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Post by Deleted on Jun 20, 2018 6:31:19 GMT
Not the first time that Branson has taken money from the NHS/Taxpayer/You/Me. This bloke really is a twunt. Branson sues the NHS |
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Post by Marshy on Jun 20, 2018 10:12:39 GMT
Not the first time that Branson has taken money from the NHS/Taxpayer/You/Me. This bloke really is a twunt. Branson sues the NHSFaggot. |
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Post by pirate on Jun 20, 2018 14:35:28 GMT
Branson, the man who hosted the war criminal Obama on holiday when he left office, after he had dropped 26,171 bombs in his last year in office. I wonder how people like this sleep at night. Sociopaths - no conscience. Talking of the NHS... Criminal charges could be brought following “truly shocking” revelations that the lives of more than 450 people had been shortened by the prescribing and administering of opioids without medical justification at the Gosport War Memorial Hospital. A damning report found an additional 200 patients were “probably” similarly affected between 1989 and 2000. www.itv.com/news/2018-06-20/gosport-hospital-probe-reveals-truly-shocking-catalogue-of-failings/ |
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Post by Deleted on Jun 20, 2018 14:42:23 GMT
It might help if we had a Government competent enough to write a procurement procedure. The exact same thing happened when the current lot altered the Rail Franchising process. I think the total cost there was £148m.
You can't blame private companies operating under free market rules.
You do believe in a free market...Right?
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Post by Deleted on Jun 21, 2018 10:27:05 GMT
It might help if we had a Government competent enough to write a procurement procedure. The exact same thing happened when the current lot altered the Rail Franchising process. I think the total cost there was £148m. You can't blame private companies operating under free market rules. You do believe in a free market...Right?Steady there Oldie. The very mention of the NHS becoming subject to free market rules will bring out the hives in many people ! The problems are when private companies get involved with state-controlled behemoths.....and we all know that when it comes to Procurement, government are very amateurish in their work/approach. It's still not nice for Mr Tax Exile Branson to take money from the NHS though, is it? |
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Post by Deleted on Jun 21, 2018 14:55:50 GMT
It might help if we had a Government competent enough to write a procurement procedure. The exact same thing happened when the current lot altered the Rail Franchising process. I think the total cost there was £148m. You can't blame private companies operating under free market rules. You do believe in a free market...Right?Steady there Oldie. The very mention of the NHS becoming subject to free market rules will bring out the hives in many people ! The problems are when private companies get involved with state-controlled behemoths.....and we all know that when it comes to Procurement, government are very amateurish in their work/approach. It's still not nice for Mr Tax Exile Branson to take money from the NHS though, is it? No, he is being a prick. But that doesn't excuse the government. On your other point there is absolutely nothing wrong with public sector procuring private sector capacity when there are capacity constraints |
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Post by William Wilson on Jun 22, 2018 6:49:21 GMT
It might help if we had a Government competent enough to write a procurement procedure. The exact same thing happened when the current lot altered the Rail Franchising process. I think the total cost there was £148m. You can't blame private companies operating under free market rules. You do believe in a free market...Right? Wouldn`t you be happier living in a non - capitalist country, Les? Maybe Venezuela? You could use the 25 minutes of electricity they get each day, to let the rest of us know how you`re getting on.
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Post by Hugo the Elder on Jun 22, 2018 8:35:48 GMT
It might help if we had a Government competent enough to write a procurement procedure. The exact same thing happened when the current lot altered the Rail Franchising process. I think the total cost there was £148m. You can't blame private companies operating under free market rules. You do believe in a free market...Right? Wouldn`t you be happier living in a non - capitalist country, Les? Maybe Venezuela? You could use the 25 minutes of electricity they get each day, to let the rest of us know how you`re getting on.
Surely massive inequality, the top 1%, so called trickle down economics etc proves that capitalism doesn't work either? Not liking capitalism doesn't automatically make you someone that wants communism. There must be some middle ground. Read recently that wealth inequality is currently much much worse now than it was during the French Revolution. It's just that us poor fuckers are subjegated and suppressed by TV and have accepted the wonders of a capitalist nirvana. |
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Post by Deleted on Jun 22, 2018 9:48:00 GMT
Wouldn`t you be happier living in a non - capitalist country, Les? Maybe Venezuela? You could use the 25 minutes of electricity they get each day, to let the rest of us know how you`re getting on.
Surely massive inequality, the top 1%, so called trickle down economics etc proves that capitalism doesn't work either? Not liking capitalism doesn't automatically make you someone that wants communism. There must be some middle ground. Read recently that wealth inequality is currently much much worse now than it was during the French Revolution. It's just that us poor fuckers are subjegated and suppressed by TV and have accepted the wonders of a capitalist nirvana. I think everyone will agree that capitalism is not ideal, but then again, it's better than the alternative. I think your French Revolution analogy is nonsense. Nowadays, most people have decent houses, with heating. Food is readily available. Even if you can't earn money, the government will provide for you. Life expectancy is longer, infant mortality is far lower. Life now, for the average person, is far better than the life during the French revolution ! The living standards enjoyed by those of us in the West are better than they have ever been, and it's capitalism that has bought that about. |
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Post by pirate on Jun 22, 2018 11:02:55 GMT
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Post by pirate on Jun 22, 2018 11:04:32 GMT
Wouldn`t you be happier living in a non - capitalist country, Les? Maybe Venezuela? You could use the 25 minutes of electricity they get each day, to let the rest of us know how you`re getting on.
