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Post by Deleted on Dec 21, 2018 19:34:55 GMT
The more I have read Pirates piece on Ben Garner then I think we could do a lot worse than to get in Holloway with Garner as his number 2. We do need an assistant manager as well. Whether you have Holloway for 6 or 18 months with a succession plan to hand over to Garner. Whoever we chose, they need to stay regardless of where we finish in the league this year and be given time. Interesting shout. Like this.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 21, 2018 19:38:48 GMT
How do you know it was? There's only so much a non quitter can handle before he says "that's enough", like being let down on training ground, new Stadium, budget to replace £1m players sold and released, and everything else Al Qadi promised him. He’s gone he didn’t want two relagations on his CV so by mutual agreement he left,he wasn’t promised anything and didn’t complain during the two promotions he and others achieved, its easy too blame training grounds etc but his preseason dealings caught up with him and his tinkering so time for change but a sad day but the right decision I’m afraid. Appreciate this has been done to death, but you can't attribute our relegation to the Conference to him when he was only in charge for eight games. No more could you attribute a promotion should he have managed for the same length if time at the top of the table. DC: Promotions 2-0 Relegations.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 21, 2018 19:51:53 GMT
He’s gone he didn’t want two relagations on his CV so by mutual agreement he left,he wasn’t promised anything and didn’t complain during the two promotions he and others achieved, its easy too blame training grounds etc but his preseason dealings caught up with him and his tinkering so time for change but a sad day but the right decision I’m afraid. Appreciate this has been done to death, but you can't attribute our relegation to the Conference to him when he was only in charge for eight games. No more could you attribute a promotion should he have managed for the same length if time at the top of the table. DC: Promotions 2-0 Relegations. I agree with you but his CV will read 2-1 if we get relagation this season people will point the finger at DC. DC did say after the relagation he took full responsibility.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 21, 2018 20:00:00 GMT
He’s gone he didn’t want two relagations on his CV so by mutual agreement he left,he wasn’t promised anything and didn’t complain during the two promotions he and others achieved, its easy too blame training grounds etc but his preseason dealings caught up with him and his tinkering so time for change but a sad day but the right decision I’m afraid. Appreciate this has been done to death, but you can't attribute our relegation to the Conference to him when he was only in charge for eight games. No more could you attribute a promotion should he have managed for the same length if time at the top of the table. DC: Promotions 2-0 Relegations. It's not that black and white is it. Of course DC has to shoulder some resposibility for the L2 relegation given where we were when we took over.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 21, 2018 20:08:05 GMT
Appreciate this has been done to death, but you can't attribute our relegation to the Conference to him when he was only in charge for eight games. No more could you attribute a promotion should he have managed for the same length if time at the top of the table. DC: Promotions 2-0 Relegations. I agree with you but his CV will read 2-1 if we get relagation this season people will point the finger at DC. DC did say after the relagation he took full responsibility. Agreed.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 21, 2018 20:12:55 GMT
Appreciate this has been done to death, but you can't attribute our relegation to the Conference to him when he was only in charge for eight games. No more could you attribute a promotion should he have managed for the same length if time at the top of the table. DC: Promotions 2-0 Relegations. It's not that black and white is it. Of course DC has to shoulder some resposibility for the L2 relegation given where we were when we took over. From memory, about 2 or 3 points above the drop zone. Right in the mix. No, I don't think he does cop for that. Eight games with a struggling side that had little quality and with no opportunity to bring in players. I have plenty of respect for John Ward, but it was his side, not Darrell's.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 21, 2018 20:31:22 GMT
It's not that black and white is it. Of course DC has to shoulder some resposibility for the L2 relegation given where we were when we took over. From memory, about 2 or 3 points above the drop zone. Right in the mix. No, I don't think he does cop for that. Eight games with a struggling side that had little quality and with no opportunity to bring in players. I have plenty of respect for John Ward, but it was his side, not Darrell's. I must agree with you 1970 but it won’t read like that I’m afraid,I just watched his interview after the Mansfield game and he was as devastated as me and you,do you know what the funny thing is I thought he at too go but after watching that interview after the Mansfield game,I now myself feel gutted for him and would like him at the club with some sort of role I Think the owners and the supporters owe him that and maybe reinstate him one day manager.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 21, 2018 20:40:49 GMT
From memory, about 2 or 3 points above the drop zone. Right in the mix. No, I don't think he does cop for that. Eight games with a struggling side that had little quality and with no opportunity to bring in players. I have plenty of respect for John Ward, but it was his side, not Darrell's. I must agree with you 1970 but it won’t read like that I’m afraid,I just watched his interview after the Mansfield game and he was as devastated as me and you,do you know what the funny thing is I thought he at too go but after watching that interview after the Mansfield game,I now myself feel gutted for him and would like him at the club with some sort of role I Think the owners and the supporters owe him that and maybe reinstate him one day manager. I'm not sure. Whilst I think he has been absolutely brilliant for us and certainly one of the most important managers in our entire history, do you go back? Can it ever be the same? Not sure. I hope he gets some kind of tribute tomorrow though and it would be a nice touch if he were to be invited back by the club at some stage too.
