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Post by scdave on Jan 19, 2019 9:34:57 GMT
If you agree with the above statement, just to let you know that I am planning to sell Port Vale 50/50 tickets in advance today.
If we have sufficient sellers, I will be going to the Welly, Drapers and around the pitch side before kickoff and in the clubhouse bars after the game - due illness/unforseen circumstances, I might have to cover another area if other sellers are absent for pre match duty, but will try to confirm around 1.30ish.
Please note that due to logistics, I am the only 50/50 seller doing this as far as I am aware.
Hopefully, this should bump up the prize a bit.Remember all the profits go towards the youth and development teams.
The winning ticket no(s) will be detailed on the SC website a few days later, if you don't attend the game and I'll try to remember to add the details to this thread after the game.
Good luck.
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Post by Gas_Quarters on Jan 19, 2019 9:45:57 GMT
This is a good idea. Good way to support the club financially whilst still boycotting the competition. Well done Dave.
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Post by socrates on Jan 19, 2019 9:47:01 GMT
It’s a tough one for me but by supporting my club in this competition I feel I’ll be supporting the competition and therefore personally be giving the green light to the possibility of B teams in our league structure in the future so haven’t gone to any of these games and won’t be going to any regardless of how far we get in the competition.
Good idea to sell the 50/50s today though fair play.
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Post by oldgas on Jan 19, 2019 10:45:20 GMT
Socrates arguments have been discussed fully in the Port Vale and other Checkatrade posts and it is a develishly difficult one to call.
I fully understand the reasons people are firmly in the boycot camp, but I find it so difficult to stay away when my beloved Gas are playing.
The thing is, and it's very easy to get things mixed together, is there even a remote possibility that this B team involvement in the Checkatrade will result in B teams competing in the EFL? It seems to me that perhaps we (as a football collective) are going about this the wrong way. We should put individual club rivalries to one side and protest against the involvement in a different way. I would suggest,that if this nonsense is continued next season, that all fans boycott all matches involving the B teams, but pack stadiums to the rafters for games between proper teams. The likes of Harvey would not then be able to claim any kind of success, especially if, God forbid, one of those sides made it to the final.
I would hope that, in separating the 2 completions entirely, the EFL Would roundly reject the involvement of B teams in the league structure because they will have had demonstrated beyond all doubt that the fans don't want it.
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Post by Gas_Quarters on Jan 19, 2019 10:57:53 GMT
Socrates arguments have been discussed fully in the Port Vale and other Checkatrade posts and it is a develishly difficult one to call. I fully understand the reasons people are firmly in the boycot camp, but I find it so difficult to stay away when my beloved Gas are playing. The thing is, and it's very easy to get things mixed together, is there even a remote possibility that this B team involvement in the Checkatrade will result in B teams competing in the EFL? It seems to me that perhaps we (as a football collective) are going about this the wrong way. We should put individual club rivalries to one side and protest against the involvement in a different way. I would suggest,that if this nonsense is continued next season, that all fans boycott all matches involving the B teams, but pack stadiums to the rafters for games between proper teams. The likes of Harvey would not then be able to claim any kind of success, especially if, God forbid, one of those sides made it to the final. I would hope that, in separating the 2 completions entirely, the EFL Would roundly reject the involvement of B teams in the league structure because they will have had demonstrated beyond all doubt that the fans don't want it. I don’t necessarily disagree with what you’re saying, but I just think having horrendous attendances on the whole makes the competition looks like a real farce, which is what they have turned it into. As I have previously said, if nobody attended, the competition would be stopped immediately. So those that do still attend are the reason that it’s still going the way it is. Having said that, if you (like many others) so wish to watch the gas in every game they play and can’t stay away then fair enough. However what I can’t come to terms with, is why anyone would say they’re boycotting the competition in the early stages, only to turn up in the latter stages when we have a chance of a Wembley final. That for me completely defeats the point of the boycott. And the 2017 final between Coventry and Oxford being so well attended was one of the reasons given for the competition being a “success”. |
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Post by peterhooper57 on Jan 19, 2019 11:01:07 GMT
I will not be staying away, the boys need our support; although, I do understand why some might choose to listen to the match on BBC Bristol. Dave I will buy my 50/50 on Tuesday night, although great initiative to sell a few today. Utg
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Post by o2o2bo2ba on Jan 19, 2019 11:09:11 GMT
Great initiative.
