 14, 2018 11:29:05 GMT
One of the reasons i watch football is because of players like danny leadbitter,love his surging forward runs and he usually draws 2 players out wide to deal with him. Hes not the best defender in truth but he is better than partington or james clarke who simply cant cope against decent wide players. Good pace, not great at defending and his second touch is sometimes a header and his crossing is not great. Regularly injured, yep keep him. Well dc has already offered him a contract so the "keep him" argument is pointless. My view is that were going to be weak defensively at right-back with leadbitter,j clarke or partington but at least dan causes problems going forward,if hes fit!
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Post by philbemmygas on May 14, 2018 11:46:49 GMT
Good pace, not great at defending and his second touch is sometimes a header and his crossing is not great. Regularly injured, yep keep him. Well dc has already offered him a contract so the "keep him" argument is pointless. My view is that were going to be weak defensively at right-back with leadbitter,j clarke or partington but at least dan causes problems going forward,if hes fit! In my opinion (obscure though it may be) both Joe Partington & James Clarke are better defenders than Danny Leadbetter and both are more capable of finding their man whilst overlapping. Add James Clarke's long throw into the mix; and I believe with or without Danny we will be ok (injuries permitting) next season. UTG
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