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Post by Captain Jayho on Sept 8, 2018 22:42:08 GMT
So it's going to have 2 artificial pitches, and one grass pitch. Between all the listed teams and us?? Loads seem happy if the rumours are true. But if it's someone coming in, trying to get any deal done with Uwe, then does not necessarily mean it will be better for them. If we are renting a training pitch still and giving a lot of the Uwe takings to Uwe. Could we end up as the next Coventry? If the deal wasn't right fit us, why will it be, just because someone else is interested?? This is a fair point. Kind of worrying that the implication seems to be the potential new owners are doing this so they can get their hands on the Mem site to sell. Not exactly ideal motives for BRFC going forward into the future if true, and once you take away what is 'owed' to the Al Qadis. Obviously it's all pure speculation at the moment but definitely worth bearing in mind. And I may have completely mis-understood what the whispers on here have been saying as well of course.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 8, 2018 22:48:47 GMT
So it's going to have 2 artificial pitches, and one grass pitch. Between all the listed teams and us?? Loads seem happy if the rumours are true. But if it's someone coming in, trying to get any deal done with Uwe, then does not necessarily mean it will be better for them. If we are renting a training pitch still and giving a lot of the Uwe takings to Uwe. Could we end up as the next Coventry? If the deal wasn't right fit us, why will it be, just because someone else is interested?? The problem is that the club is now in the clutches of a family who have no interest in football, so they will really not care who they sell us to so in many ways it isn't worth worrying about because there is little we can do. This is the very issue with foreign ownership. I am sure Wael will want the club to be in safe hands but I am also sure he has little say in this process and the family will sell to whoever gives them the best deal. All we can do is wait for the dust to settle and hope that the buyer at least has some desire to reap the monetary rewards higher up the football pyramid. Hence why I would personally hope Ed Ware is part of any takeover although it sounds like others disagree.
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Post by Captain Jayho on Sept 8, 2018 22:55:14 GMT
So it's going to have 2 artificial pitches, and one grass pitch. Between all the listed teams and us?? Loads seem happy if the rumours are true. But if it's someone coming in, trying to get any deal done with Uwe, then does not necessarily mean it will be better for them. If we are renting a training pitch still and giving a lot of the Uwe takings to Uwe. Could we end up as the next Coventry? If the deal wasn't right fit us, why will it be, just because someone else is interested?? The problem is that the club is now in the clutches of a family who have no interest in football, so they will really not care who they sell us to so in many ways it isn't worth worrying about because there is little we can do. This is the very issue with foreign ownership. I am sure Wael will want the club to be in safe hands but I am also sure he has little say in this process and the family will sell to whoever gives them the best deal. All we can do is wait for the dust to settle and hope that the buyer at least has some desire to reap the monetary rewards higher up the football pyramid. Hence why I would personally hope Ed Ware is part of any takeover although it sounds like others disagree. You are probably right. Hopefully the rumours that Wael wishes to stay on as a director are true as whatever people think of the way the current incumbents have progressed things in their tenure I think most can agree that Wael wants the best for the club and is invested in us personally (if not as financially as we would like!). It may be useful to have him fighting our corner in the future so I for one hope he can stay on in some capacity.
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Post by Feeling The Blues on Sept 8, 2018 23:09:55 GMT
So it's going to have 2 artificial pitches, and one grass pitch. Between all the listed teams and us?? Loads seem happy if the rumours are true. But if it's someone coming in, trying to get any deal done with Uwe, then does not necessarily mean it will be better for them. If we are renting a training pitch still and giving a lot of the Uwe takings to Uwe. Could we end up as the next Coventry? If the deal wasn't right fit us, why will it be, just because someone else is interested?? Daniel you confuse “us” with the owners of “us”. The deal with UWE might have been good for us but the owners of us didn’t think it was right for them and didn’t want to invest their money.
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Post by Dirt Dogg on Sept 8, 2018 23:18:00 GMT
I know who the new owner is, don't want to spread any rumours but let's just say the deal is 'watertight' 👀 Do you know enough about the new owner, to have an opinion about whether this is likely to be good for Rovers long term? Without wanting to sound ITK, all I've heard is that a deal has been reached between the Al-Qadi family and the new owners and that the new owners have agreed to finance much needed facilities (sound familiar) could potentially be some standard terrace gossip but seems to have some sort of truth surrounding it, I guess only time will tell!
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Post by daniel300380 on Sept 8, 2018 23:21:41 GMT
So it's going to have 2 artificial pitches, and one grass pitch. Between all the listed teams and us?? Loads seem happy if the rumours are true. But if it's someone coming in, trying to get any deal done with Uwe, then does not necessarily mean it will be better for them. If we are renting a training pitch still and giving a lot of the Uwe takings to Uwe. Could we end up as the next Coventry? If the deal wasn't right fit us, why will it be, just because someone else is interested?? Daniel you confuse “us” with the owners of “us”. The deal with UWE might of been good for us but the owners of us didn’t think it was right for them and didn’t want to invest their money. If it's good for the club, it's good for them. If it makes us money, it makes them money and they could sell us for more etc. When would it be good for us and not them???
