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Post by Deleted on Aug 14, 2019 18:35:35 GMT
It doesn't matter what the leave campaign said, or didn't say. Haven't you realised that yet? Nobody knew that the elected government of the day, elected on a promise to 'respect the referendum result' would do everything in their power to keep the UK attached to the EU in practically every possible way. Nobody foresaw what May was going to attempt with her ridiculous WA (which somehow morphed into a Treaty). The elected Government if the day may well be incompetent, no argument from me on that. However WTO tarrifs are a fact if we leave with no deal. Leaving with a deal required a compromise on the Northern Irish issue during negotiations for the final trade, both of which have impacted our position. None of this was given an impact assessment and brought to voters attention during the campaign (by either side, in detail) I maintain that if voters had been asked to spend over £6billion as a result of no deal the "floaters" who may have voted leave on a whim, would not have done so. Blimey, you still don't get it do you. The Irish Border 'problem' was invented by the EU, with support from May, as a means to keep the UK locked into the EU Customs Union. I maintain that without Project Fear, ie. Job losses, GDP 6%down, stock market crash etc etc etc, then even more people may have voted to leave.
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Post by Hugo the Elder on Aug 14, 2019 20:14:28 GMT
The elected Government if the day may well be incompetent, no argument from me on that. However WTO tarrifs are a fact if we leave with no deal. Leaving with a deal required a compromise on the Northern Irish issue during negotiations for the final trade, both of which have impacted our position. None of this was given an impact assessment and brought to voters attention during the campaign (by either side, in detail) I maintain that if voters had been asked to spend over £6billion as a result of no deal the "floaters" who may have voted leave on a whim, would not have done so. Blimey, you still don't get it do you. The Irish Border 'problem' was invented by the EU, with support from May, as a means to keep the UK locked into the EU Customs Union. I maintain that without Project Fear, ie. Job losses, GDP 6%down, stock market crash etc etc etc, then even more people may have voted to leave. I love how you always resort to "Project fear" like it was solely a remain issue. Leave also worked their own project fear lies. BOTH campaigns were built on fear and bullshit.
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Post by stuart1974 on Aug 14, 2019 21:51:13 GMT
The elected Government if the day may well be incompetent, no argument from me on that. However WTO tarrifs are a fact if we leave with no deal. Leaving with a deal required a compromise on the Northern Irish issue during negotiations for the final trade, both of which have impacted our position. None of this was given an impact assessment and brought to voters attention during the campaign (by either side, in detail) I maintain that if voters had been asked to spend over £6billion as a result of no deal the "floaters" who may have voted leave on a whim, would not have done so. Blimey, you still don't get it do you. The Irish Border 'problem' was invented by the EU, with support from May, as a means to keep the UK locked into the EU Customs Union. I maintain that without Project Fear, ie. Job losses, GDP 6%down, stock market crash etc etc etc, then even more people may have voted to leave. Maybe, maybe not. Why don't we test your theory 😁
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Post by Deleted on Aug 15, 2019 6:50:48 GMT
"WATCH | footage of Michel Barnier and Guy Verhofstadt's plot to "isolate" and "use Ireland" in Brexit talks to exert maximum pressure on Britain to agree a bad deal." Video
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Post by Deleted on Aug 15, 2019 11:29:49 GMT
Blimey, you still don't get it do you. The Irish Border 'problem' was invented by the EU, with support from May, as a means to keep the UK locked into the EU Customs Union. I maintain that without Project Fear, ie. Job losses, GDP 6%down, stock market crash etc etc etc, then even more people may have voted to leave. Maybe, maybe not. Why don't we test your theory 😁 Yes, why dont we Poll causes confusion after finding that 2% of Brexit Party members … flip.it/2MguYl
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Post by Deleted on Aug 15, 2019 11:53:33 GMT
Maybe, maybe not. Why don't we test your theory 😁 Yes, why dont we Poll causes confusion after finding that 2% of Brexit Party members … flip.it/2MguYlThere were a lot of Tories who paid the three quid fee to join the Labour Party so they could vote for Corbyn in the Labour Leadership contest!
