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Post by syg on Jul 5, 2018 12:02:39 GMT
I dont watch England matches apart from the world cup, I don't recognise any of the players as I never watch the premiership. So with a neutral starting point I would say Sterling is the poorest player in an England shirt, Trippier has been the best.
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Post by Gas Go Marching In on Jul 5, 2018 12:12:37 GMT
Vardy was brought on too late IMO. I like Vardy but he is very one dimensional. He is suited more against teams that will attack us and we can him them on the counter. He would have been a good outlet when we were sititing back. As it was he was only on the pitch for 5 mins and then they equalised, which then made him (and Dier to an extent) ineffective. I thought this thread was about Nichols/Stirling not yet another Gaschat World Cup discussion thread? Oh, get a life topper! |
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Post by cj on Jul 5, 2018 12:24:58 GMT
Take it from me sterling to score v sweden and nichols to bag 15 goals this season. Now boys and girls, here is todays life lesson. Too much drug abuse makes you come out with stupid things like the above! 
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Post by ineedgas on Jul 5, 2018 14:28:32 GMT
Ya but Worrell Sterling wasn't a striker like Nichols
so how can you compare
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Post by Eaststaffsgas on Jul 5, 2018 17:39:55 GMT
Don't post very often but just had to in this instance. I sincerely hope Stirling does some great things in the next game because I want England to do well and I am prepared to get behind everyone that puts on the shirt. However, he does and always has frustrated the hell out of me. In my view, technically, he is very poor. I get fed up when everyone talks about his pace, ignoring the fact that it doesn't matter how fast you are, if you cant control the ball or lay off a simple pass on a regular basis, you are going to get some stick. Yes, I think he has improved a little and as someone else has said, Pep obviously thinks he has something. However, for me, he falls into the same bracket as a host of England wingers like Lennon and particularly Walcott who can all run like whippets but unfortunately have the same ball control as them- they also don't seem to know how to beat a player and when they try a trick, they usually end up falling over their own feet. I often wonder why such players just don't kick the ball pass their defender and run after it as with their pace, they will probably get to the ball first. Lets hope that Sterling has a great game and that England win but I am afraid that I just don't think Raheem is technically very good and I am often amazed that others don't seem to see that. COYB and, come on England!
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Post by Big Jock on Jul 5, 2018 18:09:32 GMT
Not technically very good!!! FFS, cannae believe th criticism this lad gets for you. IMO he was yer best player early doors against th Colombians, second half made some superb runs, i don't think some of th others had th vision to spot them. He was a constant threat on th final shoulder and late on was yer biggest threat on the counter.
Th stick he gets reminds me of Ellis, like whom he works his socks off and despite being an attacking player is often Englands first line of defence.
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Post by spiess1 on Jul 5, 2018 19:20:08 GMT
Matlock, you're amazed that others (Pep,GS) don't see that RS is not technically very good.
I think there's a message for you in this.
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Post by pirate49 on Jul 5, 2018 20:28:22 GMT
Worrell every time!
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Post by Deleted on Jul 6, 2018 0:28:45 GMT
I dont watch England matches apart from the world cup, I don't recognise any of the players as I never watch the premiership. So with a neutral starting point I would say Sterling is the poorest player in an England shirt, Trippier has been the best. Sterling is a 1st choice player in easily the best team in the country who has not hit top form so far in the world cup. Simple as that really and down to darren southgate which team he picks for sweden. In my view theirs a bit of a witch hunt against a fantastic player. |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 6, 2018 0:31:39 GMT
Don't post very often but just had to in this instance. I sincerely hope Stirling does some great things in the next game because I want England to do well and I am prepared to get behind everyone that puts on the shirt. However, he does and always has frustrated the hell out of me. In my view, technically, he is very poor. I get fed up when everyone talks about his pace, ignoring the fact that it doesn't matter how fast you are, if you cant control the ball or lay off a simple pass on a regular basis, you are going to get some stick. Yes, I think he has improved a little and as someone else has said, Pep obviously thinks he has something. However, for me, he falls into the same bracket as a host of England wingers like Lennon and particularly Walcott who can all run like whippets but unfortunately have the same ball control as them- they also don't seem to know how to beat a player and when they try a trick, they usually end up falling over their own feet. I often wonder why such players just don't kick the ball pass their defender and run after it as with their pace, they will probably get to the ball first. Lets hope that Sterling has a great game and that England win but I am afraid that I just don't think Raheem is technically very good and I am often amazed that others don't seem to see that. COYB and, come on England! You simply wouldnt get picked for most matches by pep guardiola if your not technically excellent so im amazed that you that you are amazed. |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 6, 2018 0:33:37 GMT
Regarding tom nichols im just going to give him a clean slate and a chance to impress if and when he plays this season coming.
Its the only way imo.