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Post by Topper Gas on Dec 21, 2018 21:56:38 GMT
From memory, about 2 or 3 points above the drop zone. Right in the mix. No, I don't think he does cop for that. Eight games with a struggling side that had little quality and with no opportunity to bring in players. I have plenty of respect for John Ward, but it was his side, not Darrell's. I must agree with you 1970 but it won’t read like that I’m afraid,I just watched his interview after the Mansfield game and he was as devastated as me and you,do you know what the funny thing is I thought he at too go but after watching that interview after the Mansfield game,I now myself feel gutted for him and would like him at the club with some sort of role I Think the owners and the supporters owe him that and maybe reinstate him one day manager. Why would you reinstate a manager who was taking us down, it'll be interesting to see were he pops up next but I'd be a bit surprised if it was another Div 1 side. I really don't think he's up to managing at this level at present. Coughlin, having been a No 2 at Southend, may well have a better understanding of what's required in Div 1. Whoever takes over as got an hell of a job on their hands to keep us in Div 1 as we probably need a goalie, strong CH and a goal scoring striker or two.
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Post by justin blue on Dec 22, 2018 0:09:09 GMT
Is it going to be the theme here every time Ollie writes his column that he's trying to worm his way back in. He writes a column in the local rag he's bound to talk about our situation while its topical. He said we need an experienced manager he could just as easily be touting Cottorerill or Hurst. Holloways a legend and I'll argue with anyone who says different, but I wouldn't want him as manager again we need to move on.
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Post by pirate on Jan 11, 2019 1:30:50 GMT
"Lots of fans have contacted me over the past few weeks asking if I was interested in the job, but I didn’t feel it was right to comment publicly until an appointment was made. "Now, while I am pleased that Rovers have gone for a man like Graham, who appears to have the same passion for football as predecessor Darrell Clarke, I want to make it clear that I wish I was in his position today. Having had the privilege of being manager before, I see it as a job to die for. I didn’t even get as far as an interview, but I want the fans to know that had the club wanted me, I would have been over the moon." www.bristolpost.co.uk/sport/sport-opinion/good-luck-graham-wish-new-2417090
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Post by Deleted on Jan 11, 2019 1:50:40 GMT
"Lots of fans have contacted me over the past few weeks asking if I was interested in the job, but I didn’t feel it was right to comment publicly until an appointment was made. "Now, while I am pleased that Rovers have gone for a man like Graham, who appears to have the same passion for football as predecessor Darrell Clarke, I want to make it clear that I wish I was in his position today. Having had the privilege of being manager before, I see it as a job to die for. I didn’t even get as far as an interview, but I want the fans to know that had the club wanted me, I would have been over the moon." www.bristolpost.co.uk/sport/sport-opinion/good-luck-graham-wish-new-2417090We've had a lucky escape I feel. There will be an identical article being rolled out in the Luton Observer in the next few days....
