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Post by Deleted on Aug 10, 2018 14:05:49 GMT
There is a big difference in expressing a negative opinion on a forum and directly seeking to abuse a player on their personal social media. Would you like to see people talking on a forum about watching you have a crap day at work? Hate it when people trot this one out. Professional sports people get payed to entertain. |
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Post by knowall on Aug 10, 2018 14:10:58 GMT
This guy is obviously a class act - wouldn't it be nice if ALL our supporters were as well?
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Post by Somersetgas on Aug 10, 2018 14:12:07 GMT
detest this world we live in with people abusing others on social media thinking there's no consequences. tbf there aren't any consequences 99.9% of the time. Being on the end of some abuse, the path for retribution was very limited, but with the advent of the new GDPR rules, the "owners" of forums/social Media sites now have to be very careful about what is "posted" on their sites... Something i'm investigating with the help of a media savvy law firm as we speak Does this make moderating this forum harder for the moderators? Should they be looking at more posts and should they charge to use the site if that is the case. Your input would be most useful, I take it Before the 25th May anything is non GDPR, it is only anything after this date? |
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Post by knowall on Aug 10, 2018 14:12:16 GMT
Would you like to see people talking on a forum about watching you have a crap day at work? Hate it when people trot this one out. Professional sports people get payed to entertain. I don't think they are paid to be abused |
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Post by Gastafari on Aug 10, 2018 14:19:11 GMT
detest this world we live in with people abusing others on social media thinking there's no consequences. tbf there aren't any consequences 99.9% of the time. The Rovers FB pages are a prime example of that. People tagging Wael in stuff etc is completely unacceptable. I don't get why he's even on those pages in the first place! To be fair, Wael spends most of his time taking selfies with John Terry and posting them. |
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Post by peterparker on Aug 10, 2018 14:21:52 GMT
I hope some of our more challenged fans remember this when they are sending abuse directly to players on the likes of twitter and Instagram
No nonsense honest approach, hope he takes that out on the pitch too, looking forward to seeing this guy play He tweeted he was Mr 50/50, so sounds like he likes to put himself about |
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Post by simonj on Aug 10, 2018 14:22:04 GMT
Hate it when people trot this one out. Professional sports people get payed to entertain. I don't think they are paid to be abused Interesting though. They are professionals in their field, meaning they are on show for their abilities and commitment.
What is wrong, is not the disappointment we feel if they have a pants game (I think we can all make moment in time comments of that disappointment when we feel her in doors would have scored or saved that) but the continuous witch hunt week after week. Ellis is the perfect recent example, and fortunately for him, his coaching staff and his colleagues they knew differently to the 'small mob' whose vociferous and weekly demonstration on how useless they though he was, is just out of order. I keep my fingers crossed Nicholls also puts up a finger or two soon and gets the rub of the green and begins to notch.
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Post by faggotygas on Aug 10, 2018 14:23:20 GMT
Being on the end of some abuse, the path for retribution was very limited, but with the advent of the new GDPR rules, the "owners" of forums/social Media sites now have to be very careful about what is "posted" on their sites... Something i'm investigating with the help of a media savvy law firm as we speak Does this make moderating this forum harder for the moderators? Should they be looking at more posts and should they charge to use the site if that is the case. Your input would be most useful, I take it Before the 25th May anything is non GDPR, it is only anything after this date? Yes, as I imagine Henbury is referring to the wider responsibilities of Data Processors in the Data Protection Act 2018 |
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Post by Gastafari on Aug 10, 2018 14:23:26 GMT
Hate it when people trot this one out. Professional sports people get payed to entertain. I don't think they are paid to be abused I agree about abused. But criticised certainly. If Johnny Depps in a sh** film, he should expect to get critiqued. If a singer/Band put on a crap show likewise. If Footballers/Managers/Owners aren't doing their jobs well, again likewise. Personal abuse though is out of order, of course. |
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Post by Somersetgas on Aug 10, 2018 14:25:09 GMT
Does this make moderating this forum harder for the moderators? Should they be looking at more posts and should they charge to use the site if that is the case. Your input would be most useful, I take it Before the 25th May anything is non GDPR, it is only anything after this date? Yes, as I imagine Henbury is referring to the wider responsibilities of Data Processors in the Data Protection Act 2018 If it makes modding it harder should we not be paying a fee for their services? |
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Post by Henbury Gas on Aug 10, 2018 14:32:51 GMT
Being on the end of some abuse, the path for retribution was very limited, but with the advent of the new GDPR rules, the "owners" of forums/social Media sites now have to be very careful about what is "posted" on their sites... Something i'm investigating with the help of a media savvy law firm as we speak Does this make moderating this forum harder for the moderators? Should they be looking at more posts and should they charge to use the site if that is the case. Your input would be most useful, I take it Before the 25th May anything is non GDPR, it is only anything after this date? Thats is one i'm still trying to find out ! I know there is a "process" that has to be followed closely if you want to pursue a public forum/media site to get some action taken, which is what i'm doing at the moment. If you send an informal polite request to have information removed, most will do it, but if not a formal legal approach in the form of a letter from a solicitor will solve the problem, but you have to give them time to respond. I'm sure our mods would respond very quickly to any defamatory posts, like most other public forums. |
