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Post by pirate on Dec 16, 2018 1:44:43 GMT
I'm going to nail my colours to the mast and say I think Ben Garner should get the managers job here if he wants it. Yesterday he was 16/1 with certain bookmakers. As Tony Pulis has said of him in the past: “Ben has it in him to one day step into the manager’s role. He’s got the potential.” He has worked at close quarters with some good people like Holloway, Pulis, Warnock, Pardew, Venables, Lennie Lawrence and Gerry Francis, will have surely built up a good contact list and with his reputation in the game managers will be willing to send loan players to us as they know they will be entering a good working environment and receive top class coaching. He helped bring through talents such as Victor Moses, Nathaniel Clyne, Wilfried Zaha, Sean Scannell and Jonny Williams at Crystal Palace. He has gone on to coach 200 games at the senior level – most of them in the Premier League. During 2012/2013 season he was promoted to Crystal Palace First Team Coach under then manager Ian Holloway. On 27 May 2013 Crystal Palace were promoted to the Premier League after beating Watford 1-0 AET at Wembley in the Championship Play-Off Final. Garner remained as First Team Coach in the 2013/2014 season when Tony Pulis was appointed as Ian Holloway’s successor on 23 November 2013. Crystal Palace retained their Premier League status for the first time in the club’s history finishing in 11th place and Pulis won the LMA Manager of the Year award. Has the UEFA PRO licence and the LMA Diploma in Management, as well as a having a degree in sports science and a diploma in neuro-linguistic programming, he has learned Spanish. He was linked with the Nottingham Forest and Bradford City jobs and I think he could prove a good short and long term appointment for us. en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ben_Garnerwww.londonnewsonline.co.uk/ex-palace-coach-garner-has-the-know-how-to-manage-at-the-highest-level/footballcoaching.co.nz/ben-garner-previous-premier-league-first-team-coach-uk/the72.co.uk/115156/ben-garner-bradford-citys-potential-new-manager/
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Post by Squiffy on Dec 16, 2018 7:04:30 GMT
Loving the fact that, like the players you bring to our attention, you have stats on potential managers who are currently off the radar of us lesser mortals. As has been mentioned elsewhere, if someone has a track record of achieving survival from a difficult situation then that has to be the most compelling attribute at this moment. Interesting call though. I don’t suppose you have a database of potential owners? 😂
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Post by Deleted on Dec 16, 2018 8:20:48 GMT
I'm going to nail my colours to the mast and say I think Ben Garner should get the managers job here if he wants it. Yesterday he was 16/1 with certain bookmakers. As Tony Pulis has said of him in the past: “Ben has it in him to one day step into the manager’s role. He’s got the potential.” He has worked at close quarters with some good people like Holloway, Pulis, Warnock, Pardew, Venables, Lennie Lawrence and Gerry Francis, will have surely built up a good contact list and with his reputation in the game managers will be willing to send loan players to us as they know they will be entering a good working environment and receive top class coaching. He helped bring through talents such as Victor Moses, Nathaniel Clyne, Wilfried Zaha, Sean Scannell and Jonny Williams at Crystal Palace. He has gone on to coach 200 games at the senior level – most of them in the Premier League. During 2012/2013 season he was promoted to Crystal Palace First Team Coach under then manager Ian Holloway. On 27 May 2013 Crystal Palace were promoted to the Premier League after beating Watford 1-0 AET at Wembley in the Championship Play-Off Final. Garner remained as First Team Coach in the 2013/2014 season when Tony Pulis was appointed as Ian Holloway’s successor on 23 November 2013. Crystal Palace retained their Premier League status for the first time in the club’s history finishing in 11th place and Pulis won the LMA Manager of the Year award. Has the UEFA PRO licence and the LMA Diploma in Management, as well as a having a degree in sports science and a diploma in neuro-linguistic programming, he has learned Spanish. He was linked with the Nottingham Forest and Bradford City jobs and I think he could prove a good short and long term appointment for us. en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ben_Garnerwww.londonnewsonline.co.uk/ex-palace-coach-garner-has-the-know-how-to-manage-at-the-highest-level/footballcoaching.co.nz/ben-garner-previous-premier-league-first-team-coach-uk/the72.co.uk/115156/ben-garner-bradford-citys-potential-new-manager/I admit to having known little about him (until now!) but he does sound like a very strong candidate. Thanks for posting this.
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Post by Topper Gas on Dec 16, 2018 8:39:03 GMT
It would be totally madness in my view to employ someone with either no managerial or at least past Rovers experience. If the owners get this appointment wrong then we'll be back in Div 2 looking at attendances of 5,000/6,000 next season.
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Post by warehamgas on Dec 16, 2018 8:51:03 GMT
I think he was mentioned in an earlier post but thanks pirate for the detail. I’ve always thought we should be looking at league 2 and National for managers on the way up rather than those who’ve failed and are on the merry go round. I fear someone like Phil Brown or the like. Ben Garner or his type would seem a much better fit for us. Don’t know anything about him but that’s helped. UTG!