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Post by Dr Gas on Jan 11, 2019 1:53:44 GMT
"Lots of fans have contacted me over the past few weeks asking if I was interested in the job, but I didn’t feel it was right to comment publicly until an appointment was made. "Now, while I am pleased that Rovers have gone for a man like Graham, who appears to have the same passion for football as predecessor Darrell Clarke, I want to make it clear that I wish I was in his position today. Having had the privilege of being manager before, I see it as a job to die for. I didn’t even get as far as an interview, but I want the fans to know that had the club wanted me, I would have been over the moon." www.bristolpost.co.uk/sport/sport-opinion/good-luck-graham-wish-new-2417090We dodged a bullet there.
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Post by Captain Jayho on Jan 11, 2019 4:59:29 GMT
Don't really have a problem with it personally. My view is that he loves this club first and foremost and would relish the opportunity to try and get us into the Championship. Plenty of folk don't believe him and we're all entitled to our views on that. I'm not sure what he was meant to say at the other clubs he's managed though - "jeez I really like this club but actually I still want to be managing the gas". I'm sure that would have made him hugely popular. All I can see is that he gives his all wherever he goes but ultimately he grew up supporting, playing for and then managing his boyhood club. Not sure why people get so worked up about what he's said or done elsewhere to get by.
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Post by simon1883 on Jan 11, 2019 8:14:31 GMT
I’m on the fence with this. He has undoubted love for this club - possibly too much. In his mind, I think he feels he’s got unfinished business after THAT season and sees this as the best opportunity to for him and the club.
I’m amazed he didn’t get an interview - this shows me that GC was always getting the job and we were always going cheap and had no intension of trying too hard.
I’m not against the appointment of GC in any way and I think he has some of the qualities to take us forward.
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Post by gashead1981 on Jan 11, 2019 8:23:39 GMT
I’m on the fence with this. He has undoubted love for this club - possibly too much. In his mind, I think he feels he’s got unfinished business after THAT season and sees this as the best opportunity to for him and the club. I’m amazed he didn’t get an interview - this shows me that GC was always getting the job and we were always going cheap and had no intension of trying too hard. I’m not against the appointment of GC in any way and I think he has some of the qualities to take us forward. I think we would have all had a very different opinion had GC not managed to turn it around and the board would have been forced to look to an experienced hand. Its no coincidence Cotterill and Sturrock were seen about the place in the weeks leading up to and post DCs sacking/mutually agreed parting.. The fans were very vocal in their opposition to Cotterill, Sturrock is older than ollie and would not have been the right fit, I have bad memories of scottish managers here, and its very doubtful anyone else in that mould would have wanted to come here so i think they would have been forced to look at Ollie or Lennie with Flynn. Had he got it, I wouldn't have been adverse to it, but to the end of the season only. I can't help to think he shot his own feet though with his outbursts post Holtby.
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Post by Antonio Fargas on Jan 11, 2019 8:29:31 GMT
In the Having a Gas interview, GC named Sturrock as, effectively, his mentor and the one person in football whose judgement he most trusts, so I wouldn't be surprised if Sturrock had been at the Mem at GC's request.
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Post by thegasareback on Jan 11, 2019 8:31:03 GMT
I think this Holloway interview is not really in our best interests. It clearly shows that the club didn’t conduct a thorough interview process, and if GC doesn’t work out then there will be a hell of a lot of finger pointing as to why we didn’t do this. A handful of games and a decent impact, and that justifies not interviewing people? Not sure about that. Unless Holloway wasn’t one of the people interviewed but that would be a bit strange.
Pirate - was Garner interviewed do you know or was that the rumour mill turning?
For the record I’m fully behind GC and pray we get out of this mess and finish 20th.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 11, 2019 8:32:33 GMT
Holloway and our empty-handed owners would have been a marriage from hell, Hamer would have shat himself on numerous occasions.
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Post by pirate on Jan 11, 2019 8:34:52 GMT
I think this Holloway interview is not really in our best interests. It clearly shows that the club didn’t conduct a thorough interview process, and if GC doesn’t work out then there will be a hell of a lot of finger pointing as to why we didn’t do this. A handful of games and a decent impact, and that justifies not interviewing people? Not sure about that. Unless Holloway wasn’t one of the people interviewed but that would be a bit strange. Pirate - was Garner interviewed do you know or was that the rumour mill turning? For the record I’m fully behind GC and pray we get out of this mess and finish 20th. As far as I understand Garner was not interviewed.
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