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Post by Feeling The Blues on Sept 8, 2018 23:48:39 GMT
Daniel you confuse “us” with the owners of “us”. The deal with UWE might of been good for us but the owners of us didn’t think it was right for them and didn’t want to invest their money. If it's good for the club, it's good for them. If it makes us money, it makes them money and they could sell us for more etc. When would it be good for us and not them??? No it’s not the same. It might have been good for the club to do the deal with UWE but the owners of the club didn’t want to invest in the club the necessary capital because it wouldn’t pay them back the dividend that they personally wanted in the time scale they personally wanted. It doesn’t mean it wouldn’t have been good for the club. Higgs who no one can deny is actually a Rovers supporter (unlike the ALQ family) did plenty of things that it turns out weren’t good for the club. For instance he mortgaged the ground to Wonga in pursuit of a lost cause court case v Sainsbury’s. This was a bad decision that could have bankrupted us or made us homeless made by the owner of the club, not in the best interests of the club. if you want other examples there are plenty of people who buy a company or even a football club - read the recent history of Brighton and Hove Albion - and act in direct detriment to the good of the entity they own in favour of personal gain. Now I’m not putting Wael in the same bracket as the dastardly Bill Archer erstwhile of Brighton but he could quite easily not act in the best interests of the club because he doesn’t have the power to do so and his family don’t have or want to invest what would be necessary to pursue the opportunity that they had with UWE despite it being in the long term best interests of the club.
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Post by Henbury Gas on Sept 9, 2018 1:47:53 GMT
Haven't you ever bought something, and then just bunged it in the cupboard? I've got a pair of suede brogues I've never worn. That's the trouble with you, no taste, no style! Suede brogues? Shee-it. I have a suggestion. Pass them on to Henbury. You can garantee he will be sashaying around Chasers in them,on the pull at the weekly Grab a Granny night! You know me too well, are you my Brother ?
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Post by Hugo the Elder on Sept 9, 2018 5:30:00 GMT
No one seems to know who the new people are.
Any guesses?
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Post by yattongas on Sept 9, 2018 6:39:02 GMT
No one seems to know who the new people are. Any guesses? Someone said something about Isle of Man 🇮🇲, so it must be Nigel Mansell..... and he’s roped in Damon Hill and Lewis Hamilton . We’re going places ! Round and round in circles.
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Post by Langford Gas on Sept 9, 2018 6:41:15 GMT
No one seems to know who the new people are. Any guesses? Hugo I was told something to do with a commercial not domestic construction company based in Southampton,DC was apparently told last week, the UWE will be a 125 year lease and the Mem will be sold to cover the debts. Alledgedly Hani wants his money back pronto. The point is. like everyone else on here I'm fed up with false dawns and don't post on these matters, other than to fish on the original post in this thread, However, as i have said earlier,the source yesterday is impeccable and if he is wrong I will lose what remaining faith I have in human nature ! Thats not to say he knows all the finer details of the deal, or whether new owners wlll be better or worse than anyone we have ever had. For me the writing was on the wall when nothing happened with the colony, esp with our current arrangement ending in the very near future, in fiscal term relatively small beer compared to building a stadium etc yet for owners who were in it for the long term and "funding isn't a problem" they stalled and came up with excuse after excuse and then silence. UWE have obtained planning and gone on to almost complete the build of hillside gardens within a few months Purely my opinion, but based on rumours I had previously heard from other sources Wael wanted the interview with 20man because i believe he thought he would have some news ,but he jumped the gun. I have heard it said that the sticking point was that he wanted to keep 10% shares but allegedly UWE don't want any of the family involved. Which if true would suggest that UWE might have an interest of involvement in the club as a major shareholder. I firmly believe that if Wael was in possession of a vast fortune he would have pursued his dream with enthusiasm, sadly he is not and just one voice amongst others that don't have the same passion. But I do not doubt his sincerity when it comes to his feelings for our club. Also interesting BOX 1 was packed with the old guard yesterday BUT the last para is my personal opinion and pure speculation on my part
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Post by Hugo the Elder on Sept 9, 2018 6:57:05 GMT
No one seems to know who the new people are. Any guesses? Hugo I was told something to do with a commercial not domestic construction company based in Southampton,DC was apparently told last week, the UWE will be a 125 year lease and the Mem will be sold to cover the debts. Alledgedly Hani wants his money back pronto. The point is. like everyone else on here I'm fed up with false dawns and don't post on these matters, other than to fish on the original post in this thread, However, as i have said earlier,the source yesterday is impeccable and if he is wrong I will lose what remaining faith I have in human nature ! Thats not to say he knows all the finer details of the deal, or whether new owners wlll be better or worse than anyone we have ever had. For me the writing was on the wall when nothing happened with the colony, esp with our current arrangement ending in the very near future, in fiscal term relatively small beer compared to building a stadium etc yet for owners who were in it for the long term and "funding isn't a problem" they stalled and came up with excuse after excuse and then silence. UWE have obtained planning and gone on to almost complete the build of hillside gardens within a few months Purely my opinion, but based on rumours I had previously heard from other sources Wael wanted the interview with 20man because i believe he thought he would have some news ,but he jumped the gun. I have heard it said that the sticking point was that he wanted to keep 10% shares but allegedly UWE don't want any of the family involved. Which if true would suggest that UWE might have an interest of involvement in the club as a major shareholder. I firmly believe that if Wael was in possession of a vast fortune he would have pursued his dream with enthusiasm, sadly he is not and just one voice amongst others that don't have the same passion. But I do not doubt his sincerity when it comes to his feelings for our club. Also interesting BOX 1 was packed with the old guard yesterday BUT the last para is my personal opinion and pure speculation on my partI've heard and thought much the same as you and also thought it best not to speculate on here but now it's out there.... I don't read much into the Box 1 thing since WAQ is said to have moved to Box 10