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Post by c4h10 on Aug 10, 2018 14:49:57 GMT
There is a big difference in expressing a negative opinion on a forum and directly seeking to abuse a player on their personal social media. Would you like to see people talking on a forum about watching you have a crap day at work? I must be a slow reader, because my mind was boggling before I read "day at work?". |
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Post by bb1883 on Aug 10, 2018 15:02:25 GMT
Hate it when people trot this one out. Professional sports people get payed to entertain. I don't think they are paid to be abused Working in the service industry, I can say people genuinely do not give a toss about how good or bad your day was, they will slag you off or praise whatever the circumstances and whatever your performance - so football is no different. Obviously this isn't a justification for poor attitudes towards anybody at work, but it's something that's extremely difficult - if not impossible - to eradicate. However, I'm sure most people can cope fine with all the flak they get. We are kidding ourselves if we think we can prevent these negative attitudes. That being said, seeing some of the comments made towards potential signings before they had even signed is a complete joke, given that these people are supposed supporters of our club and its players. |
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Post by Somersetgas on Aug 10, 2018 15:28:31 GMT
Does this make moderating this forum harder for the moderators? Should they be looking at more posts and should they charge to use the site if that is the case. Your input would be most useful, I take it Before the 25th May anything is non GDPR, it is only anything after this date? Thats is one i'm still trying to find out ! I know there is a "process" that has to be followed closely if you want to pursue a public forum/media site to get some action taken, which is what i'm doing at the moment. If you send an informal polite request to have information removed, most will do it, but if not a formal legal approach in the form of a letter from a solicitor will solve the problem, but you have to give them time to respond. I'm sure our mods would respond very quickly to any defamatory posts, like most other public forums. That is fair enough but how do we know what is true and what is a lie, where do the mods cross the line? Are they not leading themselves into trouble? |
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Post by stapletongas on Aug 10, 2018 15:42:28 GMT
Would you like to see people talking on a forum about watching you have a crap day at work? Hate it when people trot this one out. Professional sports people get payed to entertain. And many others are out there in non celeb jobs, public service perhaps? |
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Post by aghast on Aug 10, 2018 21:49:01 GMT
He talks about moving “closer to his family” but I thought it was said on here that they were in Yorkshire?? This has been done. They are in London!!! I hope his comments (about wanting to be closer to his family) will end the often-quoted nonsense about players not wanting to come here because it's too far from everywhere else. About an hour and a half from London sur le train. Easy Peasy. Whatever reasons there may be that we don't catch a good player, it's not because we are in Bristol. |
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Post by tommym9 on Aug 10, 2018 22:04:34 GMT
I don't think they are paid to be abused I agree about abused. But criticised certainly. If Johnny Depps in a sh** film, he should expect to get critiqued. If a singer/Band put on a crap show likewise. If Footballers/Managers/Owners aren't doing their jobs well, again likewise. Personal abuse though is out of order, of course. Thats the nail on the head. A critic might be scathing about a bands performance or a chefs meal, but not while they or playing or cooking and certainly not call them all the names under the sun. Some of the abuse players get is just not on. I don't care how much they are paid or whatever, no one should get some of the sh** I've seen online just cause they've had a bad game. |
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Post by yattongas on Aug 10, 2018 22:14:51 GMT
Every club has there fair share of d1ckheads .... think he’s about right with 10% . It’ll be the same here .
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Post by aghast on Aug 10, 2018 22:55:37 GMT
I would like to think the dickhead count on here is lower than on Facebook, twitter, or YouTube comments.
There you just post, laugh and run.
On here we post, laugh and debate.
And then Hugo bans you.
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Post by wider on Aug 10, 2018 22:58:07 GMT
Having spent 50 years working in construction with almost constant disappointments over deadlines, no-shows, and non-payments etc. etc. I learnt not to go shooting my mouth off until having all the facts..
Not being judgemental is difficult for many of us, especially when we feel so strongly about the Gas performances and how much we want them to do well. This wish and the subsequent disappointments are heartfelt by many but this does not give anyone the right to abuse anyone else.
Sadly I am becoming concerned that abuse has been increasing over recent years coinciding with the growth of social media. The problem is probably because we are no longer face to face whilst doing this, don’t think about the consequences nor rarely see or even hear of any.
I also fear a return of 70’s style hooliganism because of how the abuse online has grown, without apparent repercussions, plus two generations who never witnessed first hand the problems and how often innocent parties got caught up (and hurt!) in what was happening.
We as, hopefully, the sensible majority of caring fans need to make sure we continue to praise where praise is due and refuse to tolerate abuse at the games or on here.
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