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Post by Deleted on Jan 23, 2019 9:04:20 GMT
Brilliant. I think you'll find the missing majority speaks more volume than anything outside the ground would. Sounds like you really do need someone to organise your demonstration for you. Good luck in changing the world from the comfort and warm of your own home Has U21 teams entering lower league competition crossed a line for you DBG? |
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Post by Gas_Quarters on Jan 23, 2019 9:05:44 GMT
I’m a bit disappointed too as the lower attendances in this competition the better as far as I’m concerned.
I do have time for those people who have gone to every game from the start of this competition as they go to every game and don’t want to miss a chance to see Rovers play. Although I don’t agree with attending these games I do have respect for that.
What I can’t understand is those people that were boycotting and decided not to go to the early rounds of the competition, only to change their minds, go against their beliefs and turn up in the later rounds when they get a sniff of success and a Wembley final. I just can’t come to terms with that.
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Post by Henbury Gas on Jan 23, 2019 9:06:09 GMT
I don't think the EFL give a flying F##k what the missing majority think Believe me they would if the showcase game was boycotted on mass. To coin a very famous quote often used on here, what evidence do you have to back up you statement. |
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Post by Antonio Fargas on Jan 23, 2019 9:12:55 GMT
Believe me they would if the showcase game was boycotted on mass. To coin a very famous quote often used on here, what evidence do you have to back up you statement. Isn't it just obvious? An empty Wembley for the final would look stupid. It's not been done before, so there isn't any evidence for this particular case. But there is evidence that boycotts work. And there is evidence of 'reality and stuff.' In any case, you're not really, generally, an evidence based poster, so it's weird you would want evidence at this stage, especially as you've already made up you mind and are pretty clear about it. It's almost like you're being disingenuous. |
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Post by Henbury Gas on Jan 23, 2019 9:17:25 GMT
To coin a very famous quote often used on here, what evidence do you have to back up you statement. Isn't it just obvious? An empty Wembley for the final would look stupid. It's not been done before, so there isn't any evidence for this particular case. But there is evidence that boycotts work. And there is evidence of 'reality and stuff.' In any case, you're not really, generally, an evidence based poster, so it's weird you would want evidence at this stage, especially as you've already made up you mind and are pretty clear about it. It's almost like you're being disingenuous. Quite the opposite, i fully respect other peoples posts on here (even yours  ) |
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Post by Antonio Fargas on Jan 23, 2019 9:18:37 GMT
Isn't it just obvious? An empty Wembley for the final would look stupid. It's not been done before, so there isn't any evidence for this particular case. But there is evidence that boycotts work. And there is evidence of 'reality and stuff.' In any case, you're not really, generally, an evidence based poster, so it's weird you would want evidence at this stage, especially as you've already made up you mind and are pretty clear about it. It's almost like you're being disingenuous. Quite the opposite, i fully respect other peoples posts on here (even yours ) So you think an empty wembley for the final would have no effect on the EFL? |
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Post by Henbury Gas on Jan 23, 2019 9:30:58 GMT
Quite the opposite, i fully respect other peoples posts on here (even yours ) So you think an empty wembley for the final would have no effect on the EFL? The chances of Wembley ever been empty are remote, regardless of who or what are playing. the sad thing is a very small minority will protest and the majority of people do not want to or get involved in any form of protest. If Rovers v Bury ended up as the final, i'm sure there will be many fans/supporters who will attend regardless of any so called consequences of going |
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Post by Antonio Fargas on Jan 23, 2019 9:37:25 GMT
So you think an empty wembley for the final would have no effect on the EFL? The chances of Wembley ever been empty are remote, regardless of who or what are playing. the sad thing is a very small minority will protest and the majority of people do not want to or get involved in any form of protest. If Rovers v Bury ended up as the final, i'm sure there will be many fans/supporters who will attend regardless of any so called consequences of going Of course, but that wasn't the question. Do you think an empty wembley for the final would have no effect on the EFL? |
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Post by gasheadbatesy on Jan 23, 2019 9:58:20 GMT
Shame your happy to accept it. Glad you enjoyed yourself. So you’ll happily treat Bristol city u21/u23/B team or what ever as a competitive game that we can only lose, and they can only win. 👏👏👏👏👏👏👏. Well done the 2000. Well done. What makes you think it won't be us putting out that U21/U23/B team You are being very negative if you think we cant get promoted championship in the next few years 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 |
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Post by Henbury Gas on Jan 23, 2019 10:05:55 GMT
The chances of Wembley ever been empty are remote, regardless of who or what are playing. the sad thing is a very small minority will protest and the majority of people do not want to or get involved in any form of protest. If Rovers v Bury ended up as the final, i'm sure there will be many fans/supporters who will attend regardless of any so called consequences of going Of course, but that wasn't the question. Do you think an empty wembley for the final would have no effect on the EFL? Of Course it would have an effect, not sure it would make any difference to the final outcome. If The Premier league offer £m's to secure some U23 berths in the EFL they will take it regardless and what you or me do |
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Post by matealotblue on Jan 23, 2019 10:11:05 GMT
Of course, but that wasn't the question. Do you think an empty wembley for the final would have no effect on the EFL? Of Course it would have an effect, not sure it would make any difference to the final outcome. If The Premier league offer £m's to secure some U23 births in the EFL they will take it regardless and what you or me do Blimey....didn’t realise that births 🍼 was a spectator sport. Not sure I would attend that tbh.....😁 |
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Post by Henbury Gas on Jan 23, 2019 10:15:08 GMT