Surely massive inequality, the top 1%, so called trickle down economics etc proves that capitalism doesn't work either? Not liking capitalism doesn't automatically make you someone that wants communism. There must be some middle ground. Read recently that wealth inequality is currently much much worse now than it was during the French Revolution. It's just that us poor fuckers are subjegated and suppressed by TV and have accepted the wonders of a capitalist nirvana.  |
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Post by Deleted on Jun 22, 2018 11:12:59 GMT
Seriously, that is the job of the parents is it not? |
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Post by pirate on Jun 22, 2018 11:20:45 GMT
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Post by Hugo the Elder on Jun 22, 2018 11:42:51 GMT
Seriously, that is the job of the parents is it not? Very much so. No issues with school picking up the slack, but should never be a substitute. |
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Post by Deleted on Jun 22, 2018 11:46:37 GMT
I'm sorry. I don't accept that. In this welfare state there is more than enough money available to be able to feed your own kids. It doesn't need to cost a lot of money. The blame should fall squarely on the shoulders of the parents if their kids are going hungry. |
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Post by pirate on Jun 22, 2018 12:15:44 GMT
I'm sorry. I don't accept that. In this welfare state there is more than enough money available to be able to feed your own kids. It doesn't need to cost a lot of money. The blame should fall squarely on the shoulders of the parents if their kids are going hungry. Poorest UK families struggle to put food on the table, survey finds. One in four low-income households does not eat regularly or healthily because of a lack of money, Food Standards Agency says. Rachel Loopstra, lecturer in nutrition at King’s College London, said: “These robust survey data confirm how serious the scale of the problem of people not having enough money for food to eat is in the UK, and are consistent with reports of increasing food bank usage. “It is shocking that, at minimum, 17% of adults are worrying about their food supplies running out before they have enough money to buy more, and unacceptable that 8% of adults have had to eat less, experienced hunger, or at worse, gone whole days without eating because they lack money for food.” Anna Taylor, executive director of the Food Foundation thinktank, said: “These data are truly shocking. To take so many British people off the breadline the government must drive uptake of the Healthy Start programme for young and low-income mothers, tackle gaps in food provision during school holidays, and review our welfare policies to protect the diets of society’s most vulnerable.” www.theguardian.com/society/2017/mar/30/poorest-uk-families-struggle-eat-regularly-heathily-food-standards-agency-survey |
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Post by Deleted on Jun 22, 2018 14:20:12 GMT
It might help if we had a Government competent enough to write a procurement procedure. The exact same thing happened when the current lot altered the Rail Franchising process. I think the total cost there was £148m. You can't blame private companies operating under free market rules. You do believe in a free market...Right? Wouldn`t you be happier living in a non - capitalist country, Les? Maybe Venezuela? You could use the 25 minutes of electricity they get each day, to let the rest of us know how you`re getting on.
Oh dear. I am currently in AMERICA enjoying the fruits of "Capitalism". But as Hugo says that doesnt blind me to what is blindingly obvious |
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Post by althepirate on Jun 25, 2018 21:22:28 GMT
If my kids were hungry I do any job to stop that, wouldn't we all?.
Don't their parents have any pride or sense of responsibility?
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Post by pirate on Jun 25, 2018 22:36:51 GMT
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Post by althepirate on Jun 27, 2018 8:33:19 GMT
Hi Pirate, I've read all that thanks for posting. For years I've been sympathetic and then one day I thought hang on a minute, when I've actually been in that situation I have reacted differently to those I am giving sympathy to. I do think the issue here is one's personal self esteem and that as we know is shaped by many factors. The thing is no matter what a person's upbringing and life experiences are when we reach adulthood we are responsible for our behaviour. I have been a support worker for 12 years and I don't see people going without food. However I only see those who cannot work because of physical or mental issues. So I think this country does a good job. Many of the people I see have a larger income than me, in real terms and I am working! I don't have a problem with that as I am grateful that I am healthy enough to be able to work. So we come to the people who are healthy but dont work.My take on this is that they are not thinking of themselves enough to improve their lot and that is a compliment not a criticism. I know a chap who lives in the bushes in a suburb of Bristol and when I see him his topic of conversation is world affairs. He loses me with all of that. My point here is he is obviously intelligent but he's looking at the bigger picture instead of the smaller one, himself. The thing I've learnt in life is that few people care about you so you have to care about yourself and if you have one your family too. The government don't care, the banks and other financial institutions don't care they just think about themselves and thats what we must do especially if we are in trouble. Some of the best people I have met have been poor, but I have noticed they have put others first, a fine quality, but they have neglected themselves. The homeless ask for change but most people don't really care even if they throw £1 in your hat on their way to Costa where they throw £5 into Costa's hat for a cup of tea and a piece of cake.My point about responsibility is that if your in the sh** you focus on the smaller picture, yourself and your family and this could mean really putting yourself out to do this and getting out of the comfort zone of benefits which isn't that comfortable anyway. Expecting the government or society to look after your children is like asking the fire brigade to rescue your children from your burning house while you stand around and watch. I am on the side of people who are struggling, but they have to get on their own side as well imho. |
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