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Post by Cantankerous Gas on Jan 20, 2019 8:49:47 GMT
Rumour mill as accurate as ever.........
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Post by bornblue on Jan 20, 2019 8:51:37 GMT
If the rumours of this are true, and he is out of contract in 6 months, I really can’t believe the club have been so naive with contracts again, how can they get their fingers burnt so many times and not learn? It makes it worse when you see those over the dark side activating contract extension clauses within the players contracts to keep them!
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Post by RD on Jan 20, 2019 8:54:43 GMT
Clearly not leaving - so yet more, totally unsubstantiated b*llocks being passed around and people lapping it up like gospel.
You'd have thought people would have been embarrassed enough following the "takeover" speculation but apparantly not.
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Post by bluejay on Jan 20, 2019 8:58:02 GMT
Do you believe anything that anybody says about anything any more
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Post by bluejay on Jan 20, 2019 8:59:09 GMT
Do you believe anything that anybody says about anything any more
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Post by peterparker on Jan 20, 2019 9:02:29 GMT
We only got £150k up front for Ellis and won’t get the full amount until the summer. I was told that by WAQ himself. I think it absolutely stinks though that a championship club, in one of the most afluent leagues in the world cannot pay a small club the majority of the transfer fee. And I also cannot believe that our board are stupid enough to accept those terms. Fair play to Higgs, when he was chairman, he squeezed every penny out of Southampton for Sir Rickie which includes £900k of the £1.25m fee up front and then inserted add ons on top including international fees. Brilliant business. However there is business sense in not getting it all because of salary caps surely. If you can defer the increase in income over a period of time then you can incrimentally increase your budget as opposed to getting a large whack and then having to cut your budget the following season Whether we get enough overall for our players is another argument
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Post by faggotygas on Jan 20, 2019 9:42:35 GMT
How is it?? We have been through this loads of times before. Or Ellis, we had reinvested all of the money we received from Bodin and the snake roughly. We only got a part of the Ellis money upfront, which was spent on Payne. Don't forget DC wasted money on player's like Burn and Mensah as well as spending loads on Nichols. We paid for Partington, THD, Sercombe etc. We have reinvested a higher percentage than most teams at this level. Most sell there best player's and replace them with free transfers. Not true. Only the teams in the bottom half fail to reinvest transfer fees
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Post by daniel300380 on Jan 20, 2019 9:48:01 GMT
How is it?? We have been through this loads of times before. Or Ellis, we had reinvested all of the money we received from Bodin and the snake roughly. We only got a part of the Ellis money upfront, which was spent on Payne. Don't forget DC wasted money on player's like Burn and Mensah as well as spending loads on Nichols. We paid for Partington, THD, Sercombe etc. We have reinvested a higher percentage than most teams at this level. Most sell there best player's and replace them with free transfers. Not true. Only the teams in the bottom half fail to reinvest transfer fees Really??? Charlton made a few million over the summer I thought. Peterborough made loads, yes they spent, but no way near what they received. Even clubs like Sunderland and Barnsley made a big profit I thought. Without looking it up again, I thought a lot that sold player's, didn't reinvest no way near the amount they sold them for. It was the amount we received, due to the contact's that makes ours look a lot worse. But our policy was short contracts under the last board towards the end. Can't blame them though, after what had happened previously.
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Post by faggotygas on Jan 20, 2019 9:51:24 GMT
Not true. Only the teams in the bottom half fail to reinvest transfer fees Really??? Charlton made a few million over the summer I thought. Peterborough made loads, yes they spent, but no way near what they received. Even clubs like Sunderland and Barnsley made a big profit I thought. Without looking it up again, I thought a lot that sold player's, didn't reinvest no way near the amount they sold them for. It was the amount we received, due to the contact's that makes ours look a lot worse. But our policy was short contracts under the last board towards the end. Can't blame them though, after what had happened previously. You said, replace with free transfers. Those clubs all bought players with money.