I've been doing this for a while now, but as I'm lucky and live near the stadium, I can do it on the night..
You can donate, or even buy something from the club to boost their funds, but at least the narcissistic EFL will be deprived of funds.
Good luck and please give us some feedback after the event.
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Post by mftc on Jan 19, 2019 12:20:06 GMT
Good ideal as they say in these parts.
Well done the SC. I hope the boycotters put their money where there mouths are.
Would be amazing if we could get a 50/50 prize bigger than the gate!
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Post by Gas_Quarters on Jan 19, 2019 13:18:54 GMT
Good ideal as they say in these parts. Well done the SC. I hope the boycotters put their money where there mouths are. Would be amazing if we could get a 50/50 prize bigger than the gate! I never even thought of that actually but that would be brilliant if that got into the media. |
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Post by BelieveItWhenIAmSatInIt on Jan 19, 2019 14:25:31 GMT
I'm sorry, but if you choose to attend these games then I really do not think you fully understand the implication of what has been started in the EFL trophy these last two seasons.
I have always felt that consumers undervalue their own power in almost every aspect of the commercial world and never is this more true than in football.
Quite simply this is NOT a trophy that we as a club should have any interest whatsoever in winning and we as fans most certainly should not have any interest in attending the matches.
The most powerful thing we can do as consumers is stay away, hurting the big boys pockets is the only way we can make them listen and reconsider the farce that the EFL trophy has become.
Apologies for getting up on my soap box here fellas! But I feel very strongly about this and am not sure that everyone actually comprehends what the introduction of Prem and Championship reserve teams to this competition entails for the future of the British game.
For anyone who is genuinely uneducated on the subject and would like an example of what this move could lead to in the future, please take a look at the Segunda division B over in Spain.. This is a league populated by Real Madrid B, Barca B etc and is quite frankly a complete irrelevance in Spain.
To put this in relative terms to our game here in the UK, in Spain dropping out of La Liga is not like dropping down into our Championship with it's parachute payments and huge TV deals, dropping to Segunda B in Spain FAR more comparable to dropping out of the Premier League and falling straight into the Conference.
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Post by Okebournegas on Jan 19, 2019 14:37:06 GMT
Sooner we’re out the better , apologies for sounding like a broken record , broken record , broken out , better , sooner , we’re , the.
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Post by 1883 on Jan 19, 2019 15:46:35 GMT
I dont believe that supporting this trophy will lead to B teams in Leagues, and I also think its clear the boycotting is making no difference to anyones views, they left them in regardless. I would rather they werent in there, but dont think boycotting is achieving anything other than hurting our own clubs earnings
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Post by Deleted on Jan 19, 2019 17:43:54 GMT
I dont believe that supporting this trophy will lead to B teams in Leagues, and I also think its clear the boycotting is making no difference to anyones views, they left them in regardless. I would rather they werent in there, but dont think boycotting is achieving anything other than hurting our own clubs earnings Hurting in what way? It's an additional game, won't be budgeted for. |
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Post by gaschat on Jan 19, 2019 18:06:36 GMT
I dont believe that supporting this trophy will lead to B teams in Leagues, and I also think its clear the boycotting is making no difference to anyones views, they left them in regardless. I would rather they werent in there, but dont think boycotting is achieving anything other than hurting our own clubs earnings Hurting in what way? It's an additional game, won't be budgeted for. It would be unbudgetted additional revenue...always welcome |
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Post by scdave on Jan 19, 2019 18:26:17 GMT
I sold just over 40 tickets, so boosts the 50/50 fund a little.
Spoke to a few fans who are turning up on Tuesday, but staying in the bar and boycotting the match, so I suppose around £50 from non attendees can't be too bad.
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Post by mftc on Jan 19, 2019 18:34:07 GMT
Disappointed with that. There must have been well over 300 posts saying that they supported the club but not the trophy.
Would have hoped that quite a few would have spent £7 entrance money that the club are losing out on, buying 50/50 tickets.
If people don't want journeymen strikers then a club at our level have to develop our own players.
Hopefully at least one of the likes of Kavanagh, Spruce and Warwick comes good.
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