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Post by madgas on Dec 16, 2018 10:31:08 GMT
I'm going to nail my colours to the mast and say I think Ben Garner should get the managers job here if he wants it. Yesterday he was 16/1 with certain bookmakers. As Tony Pulis has said of him in the past: “Ben has it in him to one day step into the manager’s role. He’s got the potential.” He has worked at close quarters with some good people like Holloway, Pulis, Warnock, Pardew, Venables, Lennie Lawrence and Gerry Francis, will have surely built up a good contact list and with his reputation in the game managers will be willing to send loan players to us as they know they will be entering a good working environment and receive top class coaching. He helped bring through talents such as Victor Moses, Nathaniel Clyne, Wilfried Zaha, Sean Scannell and Jonny Williams at Crystal Palace. He has gone on to coach 200 games at the senior level – most of them in the Premier League. During 2012/2013 season he was promoted to Crystal Palace First Team Coach under then manager Ian Holloway. On 27 May 2013 Crystal Palace were promoted to the Premier League after beating Watford 1-0 AET at Wembley in the Championship Play-Off Final. Garner remained as First Team Coach in the 2013/2014 season when Tony Pulis was appointed as Ian Holloway’s successor on 23 November 2013. Crystal Palace retained their Premier League status for the first time in the club’s history finishing in 11th place and Pulis won the LMA Manager of the Year award. Has the UEFA PRO licence and the LMA Diploma in Management, as well as a having a degree in sports science and a diploma in neuro-linguistic programming, he has learned Spanish. He was linked with the Nottingham Forest and Bradford City jobs and I think he could prove a good short and long term appointment for us. en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ben_Garnerwww.londonnewsonline.co.uk/ex-palace-coach-garner-has-the-know-how-to-manage-at-the-highest-level/footballcoaching.co.nz/ben-garner-previous-premier-league-first-team-coach-uk/the72.co.uk/115156/ben-garner-bradford-citys-potential-new-manager/What would you say on Mark Robbins? His Swindon team played great football getting to the playoff final in league one a couple years back. Used to working with loans and a budget.
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Post by Antonio Fargas on Dec 16, 2018 10:32:50 GMT
and a diploma in neuro-linguistic programming, "Kick it! Kick it! Kick it"
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Post by Antonio Fargas on Dec 16, 2018 10:34:12 GMT
Loving the fact that, like the players you bring to our attention, you have stats on potential managers who are currently off the radar of us lesser mortals. As has been mentioned elsewhere, if someone has a track record of achieving survival from a difficult situation then that has to be the most compelling attribute at this moment. Interesting call though. I don’t suppose you have a database of potential owners? 😂 Owners? He's even got a database of fans. Pirate, what do you think of Dave Briggs who watches Charlton occasionally?
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Post by Jomo on Dec 16, 2018 10:41:42 GMT
I'm going to nail my colours to the mast and say I think Ben Garner should get the managers job here if he wants it. Yesterday he was 16/1 with certain bookmakers. As Tony Pulis has said of him in the past: “Ben has it in him to one day step into the manager’s role. He’s got the potential.” He has worked at close quarters with some good people like Holloway, Pulis, Warnock, Pardew, Venables, Lennie Lawrence and Gerry Francis, will have surely built up a good contact list and with his reputation in the game managers will be willing to send loan players to us as they know they will be entering a good working environment and receive top class coaching. He helped bring through talents such as Victor Moses, Nathaniel Clyne, Wilfried Zaha, Sean Scannell and Jonny Williams at Crystal Palace. He has gone on to coach 200 games at the senior level – most of them in the Premier League. During 2012/2013 season he was promoted to Crystal Palace First Team Coach under then manager Ian Holloway. On 27 May 2013 Crystal Palace were promoted to the Premier League after beating Watford 1-0 AET at Wembley in the Championship Play-Off Final. Garner remained as First Team Coach in the 2013/2014 season when Tony Pulis was appointed as Ian Holloway’s successor on 23 November 2013. Crystal Palace retained their Premier League status for the first time in the club’s history finishing in 11th place and Pulis won the LMA Manager of the Year award. Has the UEFA PRO licence and the LMA Diploma in Management, as well as a having a degree in sports science and a diploma in neuro-linguistic programming, he has learned Spanish. He was linked with the Nottingham Forest and Bradford City jobs and I think he could prove a good short and long term appointment for us. en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ben_Garnerwww.londonnewsonline.co.uk/ex-palace-coach-garner-has-the-know-how-to-manage-at-the-highest-level/footballcoaching.co.nz/ben-garner-previous-premier-league-first-team-coach-uk/the72.co.uk/115156/ben-garner-bradford-citys-potential-new-manager/What would you say on Mark Robbins? His Swindon team played great football getting to the playoff final in league one a couple years back. Used to working with loans and a budget. Do you mean Mark Cooper? Isn't he still manager of FGR? I've always thought he comes across as an arrogant bloke, in the Buckle mould. He hasn't got a bad record to be fair but it just wouldn't sit right with me.