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Post by gashead1981 on Jan 20, 2019 10:15:22 GMT
We only got £150k up front for Ellis and won’t get the full amount until the summer. I was told that by WAQ himself. I think it absolutely stinks though that a championship club, in one of the most afluent leagues in the world cannot pay a small club the majority of the transfer fee. And I also cannot believe that our board are stupid enough to accept those terms. Fair play to Higgs, when he was chairman, he squeezed every penny out of Southampton for Sir Rickie which includes £900k of the £1.25m fee up front and then inserted add ons on top including international fees. Brilliant business. However there is business sense in not getting it all because of salary caps surely. If you can defer the increase in income over a period of time then you can incrimentally increase your budget as opposed to getting a large whack and then having to cut your budget the following season Whether we get enough overall for our players is another argument Peter that is ostrich belief I’m afraid. P’boro sold Jack Marriott for £3m, Gwinon Edwards for £700k and Jack Baldwin for £200k. They bought in Ivan Toney for £650k. Now I don’t know what percentage of the fee they got up front but if I know DA, it would have been at least 50% to cover the Toney signing plus all the others they invested in, other wise there is no way they would be able to afford that type of transfer fee, signing fee and wages. To get get less than 10% of a transfer fee for your top scorer up front, from a club in a higher league than you when you are struggling to recruit under a mid table budget is just utter dog 💩 financial management and relegation suicide. Perhaps if our owners started docking their interest on the money lent to the club we wouldn’t have to a) sell so much b) use the transfer fees to help service the club to the extent it is.
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Post by pirate on Jan 20, 2019 10:19:48 GMT
After reading Cogs' comments I reckon he'll be gone by tomorrow.
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Post by Captain Jayho on Jan 20, 2019 11:08:21 GMT
After reading Cogs' comments I reckon he'll be gone by tomorrow. Indeed. It's got that flavour of DC talking about not selling the serpent before he slithered off to the teds shortly thereafter...
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Post by daniel300380 on Jan 20, 2019 11:09:47 GMT
Really??? Charlton made a few million over the summer I thought. Peterborough made loads, yes they spent, but no way near what they received. Even clubs like Sunderland and Barnsley made a big profit I thought. Without looking it up again, I thought a lot that sold player's, didn't reinvest no way near the amount they sold them for. It was the amount we received, due to the contact's that makes ours look a lot worse. But our policy was short contracts under the last board towards the end. Can't blame them though, after what had happened previously. You said, replace with free transfers. Those clubs all bought players with money. Don't think Charlton did during the summer. They did get Taylor on a free though, which helps lol. Point I was making is we have probally reinvested a higher percentage of fees received than most at this level. It was the small fees that cost us. If we got the true market value for the snake and Taylor at the time and reinvested it, we wouldn't be in this mess.
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Post by Hugo the Elder on Jan 20, 2019 11:11:48 GMT
Was Maddog the source of these rumours?
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Post by peterparker on Jan 20, 2019 11:12:58 GMT
However there is business sense in not getting it all because of salary caps surely. If you can defer the increase in income over a period of time then you can incrimentally increase your budget as opposed to getting a large whack and then having to cut your budget the following season Whether we get enough overall for our players is another argument Peter that is ostrich belief I’m afraid. P’boro sold Jack Marriott for £3m, Gwinon Edwards for £700k and Jack Baldwin for £200k. They bought in Ivan Toney for £650k. Now I don’t know what percentage of the fee they got up front but if I know DA, it would have been at least 50% to cover the Toney signing plus all the others they invested in, other wise there is no way they would be able to afford that type of transfer fee, signing fee and wages. To get get less than 10% of a transfer fee for your top scorer up front, from a club in a higher league than you when you are struggling to recruit under a mid table budget is just utter dog 💩 financial management and relegation suicide. Perhaps if our owners started docking their interest on the money lent to the club we wouldn’t have to a) sell so much b) use the transfer fees to help service the club to the extent it is. Who have we only got 10% up front for? I would agree that is poor (as is what we have been getting overall for our better players) Just saying i understand a certain logic in not getting it ALL in one go
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Post by dinsdale on Jan 20, 2019 12:08:28 GMT
I dont think GC will get any say over players leaving for fees
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Post by Deleted on Jan 20, 2019 12:26:18 GMT
You're a lucky boy then because this lot look set to give you even more wonderful times to get nostalgic over.... Who sold the club to them? Ah yes, let's exempt the Al qadi's from any responsibility and culpability by blaming it all on the people who sold them the club, that sounds like a right wheeze.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 20, 2019 12:30:51 GMT
You're a lucky boy then because this lot look set to give you even more wonderful times to get nostalgic over.... All thats happened is that the current owners are taking us to the same place every owner in our history has taken us. Nowhere. Precisely- so it stands to reason that if you have lots of happy memories of Higgs you will have lots of happy memories of Dwane Sports and Wael too.
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Post by Henbury Gas on Jan 20, 2019 12:45:51 GMT
Do you believe anything that anybody says about anything any more I don't believe anything i say let alone people on here.... oh wait a minute
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Post by paulpirate on Jan 20, 2019 14:03:42 GMT
Pompey reporter said done deal £550k
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