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Post by Jomo on Jan 11, 2019 9:47:28 GMT
You're probably right, in which case they'd be better off sticking with the loan system. Although I feel in a cynical way that this format was designed to be more appealing since they scrapped the emergency loan system. I might be wrong though. Or just joining their local team, instead of f**king off to Man City or Barcelona at age 14. Indeed. As many of us have discussed before, the FA should seriously implement a limit on the amount of players the elite clubs should be allowed to have on their books. It's farcical that Chelsea have dozens of players out on loan each season. Then once in a blue moon they have someone good enough to make their match day squad but will inevitably eventually get sold for a few million and fund their hoarding for another couple of years. Hudson-Odoi and Loftus-Cheek spring to mind from their latest crop. I also think it should not be allowed for clubs to poach 13 and 14 year old's from other clubs, particularly foreign clubs. Brahim Diaz would actually go down as "home-grown" wouldn't he? What an absolute joke.
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Post by William Wilson on Jan 11, 2019 10:00:04 GMT
but he will dip a ball bag into the warm water. Think I'll give it a miss. Oh, don`t be so fussy, just because it was an ex public lavatory. I`ll make us some nice cheese and chutney sandwiches.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 11, 2019 10:28:28 GMT
Think I'll give it a miss. Oh, don`t be so fussy, just because it was an ex public lavatory. I`ll make us some nice cheese and chutney sandwiches.
There's your problem William. The only thing about 'Public' that Baggins understands is Public School. Also, he doesn't socialise with those that make sandwiches. He normally leaves that sort of work to the Staff.
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Post by Hugo the Elder on Jan 11, 2019 11:24:02 GMT
Exactly. Examples of players to have played for "U23" teams: Charlie Adam, Marcin Wasilewski, Nelson Oliveira. Joke. Surely part of a youth players development is to play games alongside experienced pro's and not just against them? Then call it B teams, because that's what it is. To dress up the lie as U23s is yet another insult to our intelligence.
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Post by BishopstonBRFC on Jan 11, 2019 15:38:49 GMT
The new Wembley stadium is sh**e and this competition is now sh**e. I love my club but not interested in going if we get to the final. Each to their own though. Totally agree about the new Wembley. They made a complete pig’s ear of it. Walking down Wembley Way seeing the twin towers approaching was so iconic. I went to 4 games at the old Wembley (The two Gas defeats, Wimborne Town winning the FA Vase and England beating Holland 4-1 in Euro 96), all as a child. Facilities seemed fine to me and each occasion was very special and memorable. Going to the Shrewsbury playoff win was great but only because of the result and camaraderie of the fans. The stadium felt soulless, the matchday experience likewise and the surrounding area was a dump. All at the cost of, what was it, 800 million? How to ruin something genuinely special at great cost and for no good reason. The surrounding area wouldn't have been any better before the the old Wembley was knocked down.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 11, 2019 16:21:34 GMT
Totally agree about the new Wembley. They made a complete pig’s ear of it. Walking down Wembley Way seeing the twin towers approaching was so iconic. I went to 4 games at the old Wembley (The two Gas defeats, Wimborne Town winning the FA Vase and England beating Holland 4-1 in Euro 96), all as a child. Facilities seemed fine to me and each occasion was very special and memorable. Going to the Shrewsbury playoff win was great but only because of the result and camaraderie of the fans. The stadium felt soulless, the matchday experience likewise and the surrounding area was a dump. All at the cost of, what was it, 800 million? How to ruin something genuinely special at great cost and for no good reason. The surrounding area wouldn't have been any better before the the old Wembley was knocked down. It was worse.
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Post by lastminutewinner on Jan 11, 2019 17:16:56 GMT
Surely part of a youth players development is to play games alongside experienced pro's and not just against them? Then call it B teams, because that's what it is. To dress up the lie as U23s is yet another insult to our intelligence. Although I dont agree with it, its also a good risk-free chance to give some of our own youngsters valuable first team experience. Also an opportunity to look at some opposition players to pick up on loan or keep tabs on if they are released. Look at Jack Stacey who scored against us Vs Reading U23's and now Luton are expected to sell for well over a million.
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Post by Hugo the Elder on Jan 11, 2019 18:24:13 GMT
Then call it B teams, because that's what it is. To dress up the lie as U23s is yet another insult to our intelligence. Although I dont agree with it, its also a good risk-free chance to give some of our own youngsters valuable first team experience. Also an opportunity to look at some opposition players to pick up on loan or keep tabs on if they are released. Look at Jack Stacey who scored against us Vs Reading U23's and now Luton are expected to sell for well over a million. It isn't really though as League 1 and 2 teams have to field a near full strength first team in every game otherwise they get fined.
