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Post by gassygas on Oct 21, 2018 17:59:17 GMT
Sorry, but I hate threads like this. All fans think the officials are against them, and only ever see the decisions that go against them while ignoring the decisions in their favour. No one said the ref was against us. We've been saying he was sh**. What did you think of him? opening post was clearly suggesting that the ref was making an effort to show he wasn't biased towards us, the implication being that he went too far the other way. No, I didn't think he was very good, but no worse than most of the players to be fair.
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Post by Gasshole on Oct 21, 2018 20:18:59 GMT
Officially sh1t
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Post by Strange Gas on Oct 21, 2018 20:32:13 GMT
Agree, dreadful. But I think he could see much horseplay coming from the OU no 19 and early on showed he wasn't going to put up with that which was good but then was very clumsy in how he managed the game to deal with that. I think refs like him often try to show they are in control and at same time be even handed and so end up making silly calls in the interest of making a point and keeping both teams equally treated like kids. And that made them behave like kids even more. Trouble is it creates a stop start and is sh** to watch! Classic lower league football, get used to it people!
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Post by Deleted on Oct 21, 2018 20:46:08 GMT
The best referees are the ones you don't notice. Maybe this guy was better last season v Southend but yesterday it was impossible to miss him. Problem was also that Oxford played him like a guitar and he wasn't clever enough to notice. Perhaps we need to get street wise although I hate the principle, if you can't beat em join em ! Perhaps we should scout the ref prior to the game and learn from that how to play the referee to get the bulk of decisions. I assume we had scouts reports on how Oxford play, but still set up with the wrong formation and tactics.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 21, 2018 22:00:27 GMT
Perhaps we should scout the ref prior to the game and learn from that how to play the referee to get the bulk of decisions. I assume we had scouts reports on how Oxford play, but still set up with the wrong formation and tactics. Did we though? Or did our full backs just fail to provide the width that the system was set up for them to give? The diamond isn't a bad set up, but it needs the full backs to get forward, which they failed to do in the first half. Or did we just retain the ball really badly? Misplaced passes aren't a result of a particular formation. I agree we were far better after the break, but do wonder if we get a bit bogged down with formations at times. Sometimes it will be that, but sometimes it's the players not playing as they should.
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Post by Hugo the Elder on Oct 22, 2018 8:51:35 GMT
No one is complaining about Craig's block/handball that could easily have been a penalty.
I thought the Ref was poor, but he was poor equally.
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Post by stigofthegas on Oct 22, 2018 10:13:31 GMT
No one is complaining about Craig's block/handball that could easily have been a penalty. I thought the Ref was poor, but he was poor equally. I agree with this.
One of the call's is for ref's to be consistent, this guy didn't even ref it the same in the two halves. I think he must have had a word with himself as was suggested to him as he walked off at half time !!!
He blew for everything in the fist half and threw his yellow card around like confetti at a wedding. In the second half he didn't even give free kicks for things he would have yellow-carded in the first half. It was a better game as a result in the second half as the game was allowed to flow.
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Post by Blueside on Oct 22, 2018 11:42:09 GMT
Agree, dreadful. But I think he could see much horseplay coming from the OU no 19 and early on showed he wasn't going to put up with that which was good but then was very clumsy in how he managed the game to deal with that. I think refs like him often try to show they are in control and at same time be even handed and so end up making silly calls in the interest of making a point and keeping both teams equally treated like kids. And that made them behave like kids even more. Trouble is it creates a stop start and is sh** to watch! Classic lower league football, get used to it people! 100 % this. I agree with Antonio's post and this one. I also agree that we don't often see what the ref gives FOR us, but Saturday's first half was a joke - quite how we ended up with two yellows, the second for which was a perfectly good tackle (Sercombe or Clarke?) and the ref had barely even had a word with any of their players I'm not too sure. Having said that, when these things happen and the ref "has a word with himself", sometimes he feels (subconsciously - I'm not suggesting cheating) things need to be balanced up. I've seen it before when we spend 89 minutes of a game getting nothing from the ref and end up being gifted a penalty. I honestly believed that if we could have got it into their box on Saturday then we he was going to give us a pen.
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Post by baggins on Oct 22, 2018 11:46:40 GMT
Agree, dreadful. But I think he could see much horseplay coming from the OU no 19 and early on showed he wasn't going to put up with that which was good but then was very clumsy in how he managed the game to deal with that. I think refs like him often try to show they are in control and at same time be even handed and so end up making silly calls in the interest of making a point and keeping both teams equally treated like kids. And that made them behave like kids even more. Trouble is it creates a stop start and is sh** to watch! Classic lower league football, get used to it people! 100 % this. I agree with Antonio's post and this one. I also agree that we don't often see what the ref gives FOR us, but Saturday's first half was a joke - quite how we ended up with two yellows, the second for which was a perfectly good tackle (Sercombe or Clarke?) and the ref had barely even had a word with any of their players I'm not too sure. Having said that, when these things happen and the ref "has a word with himself", sometimes he feels (subconsciously - I'm not suggesting cheating) things need to be balanced up. I've seen it before when we spend 89 minutes of a game getting nothing from the ref and end up being gifted a penalty. I honestly believed that if we could have got it into their box on Saturday then we he was going to give us a pen. Penalty? What's one of them then?
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Post by hollyhillgas on Oct 22, 2018 13:35:27 GMT
Our performance has been covered elsewhere but how the hell do we do consistently get such poor officials at the mem? I remember reading sone time ago (probably on here) that referees going up the leagues or being fast tracked are given our home games so that assessors can see how they react to (relatively) large crowds. If that's the case now then I feel it is working against us as they try to show they are not biased - that's the only way I can explain the idiot 'in charge' yesterday. Even the assistants didn't have a hat so how could they see when facing the sun. The fact that we had no officials at the world cup to and says a lot too. It's amazing how many assistants don't have a cap, I remember one borrowing a cap from the Rovers physio, despite me advising him to make the lino buy one from the club shop. The Ref did improve second half, I'm sure sometimes the assistants have a go at a Ref at halftime if they think he's having a bad game, no different to players and managers.
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Post by South Stand Ultra on Oct 22, 2018 13:57:35 GMT
No one is complaining about Craig's block/handball that could easily have been a penalty. I thought the Ref was poor, but he was poor equally. This!
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Post by matealotblue on Oct 22, 2018 14:05:04 GMT
100 % this. I agree with Antonio's post and this one. I also agree that we don't often see what the ref gives FOR us, but Saturday's first half was a joke - quite how we ended up with two yellows, the second for which was a perfectly good tackle (Sercombe or Clarke?) and the ref had barely even had a word with any of their players I'm not too sure. Having said that, when these things happen and the ref "has a word with himself", sometimes he feels (subconsciously - I'm not suggesting cheating) things need to be balanced up. I've seen it before when we spend 89 minutes of a game getting nothing from the ref and end up being gifted a penalty. I honestly believed that if we could have got it into their box on Saturday then we he was going to give us a pen. Penalty? What's one of them then? Having forwards that can’t score....
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Post by CrispPusher on Oct 22, 2018 14:50:58 GMT
Had to laugh when he stopped the game for a drinks break, in October! My mate was also convinced the 4th official advised the ref to award a free kick moments before?
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