Of Course it would have an effect, not sure it would make any difference to the final outcome. If The Premier league offer £m's to secure some U23 births in the EFL they will take it regardless and what you or me do Blimey....didn’t realise that births 🍼 was a spectator sport. Not sure I would attend that tbh.....😁 lol these spell checkers are poor that's my excuse anyway  |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 23, 2019 10:19:07 GMT
I’m a bit disappointed too as the lower attendances in this competition the better as far as I’m concerned. I do have time for those people who have gone to every game from the start of this competition as they go to every game and don’t want to miss a chance to see Rovers play. Although I don’t agree with attending these games I do have respect for that. What I can’t understand is those people that were boycotting and decided not to go to the early rounds of the competition, only to change their minds, go against their beliefs and turn up in the later rounds when they get a sniff of success and a Wembley final. I just can’t come to terms with that. Were those who didn't watch the early rounds absent because of their beliefs or because it's always been poorly supported in the early rounds long before the U21's entered? I don't know but probably a mix. |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 23, 2019 10:23:12 GMT
So 2016 of us will somehow help FL league Chairman one day vote for allowing Prem U-21's into the league? Never in a million years would they ever vote on that since it will push the majority down the pyramid. Conspiracy theories at their best. Reminds me of leftie types telling us what we should think and if we have a different views they result to insults. 2016 of you have effectively put your support behind the competition. Entirely your right to do so. Many thought that U21 teams would never enter lower league competition and the idea of Stoke U21 vs Port Vale or Sunderland vs Newcastle U21 would be a fantasy. It's happened. It's clear that there is a price and with the gap between the Championship and the rest growing, it's massively naive to think clubs wouldn't be open to significant Premier League subsiding if it meant their U21 clubs could play week in and week out to give their youngsters the experience. I can't speak for the other 2015 but I was there to support Bristol Rovers not whatever competition we happen to be playing in. |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 23, 2019 10:24:57 GMT
2016 of you have effectively put your support behind the competition. Entirely your right to do so. Many thought that U21 teams would never enter lower league competition and the idea of Stoke U21 vs Port Vale or Sunderland vs Newcastle U21 would be a fantasy. It's happened. It's clear that there is a price and with the gap between the Championship and the rest growing, it's massively naive to think clubs wouldn't be open to significant Premier League subsiding if it meant their U21 clubs could play week in and week out to give their youngsters the experience. I can't speak for the other 2015 but I was there to support Bristol Rovers not whatever competition we happen to be playing in. The problem being Eric is that you're supporting the competition in the process. The two can't be separated. |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 23, 2019 10:37:10 GMT
I can't speak for the other 2015 but I was there to support Bristol Rovers not whatever competition we happen to be playing in. The problem being Eric is that you're supporting the competition in the process. The two can't be separated. In your opinion |
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Post by philbemmygas on Jan 23, 2019 10:46:53 GMT
The problem being Eric is that you're supporting the competition in the process. The two can't be separated. In your opinion If it hadn't been for family illness the attendance would have been 2017; I am aware of the threat of premiersh*t teams entering the leagues. However: A. Money talks; if they want it too happen it will. We the fans of 3rd & 3th Division clubs would have to "suck it up". B. In the (questionable) democratic society we live in, I believe we are all entitled to hold an opinion/attend games regardless of others holding opposing opinions. If we get a home semi-final I will attend, in the (unlikely) event we get to the final I will be there. UTG |
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Post by tomylil on Jan 23, 2019 10:48:22 GMT
Quite the opposite, i fully respect other peoples posts on here (even yours ) So you think an empty wembley for the final would have no effect on the EFL? 100% it would embarrass the EFL as it should. By all means folks have a day out in London. Even drink around that corporate shithole all day in the quarters but do not attend the match if we get there. Everyone knows we'd take 40,000 plus if the competition was proper, so what better way to make a stand other than sticking two fingers up at the league who must now realise that their pampered millionaire premier league boys who play tip tap every wednesday afternoon with other pampered millionaire premier league boys don't actually add anything to the tournament and come unstuck against grown ups who have mortgages to pay. Whatever money we make does anyone seriously think it would be invested into the team anyway ? |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 23, 2019 10:54:31 GMT
If it hadn't been for family illness the attendance would have been 2017; I am aware of the threat of premiersh*t teams entering the leagues. However: A. Money talks; if they want it too happen it will. We the fans of 3rd & 3th Division clubs would have to "suck it up". B. In the (questionable) democratic society we live in, I believe we are all entitled to hold an opinion/attend games regardless of others holding opposing opinions. If we get a home semi-final I will attend, in the (unlikely) event we get to the final I will be there. UTG B. Absolutely. Are you okay with U21 teams entering the competition PBG? |
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Post by philbemmygas on Jan 23, 2019 10:58:19 GMT
If it hadn't been for family illness the attendance would have been 2017; I am aware of the threat of premiersh*t teams entering the leagues. However: A. Money talks; if they want it too happen it will. We the fans of 3rd & 3th Division clubs would have to "suck it up". B. In the (questionable) democratic society we live in, I believe we are all entitled to hold an opinion/attend games regardless of others holding opposing opinions. If we get a home semi-final I will attend, in the (unlikely) event we get to the final I will be there. UTG B. Absolutely. Are you okay with U21 teams entering the competition PBG? I am not in favour of it thats for sure; I remember our Owners/Board voted against it last season. Not sure how they voted this season; either way it has been foisted on us so we can only (as a Club) accept it. |
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