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Post by Deleted on Aug 18, 2019 19:13:47 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Aug 19, 2019 11:31:43 GMT
Oh dear. A document that suggests what the 'worst case scenario' would be like eh? It's not like we haven't seen this before is it? There is probably another document that lists the 'middle case scenario', and another one listing the 'best case scenario', as that's what planners do. Funny how the 'leakers' only leaked the 'worst case scenario' document eh? The remainers are getting quite desperate now.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 19, 2019 12:32:11 GMT
Oh dear. A document that suggests what the 'worst case scenario' would be like eh? It's not like we haven't seen this before is it? There is probably another document that lists the 'middle case scenario', and another one listing the 'best case scenario', as that's what planners do. Funny how the 'leakers' only leaked the 'worst case scenario' document eh? The remainers are getting quite desperate now. As remainers, we can only deal with what's out there. Nobody can deal with "there probably is this that or the other", that's leaver speak for putting their fingers in their years and singing loudly "la la la la". In the meantime it's becoming more obvious why the government has spent or made provision for £6.1 billion in costs to cover what their own research has told them. All the while Eric in Bolton is still waiting for his cancer treatment follow up.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 19, 2019 12:44:20 GMT
Oh dear. A document that suggests what the 'worst case scenario' would be like eh? It's not like we haven't seen this before is it? There is probably another document that lists the 'middle case scenario', and another one listing the 'best case scenario', as that's what planners do. Funny how the 'leakers' only leaked the 'worst case scenario' document eh? The remainers are getting quite desperate now. As remainers, we can only deal with what's out there. Nobody can deal with "there probably is this that or the other", that's leaver speak for putting their fingers in their years and singing loudly "la la la la". In the meantime it's becoming more obvious why the government has spent or made provision for £6.1 billion in costs to cover what their own research has told them. All the while Eric in Bolton is still waiting for his cancer treatment follow up. As I said, and you totally ignored, we have heard all of this before from the 'official government research' and not a single 'worst case' event happened. None of them came even close.
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Post by stuart1974 on Aug 19, 2019 12:52:08 GMT
Relax guys, Trump will simply buy us as the 52nd State and turn us into a giant golf course.
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Post by baggins on Aug 20, 2019 10:51:07 GMT
Relax guys, Trump will simply buy us as the 52nd State and turn us into a giant golf course. Where's the 51st gone?
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Post by Deleted on Aug 20, 2019 10:56:21 GMT
Relax guys, Trump will simply buy us as the 52nd State and turn us into a giant golf course. Where's the 51st gone? Ah, that'll soon be Greenland
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Post by baggins on Aug 20, 2019 11:16:19 GMT
Ah, that'll soon be Greenland We're second choice behind Greenland?
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Post by Deleted on Aug 20, 2019 11:21:34 GMT
Ah, that'll soon be Greenland We're second choice behind Greenland? It's just that Greenland would get completed before us. But if Puerto Rico step in, we could be the 53rd State!
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Post by baggins on Aug 20, 2019 11:26:43 GMT
We're second choice behind Greenland? It's just that Greenland would get completed before us. But if Puerto Rico step in, we could be the 53rd State! We're less attractive than Puerto Rico? Christ alive.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 20, 2019 11:32:38 GMT
It's just that Greenland would get completed before us. But if Puerto Rico step in, we could be the 53rd State! We're less attractive than Puerto Rico? Christ alive. No surprise. Have you seen the women there?
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Post by baggins on Aug 20, 2019 11:40:03 GMT
We're less attractive than Puerto Rico? Christ alive. No surprise. Have you seen the women there? Not from the front no.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 20, 2019 11:47:26 GMT
No surprise. Have you seen the women there? Not from the front no. This is you, isn't it......
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Post by baggins on Aug 20, 2019 11:57:49 GMT
This is you, isn't it...... I've still got that tank top.
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