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Post by Eaststaffsgas on Jul 6, 2018 7:27:18 GMT
As always,everyone entitled to have their opinion. However, I remain 'amazed' that many people can not see the amount of times that the ball gets away from Sterling when he appears to have it under control, not to mention his decision making at times. I acknowledged that Pep obviously sees something in him and I regard Pep as the best manager around. However, I am remarking on his technique, his ability to bring the ball under control quickly and to keep it and then use it- I agree that he makes good runs and that the opposition might be terrified of his pace. Maybe the latter qualities are why Pep picks him? After all, a great team needs a variety of different qualities within it and there are plenty of others around Sterling in the Man City team that possess the things I think Sterling lacks- that's what makes a good team and Pep is the best at getting a team to gel. At the same time, I would like to add that I am not on any witch hunt against the guy and I am fully behind him when he puts on the shirt- I just don't think he has a great technique and that's my opinion based on what I see. That doesn't mean that I have a personal vendetta against him and I would certainly not give him any stick were I to be in a ground watching him playing for England. However, as a neutral, watching him play for Man City, I do get very frustrated at times and I am afraid that is how I feel.
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Post by e4bandrobinstubbs on Jul 6, 2018 7:55:40 GMT
Sterling brings a lot more to England's game though. His pace and movement is quality, but everyone jumps on the hate Sterling bandwagon. He gives the ball away a lot, because he takes risks, we need someone to do that. Most the other players were afraid to take risks on Tuesday night. No coincidence IMO, that we went sh** after he went off, nobody as was taking risks or creating space. Sadly so many people buy into the hate pushed by the red top newspapers. No coincidence that when playing with top quality players at Man City he was one of the best players in the Premier League last season. Edit - As for Nichols being top quality I’ll have 3 of whatever you’re smoking please bluebutterfly. There is a danger though that as time goes on Sterling (who is a superb footballer)will psychologically see the opposition penalty area as a (for him) failure zone. Please let him score a couple of winners tomorrow.
Red top papers are not hate pushers, they contain straightforward opinion. Unlike some black top newspapers which are clearly written by zombies for zombies. I know because I read both regularly.
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Post by spiess1 on Jul 6, 2018 9:20:29 GMT
Ah, at last,e4b. Someone on here who KNOWS something.
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Post by mattgashead on Jul 6, 2018 9:40:14 GMT
Sadly so many people buy into the hate pushed by the red top newspapers. No coincidence that when playing with top quality players at Man City he was one of the best players in the Premier League last season. Edit - As for Nichols being top quality I’ll have 3 of whatever you’re smoking please bluebutterfly. There is a danger though that as time goes on Sterling (who is a superb footballer)will psychologically see the opposition penalty area as a (for him) failure zone. Please let him score a couple of winners tomorrow.
Red top papers are not hate pushers, they contain straightforward opinion. Unlike some black top newspapers which are clearly written by zombies for zombies. I know because I read both regularly.
Oh come on the sun, is the biggest red top and it’s an absolute rag that’s full of bullshit. |
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Post by mattgashead on Jul 6, 2018 9:46:16 GMT
I feel as it’s as simple as the system not quite working for Sterling. He showed that he is a quality player for Man City last season, and I think that the main reason he has struggled in an England shirt is just the system not working for him. Red top newspapers are constantly after him, even just before this World Cup they were complaining about his tattoo and how he didn’t turn up in Russia on time. For Nichols, I would suggest that confidence is the biggest factor. He had a poor start to the season and I think that made him question if he was good enough for a team. If he fails to make an impact at the start of next season, I would suggest loaning him out and if that’s a success, give him 1 last shot.
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Post by e4bandrobinstubbs on Jul 6, 2018 11:13:46 GMT
There is a danger though that as time goes on Sterling (who is a superb footballer)will psychologically see the opposition penalty area as a (for him) failure zone. Please let him score a couple of winners tomorrow.
Red top papers are not hate pushers, they contain straightforward opinion. Unlike some black top newspapers which are clearly written by zombies for zombies. I know because I read both regularly.
Oh come on the sun, is the biggest red top and it’s an absolute rag that’s full of bullshit. |
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Post by e4bandrobinstubbs on Jul 6, 2018 11:15:01 GMT
Oh come on the sun, is the biggest red top and it’s an absolute rag that’s full of bullshit. I'm coming on alright, and agree about the Sun! |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 6, 2018 18:13:46 GMT
Both top class players who at times havnt produced their best form. Take it from me sterling to score v sweden and nichols to bag 15 goals this season. In the league or do development squad games count? Get down the bookie you'll get goods odds on this double... |
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Post by Gas Go Marching In on Sept 11, 2019 11:19:36 GMT
Sterling brings a lot more to England's game though. His pace and movement is quality, but everyone jumps on the hate Sterling bandwagon. He gives the ball away a lot, because he takes risks, we need someone to do that. Most the other players were afraid to take risks on Tuesday night. Once Ali had the ball and passed it 2 yards to Sterling, who then had to try and take the player on, as he had no other option. Everyone moaned at sterling when he lost it. He won us 2 free kicks in dangerous positions and got in some dangerous positions and no one said anything in the pub. Who loses the ball and they all shout Sterling again! I can see why he is picked. His final ball isn't as good for England, but he creates space for others. No coincidence IMO, that we went sh** after he went off, nobody as was taking risks or creating space. Same again Tunisia, we played better with him on in the first half, but got a goal from a corner at the end. There is a reason Pep picks him every week and a reason he averaged more than a goal or assist every game in the premier league. Said exactly the same on another thread (Vindaloo I think). You've got every man and his donkey on his back at the moment. Can't wait for him to stick two fingers up to everyone at some point. Bump alert... 2 fingers up and then some!! |
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