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Post by blueridge on Sept 9, 2018 7:05:29 GMT
Hugo I was told something to do with a commercial not domestic construction company based in Southampton,DC was apparently told last week, the UWE will be a 125 year lease and the Mem will be sold to cover the debts. Alledgedly Hani wants his money back pronto. The point is. like everyone else on here I'm fed up with false dawns and don't post on these matters, other than to fish on the original post in this thread, However, as i have said earlier,the source yesterday is impeccable and if he is wrong I will lose what remaining faith I have in human nature ! Thats not to say he knows all the finer details of the deal, or whether new owners wlll be better or worse than anyone we have ever had. For me the writing was on the wall when nothing happened with the colony, esp with our current arrangement ending in the very near future, in fiscal term relatively small beer compared to building a stadium etc yet for owners who were in it for the long term and "funding isn't a problem" they stalled and came up with excuse after excuse and then silence. UWE have obtained planning and gone on to almost complete the build of hillside gardens within a few months Purely my opinion, but based on rumours I had previously heard from other sources Wael wanted the interview with 20man because i believe he thought he would have some news ,but he jumped the gun. I have heard it said that the sticking point was that he wanted to keep 10% shares but allegedly UWE don't want any of the family involved. Which if true would suggest that UWE might have an interest of involvement in the club as a major shareholder. I firmly believe that if Wael was in possession of a vast fortune he would have pursued his dream with enthusiasm, sadly he is not and just one voice amongst others that don't have the same passion. But I do not doubt his sincerity when it comes to his feelings for our club. Also interesting BOX 1 was packed with the old guard yesterday BUT the last para is my personal opinion and pure speculation on my partI've heard and thought much the same as you and also thought it best not to speculate on here but now it's out there.... I don't read much into the Box 1 thing since WAQ is said to have moved to Box 10 No linkage here between a major construction company and NH by any chance?
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Post by Hugo the Elder on Sept 9, 2018 7:10:52 GMT
I don't believe so, no.
I don't think any of the old guard are involved.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 9, 2018 7:14:32 GMT
The yanks are coming to save us
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Post by dinsdale on Sept 9, 2018 7:18:27 GMT
We have to persue this deal with uwe and i would rather die trying to make us a success then settle for the state we have been in for my entire lifetime.
No more Dam tented village. Selling our best players for peanuts and watching every other league club leapfrog us in facilities and ambition.
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Post by peterparker on Sept 9, 2018 7:21:24 GMT
So the new owners will build UWE, the Al Qadis will get the Mem.
They wont be Rovers fans will they, but not foreign, unless Ed Ware and his Merchant Venturer mates are involved
Who will own UWE Stadium and how much will the football club get back after the new owners take their repayment cut and UWE take whatever they want and on land we dont own
So just as many questions as always and pretty much the sort of questions when Nick Higgs and UWE announced the project in the first place
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Post by dinsdale on Sept 9, 2018 7:23:20 GMT
So the new owners will build UWE, the Al Qadis will get the Mem. They wont be Rovers fans will they, but not foreign, unless Ed Ware and his Merchant Venturer mates are involved Who will own UWE Stadium and how much will the football club get back after the new owners take their repayment cut and UWE take whatever they want and on land we dont own So just as many questions as always and pretty much the sort of questions when Nick Higgs and UWE announced the project in the first place Plan was always for us to own it but lease the land its on
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Post by Deleted on Sept 9, 2018 7:26:43 GMT
The yanks are coming to save us Don't let any Swansea supporters hear that. Their Yank owners have not endeared them to their fans. They are refusing to answer any questions from their fans trust about all matters including where has all the money gone. The owners then compounded the situation by saying they would talk to the trust's Chairman,but only if he signed a non disclosure order before hand. Big trouble ahead it would seem.
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Post by bluegas on Sept 9, 2018 7:29:20 GMT
So the new owners will build UWE, the Al Qadis will get the Mem. They wont be Rovers fans will they, but not foreign, unless Ed Ware and his Merchant Venturer mates are involved Who will own UWE Stadium and how much will the football club get back after the new owners take their repayment cut and UWE take whatever they want and on land we dont own So just as many questions as always and pretty much the sort of questions when Nick Higgs and UWE announced the project in the first place Plan was always for us to own it but lease the land its on An offer we can't possibly refuse then....
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