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Post by Topper Gas on Sept 19, 2018 7:13:48 GMT
Assuming it's true then have they just re-submitted the original stadium plans or amended plans to now include whatever the ALQ's were intending building? The original plans were submitted by Bristol Rovers, not the UWE..... just sayin' I know hence why I said "assuming it's true" but we leave in hope plus the UWE were recently trying to meet the original planning obligations rather than the club/the owners.
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Post by lpgas on Sept 19, 2018 10:42:52 GMT
Two interviews ago Mr Wael was asked about the new stadium plans and said something about new hand driers in the toilets and the club shop as if that would satisfy our longing. I felt for him at the time as he squirmed knowing that wasn't what we wanted to hear. He has since said something about having 12 experts on hand who build World class stadiums or something similar when the Colony hasn't had even a portacabin installed.The latest tent has not materialised so sadly I am now in the 'Lost faith in the owners' camp.Will still support the Gas but won't be down Sat as it's been just too painful to watch so far this season. I was the one that told Wael we needed new hand dryers
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Post by lpgas on Sept 19, 2018 10:44:11 GMT
Deal to sell club is virtually a done deal. New owners will be a construction company from Hampshire plus Ed Ware and Nick Higgs like I mentioned earlier. Stadium back on course with a better deal than previous. Construction company will build stadium at no cost to club who will own it in exchange for Mem. They will cover costs by building a large number of houses on Mem site. Wael to retain 10% shares. That is what I heard today, not sure how accurate...dont shoot the messenger! All sounds good, hopefully this is made public soon, we need some positivity around the club again and the feel that we are moving forward. If it sounds too good to be true then...……………………………...
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Post by Deleted on Sept 19, 2018 10:44:44 GMT
Two interviews ago Mr Wael was asked about the new stadium plans and said something about new hand driers in the toilets and the club shop as if that would satisfy our longing. I felt for him at the time as he squirmed knowing that wasn't what we wanted to hear. He has since said something about having 12 experts on hand who build World class stadiums or something similar when the Colony hasn't had even a portacabin installed.The latest tent has not materialised so sadly I am now in the 'Lost faith in the owners' camp.Will still support the Gas but won't be down Sat as it's been just too painful to watch so far this season. I was the one that told Wael we needed new hand dryers Then why the hell didn't you mention the new CF, CH and LB?
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Post by lpgas on Sept 19, 2018 10:46:38 GMT
I was the one that told Wael we needed new hand dryers Then why the hell didn't you mention the new CF, CH and LB? It slipped my mind, as a lot of things do nowadays
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Post by lpgas on Sept 19, 2018 10:47:17 GMT
Who is this "rumour" that needs putting to bed. Can she walk and talk?
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Post by gasandelectricity on Sept 19, 2018 10:51:01 GMT
I expect it’ll take a few days or weeks before the portal gets updated.
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Post by Henbury Gas on Sept 19, 2018 10:58:34 GMT
My Understanding was that this work listed was an enabling upgrade and as such the UWE planning was now extant
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Post by Smithy Gas on Sept 19, 2018 11:14:00 GMT
My Understanding was that this work listed was an enabling upgrade and as such the UWE planning was now extant Its been gone over before, but this was a discharge of conditions application relating to the stadium. It is clearly stated in the last correspondence on the application that all of the work needed to be carried out and implemented for the two remaining conditions, before a deadline in January, for the permission to be extant. There is no other correspondence after that confirming the works took place or that the conditions were discharged. Therefore you have to assume this deadline wasn't met and the permission is not extant.
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Post by dave1883gas on Sept 19, 2018 11:16:49 GMT
My Understanding was that this work listed was an enabling upgrade and as such the UWE planning was now extant Looking at the documents it said two conditions were cleared in Jan 18 but there was still one requiring clearing and there was a deadline of a couple of days to get that sorted. As there are no other docs on file to show this was cleared I suppose the assumption would be that it was never cleared and therefore permission expired. It could be that it was cleared and no docs were filed to show this. I would imagine if someone has agreed to take over the club on the basis suggested they would be pretty confident that planning was in situ / a relative surety before they confirmed the deal or they could be in a whole heap of trouble if there is a hitch. The interesting one is that if the deal is done on the basis of an exchange for the Mem which would be sold and built out on a residential basis they would also need a very high degree of certainty that planning for that development was also in place or very close to being in place.
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Post by Henbury Gas on Sept 19, 2018 11:17:47 GMT
My Understanding was that this work listed was an enabling upgrade and as such the UWE planning was now extant Its been gone over before, but this was a discharge of conditions application relating to the stadium. It is clearly stated in the last correspondence on the application that all of the work needed to be carried out and implemented for the two remaining conditions, before a deadline in January, for the permission to be extant. There is no other correspondence after that confirming the works took place or that the conditions were discharged. Therefore you have to assume this deadline wasn't met and the permission is not extant. except in exceptional circumstances ................
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Post by Smithy Gas on Sept 19, 2018 11:20:23 GMT
Its been gone over before, but this was a discharge of conditions application relating to the stadium. It is clearly stated in the last correspondence on the application that all of the work needed to be carried out and implemented for the two remaining conditions, before a deadline in January, for the permission to be extant. There is no other correspondence after that confirming the works took place or that the conditions were discharged. Therefore you have to assume this deadline wasn't met and the permission is not extant. except in exceptional circumstances ................ What exceptional circumstance would break planning law?
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Post by Henbury Gas on Sept 19, 2018 11:21:15 GMT
except in exceptional circumstances ................ What exceptional circumstance would break planning law? Application to the minister of state ?
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Post by Hugo the Elder on Sept 19, 2018 11:22:08 GMT
If the plans haven't really changed much surely you can just reapply and have it fast tracked?
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Post by Topper Gas on Sept 19, 2018 11:22:32 GMT
Its been gone over before, but this was a discharge of conditions application relating to the stadium. It is clearly stated in the last correspondence on the application that all of the work needed to be carried out and implemented for the two remaining conditions, before a deadline in January, for the permission to be extant. There is no other correspondence after that confirming the works took place or that the conditions were discharged. Therefore you have to assume this deadline wasn't met and the permission is not extant. except in exceptional circumstances ................ Such as S Glos being desperate for a 22,000 capacity stadium to be built in their area?
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Post by Henbury Gas on Sept 19, 2018 11:23:23 GMT
If the plans haven't really changed much surely you can just reapply and have it fast tracked? the only things that would need major change would be the H&S element as that has changed a lot of the last few years
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Post by Smithy Gas on Sept 19, 2018 11:28:45 GMT
I mean, it's not really how it works but grasp at those straws. They had five years to make the permission extant and didn't. They then had time to extend the permission but didn't.
If someone at UWE has reapplied (not live yet but can't be discounted) then that would confirm that the permission isn't extant.
If a new application is in, it won't be fast tracked either - however much everyone wants it, there is still a process to go through and things have changed since we last applied in 2012.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 19, 2018 11:30:15 GMT
If the plans haven't really changed much surely you can just reapply and have it fast tracked? the only things that would need major change would be the H&S element as that has changed a lot of the last few years I have to disagree with you there. In my humble opinion M&S hasn't changed at all in the last few years !
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Post by Henbury Gas on Sept 19, 2018 11:33:48 GMT
the only things that would need major change would be the H&S element as that has changed a lot of the last few years I have to disagree with you there. In my humble opinion M&S hasn't changed at all in the last few years ! well we know you are quite backward over in Germany.....
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Post by lavalamp on Sept 19, 2018 11:36:40 GMT
Anyone heard what date in October we are expecting this announcement?
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