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Post by lastminutewinner on Jan 11, 2019 18:35:42 GMT
Although I dont agree with it, its also a good risk-free chance to give some of our own youngsters valuable first team experience. Also an opportunity to look at some opposition players to pick up on loan or keep tabs on if they are released. Look at Jack Stacey who scored against us Vs Reading U23's and now Luton are expected to sell for well over a million. It isn't really though as League 1 and 2 teams have to field a near full strength first team in every game otherwise they get fined. Only 4 of the 10 outfield players need to be 'qualifying players' (ie regular players) so that still leaves another 6 that could potentially all be fringe/youth players
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Post by Hugo the Elder on Jan 11, 2019 18:44:43 GMT
It isn't really though as League 1 and 2 teams have to field a near full strength first team in every game otherwise they get fined. Only 4 of the 10 outfield players need to be 'qualifying players' (ie regular players) so that still leaves another 6 that could potentially all be fringe/youth players I thought it was the other way around with 6 needing to start the previous or following match?? Maybe I have that wrong then.
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Post by Antonio Fargas on Jan 11, 2019 19:16:11 GMT
The team must include 4 qualifying outfield players.
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Post by Hugo the Elder on Jan 11, 2019 19:26:12 GMT
The team must include 4 qualifying outfield players. I stand corrected.
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Post by mftc on Jan 12, 2019 13:02:02 GMT
1) The club did not vote for this format. FACT
2) Several Prem and FL reps have confirmed this competition is NOT a fore runner for a league. FACT
3) Football evolves FACT
4) The top clubs are so mega rich they can do what they want (and pay off anyone who disagrees). FACT - the European Football League will start in the next 10 years ( my opinion).
If 2000 gas don't turn up, they are only hurting the club (my opinion).
The club needs all the support it can get right now with verbal and financial backing.
Two (rounds) to go, you never know.
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Post by Jomo on Jan 12, 2019 13:18:52 GMT
1) The club did not vote for this format. FACT 2) Several Prem and FL reps have confirmed this competition is NOT a fore runner for a league. FACT 3) Football evolves FACT 4) The top clubs are so mega rich they can do what they want (and pay off anyone who disagrees). FACT - the European Football League will start in the next 10 years ( my opinion). If 2000 gas don't turn up, they are only hurting the club (my opinion). The club needs all the support it can get right now with verbal and financial backing. Two (rounds) to go, you never know. I wouldn't trust the word of those PL and EFL reps at all. I would be very very surprised if the "B teams in the league" proposal did not come about again in the next few seasons. Fingers crossed it doesn't. Aside from that, I agree you're right that fewer people attending would hurt the club financially, which is something I regret. However, principles are important in life, and out of principle I could not lend my support to this competition in this format. The powers that be will do whatever they want anyway, but for my attendance to be included in their BS line of "the attendances have proved this format is popular with all supporters" would not sit well with me, so I will continue to be absent, for what I personally feel is for the best for lower league football's future. It's just a shame that our club's finances will be hit in the short term but that's a sacrifice I'm consciously willing to make.
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Post by tommym9 on Jan 15, 2019 8:46:45 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Jan 15, 2019 9:24:57 GMT
The Championship is currently one of the richest leagues in European football. Probably only the big leagues like Seria, Budesliga, Spanish and Italian top divisions are worth more. There is money to be made by playing in the Championship. The Prem clubs look at this and their thinking is that currently their B teams/U-21's, call them what you like, do not make any money. They are a cost. If those teams were playing in the Championship it would bring more money into the club. The second reason for Prem clubs to like this is that it would provide a 'buffer', in that say the top six teams to finish in the Championship were Prem league B teams. Those teams would not be promoted to the Prem. Would the team that finished 7th or 8th be promoted? I don't think so. With no promotion thee would be no relegation. Therefore, it would provide that buffer to stop teams being relegated from the Prem. If you are a Prem team looking to increase income, and also safeguarding your Premiership status, what is there not to like about that?
By the way, I don't like any of this, but many of you need to open your eyes. In the modern world of football, money talks. History and the romance of the game disappeared many years ago.
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Post by Gassy on Jan 15, 2019 10:29:06 GMT
The surrounding area wouldn't have been any better before the the old Wembley was knocked down. It was worse. Tbf, I went to England Vs Croatia in the nations league. There is a lot more going on around the stadium these days
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Post by gasheadbatesy on Jan 23, 2019 0:29:49 GMT
Bump. Bristol city b team anyone? Don’t ruin it for the proper supporter.
Anyone that attended tonight’s friendly or anyone thinking of attending the potential final........... Would you attend a semi final or final billed as Bristol Rovers v Bristol City u21. Sorry but if we win that 1. No surprise. Lose that 1.......... might as well support Weston. BOYCOTT. Reminds me, cricket 🏏 starts tomorrow. Ironically against windies b team. The a team are out to earn easy money.
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Post by lmgas on Jan 23, 2019 8:06:17 GMT
Disgusted with the attendances last night.
The fans are apparently just as weak about a potential Wembley appearance as the clubs were about cash bribes.
Rovers attendance quoted as 2016, shame on every single one of you - you will get what you deserve, sadly, so will the rest of us.
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Post by lympstonegas on Jan 23, 2019 8:16:21 GMT
Shame on you for writing that
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