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Post by gashead1981 on Dec 16, 2018 10:46:20 GMT
Looking at all the candidates so far you are probably right in saying this is the best fit. It’s whether the board think he has enough “experience” leading from the touch line.
Personally I think it’s a great shout.
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Post by Gassy on Dec 16, 2018 10:51:12 GMT
Looking at all the candidates so far you are probably right in saying this is the best fit. It’s whether the board think he has enough “experience” leading from the touch line. Personally I think it’s a great shout. What the real problem is if he even applied for the job. Seeming as the board seem to be waiting on CVs they receive
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Post by pirate on Dec 16, 2018 10:52:38 GMT
What would you say on Mark Robbins? His Swindon team played great football getting to the playoff final in league one a couple years back. Used to working with loans and a budget. Do you mean Mark Cooper? Isn't he still manager of FGR? I've always thought he comes across as an arrogant bloke, in the Buckle mould. He hasn't got a bad record to be fair but it just wouldn't sit right with me. If It is Mark Cooper madgas means, then it would be a no from me. I know someone who is close to one of his current players and he isn't impressed by his management. He has got a decent record, but he is not someone who has ever stood out to me.
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Post by pirate on Dec 16, 2018 10:53:30 GMT
Loving the fact that, like the players you bring to our attention, you have stats on potential managers who are currently off the radar of us lesser mortals. As has been mentioned elsewhere, if someone has a track record of achieving survival from a difficult situation then that has to be the most compelling attribute at this moment. Interesting call though. I don’t suppose you have a database of potential owners? 😂 Owners? He's even got a database of fans. Pirate, what do you think of Dave Briggs who watches Charlton occasionally? Briggsy's inconsistency concerns me, he'll turn up one game but not the next. He also lacks disciple with his treatment of referees.
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Post by madgas on Dec 16, 2018 10:56:02 GMT
Do you mean Mark Cooper? Isn't he still manager of FGR? I've always thought he comes across as an arrogant bloke, in the Buckle mould. He hasn't got a bad record to be fair but it just wouldn't sit right with me. If It is Mark Cooper madgas means, then it would be a no from me. I know someone who is close to one of his current players and he isn't impressed by his management. He has got a decent record, but he is not someone who has ever stood out to me. Yep keep getting robbins and cooper mixed up. Ok- id still be interested. Plays good style of play.
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Post by madgas on Dec 16, 2018 10:58:15 GMT
What would you say on Mark Robbins? His Swindon team played great football getting to the playoff final in league one a couple years back. Used to working with loans and a budget. Do you mean Mark Cooper? Isn't he still manager of FGR? I've always thought he comes across as an arrogant bloke, in the Buckle mould. He hasn't got a bad record to be fair but it just wouldn't sit right with me. Yeah- you got me. Muddled. Both would be good imo. One possible.
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Post by Jomo on Dec 16, 2018 11:00:12 GMT
Do you mean Mark Cooper? Isn't he still manager of FGR? I've always thought he comes across as an arrogant bloke, in the Buckle mould. He hasn't got a bad record to be fair but it just wouldn't sit right with me. Yeah- you got me. Muddled. Both would be good imo. One possible. Mark Robins I doubt would leave Coventry for us, and as sad as I am to say it, I think FGR are set up better in regards infrastructure than we are. I also strongly suspect that Dale Vince would not allow his manager to be stolen away by one of the Bristol clubs.
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Post by madgas on Dec 16, 2018 11:07:59 GMT
Yeah- you got me. Muddled. Both would be good imo. One possible. Mark Robins I doubt would leave Coventry for us, and as sad as I am to say it, I think FGR are set up better in regards infrastructure than we are. I also strongly suspect that Dale Vince would not allow his manager to be stolen away by one of the Bristol clubs. Probably correct.
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Post by William Wilson on Dec 16, 2018 11:14:12 GMT
Owners? He's even got a database of fans. Pirate, what do you think of Dave Briggs who watches Charlton occasionally? Briggsy's inconsistency concerns me, he'll turn up one game but not the next. He also lacks disciple with his treatment of referees. And his past association with The Richardson Gang, makes you wonder if he`s really the sort of fan, we want in football.
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Post by blueblood1883 on Dec 16, 2018 11:21:27 GMT
I can't help but think that Michael Flynn ticks all of the boxes for me.. Getting him, now that's a completely different story...
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Post by South Stand Ultra on Dec 16, 2018 11:25:09 GMT
It would be totally madness in my view to employ someone with either no managerial or at least past Rovers experience. If the owners get this appointment wrong then we'll be back in Div 2 looking at attendances of 5,000/6,000 next season. it.
I said the exact same thing about Robbie Fowler.
The sh!t we find ourselves in, both on and off the field, only a experienced manager should get IMO!
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