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Post by warehamgas on Feb 11, 2019 3:16:58 GMT
Referees have a thankless task. They come down hard on tackles that could potentially be leg breaking and players will sometimes make a good tackle but follow through to try and injure opponents. They then shrug their shoulders and feign innocence. When referees rightly send them off the teams officials all jump up and down and pretend they are hard done by and then come out in the press and say anything they like. Referees on the other hand are unable to talk to the press so have no means of reply. As to cheating and diving the PL did it for years and it got great publicity until there was a tightening up to a degree. But once a standard is broken everyone thinks they can do it and so it becomes a norm of the game. And let’s be honest put managers like Barton, Ricketts, Steve Evans and many others in charge are we that surprised that standards of teams are so poor? Until the FA and EFL actually fit the crime and the punishment together nothing will change. Refereees imo should come down hard on law infringements esp time wasting and if players and managers don’t like it, tough! By the way I’m not sure that we are any better than others but from what I’ve read, being in Oz for six weeks so I haven’t seen it, GC seems to have behaved well in the face of great provocation in the Fleetwood, Wycombe and Shrewsbury matches.
Ps. Just an observation of what happened on Saturday: The Shrews forum were up in arms last week over Ricketts having no experience except about 15 games in the NL with Wrexham and they were saying they needed a different manager. Then on Saturday in his rant Ricketts was moaning about having a ref who’d only just started refereeing and that the game needed more experience. I just thought that was slightly ironic to say the least. How on earth is anyone, manager, ref, played expected to get experience without the opportunity. Says a lot about the stupidity of the Shrews manager imo. UTG!
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Post by madgas on Feb 11, 2019 7:38:34 GMT
On the ref-
I’ve gotta say he was pretty poor. He didn’t book Shrewsbury once for time wasting and they were as bad as Wycombe for it.
Once a keeper has taken the water three times three times in a row- you book.
He booked Partington for a soft yellow for his first tackle and that should have set the standard. But it didn’t...
Norborn probably didn’t deserve his first booking but got one.
The second- well I’ve seen arguments on the Shrewsbury forum that it was a fine tackle. And I’d have to argue that he does win the ball. BUT- he went through the player without control- if the ref is deeming it a fowl (which he did). It’s dangerous and is a yellow. It’s either a good tackle or a dangerous one. The ref clearly chose to the second (and I agree) but did not match the punishment to the crime. Overall, I think Norburn deserved 1 yellow for what he did on the pitch- he just got the wrong one.
Partington should have been sent off. But he also shouldn’t have been booked early doors.
Ogogo could’ve gone- but I think it was right that he stayed on.
We had a penalty for some off field GBH.
Their red card? It’s on the soft side of a straight red. It’ll never get overturned because it’s not a clanger. But it’s challenge that happens when the ref looses the game.
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Post by William Wilson on Feb 11, 2019 8:02:14 GMT
He was a shocking ref, but not biased. You can see why everyone`s up in arms.
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Post by gashead1981 on Feb 11, 2019 8:02:42 GMT
On the ref- I’ve gotta say he was pretty poor. He didn’t book Shrewsbury once for time wasting and they were as bad as Wycombe for it. Once a keeper has taken the water three times three times in a row- you book. He booked Partington for a soft yellow for his first tackle and that should have set the standard. But it didn’t... Norborn probably didn’t deserve his first booking but got one. The second- well I’ve seen arguments on the Shrewsbury forum that it was a fine tackle. And I’d have to argue that he does win the ball. BUT- he went through the player without control- if the ref is deeming it a fowl (which he did). It’s dangerous and is a yellow. It’s either a good tackle or a dangerous one. The ref clearly chose to the second (and I agree) but did not match the punishment to the crime. Overall, I think Norburn deserved 1 yellow for what he did on the pitch- he just got the wrong one. Partington should have been sent off. But he also shouldn’t have been booked early doors. Ogogo could’ve gone- but I think it was right that he stayed on. We had a penalty for some off field GBH. Their red card? It’s on the soft side of a straight red. It’ll never get overturned because it’s not a clanger. But it’s challenge that happens when the ref looses the game. Disagree with the first booking for parts. The man beat him inside out for pace was going to the byline to whip in the cross and Parts took his legs from behind and made no contact with the ball. Definite yellow. It looks like to me that Norburn didn’t get the ball either, and it was from behind, and he clattered his man. So how does that not earn a booking when it was identical to Parts tackle that did!
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Post by Topper Gas on Feb 11, 2019 8:31:32 GMT
On the ref- I’ve gotta say he was pretty poor. He didn’t book Shrewsbury once for time wasting and they were as bad as Wycombe for it. Once a keeper has taken the water three times three times in a row- you book. He booked Partington for a soft yellow for his first tackle and that should have set the standard. But it didn’t... Norborn probably didn’t deserve his first booking but got one. The second- well I’ve seen arguments on the Shrewsbury forum that it was a fine tackle. And I’d have to argue that he does win the ball. BUT- he went through the player without control- if the ref is deeming it a fowl (which he did). It’s dangerous and is a yellow. It’s either a good tackle or a dangerous one. The ref clearly chose to the second (and I agree) but did not match the punishment to the crime. Overall, I think Norburn deserved 1 yellow for what he did on the pitch- he just got the wrong one. Partington should have been sent off. But he also shouldn’t have been booked early doors. Ogogo could’ve gone- but I think it was right that he stayed on. We had a penalty for some off field GBH. Their red card? It’s on the soft side of a straight red. It’ll never get overturned because it’s not a clanger. But it’s challenge that happens when the ref looses the game. Disagree with the first booking for parts. The man beat him inside out for pace was going to the byline to whip in the cross and Parts took his legs from behind and made no contact with the ball. Definite yellow. It looks like to me that Norburn didn’t get the ball either, and it was from behind, and he clattered his man. So how does that not earn a booking when it was identical to Parts tackle that did! Probably because he gave Norburn a soft yellow for the incident with Ogogo, who could have got a red himself in that incident. At the end of the day we drew because we weren't good enough to win not really because of a poor referee.
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Post by philbemmygas on Feb 11, 2019 9:41:28 GMT
On the ref- I’ve gotta say he was pretty poor. He didn’t book Shrewsbury once for time wasting and they were as bad as Wycombe for it. Once a keeper has taken the water three times three times in a row- you book. He booked Partington for a soft yellow for his first tackle and that should have set the standard. But it didn’t... Norborn probably didn’t deserve his first booking but got one. The second- well I’ve seen arguments on the Shrewsbury forum that it was a fine tackle. And I’d have to argue that he does win the ball. BUT- he went through the player without control- if the ref is deeming it a fowl (which he did). It’s dangerous and is a yellow. It’s either a good tackle or a dangerous one. The ref clearly chose to the second (and I agree) but did not match the punishment to the crime. Overall, I think Norburn deserved 1 yellow for what he did on the pitch- he just got the wrong one. Partington should have been sent off. But he also shouldn’t have been booked early doors. Ogogo could’ve gone- but I think it was right that he stayed on. We had a penalty for some off field GBH. Their red card? It’s on the soft side of a straight red. It’ll never get overturned because it’s not a clanger. But it’s challenge that happens when the ref looses the game. Disagree with the first booking for parts. The man beat him inside out for pace was going to the byline to whip in the cross and Parts took his legs from behind and made no contact with the ball. Definite yellow. It looks like to me that Norburn didn’t get the ball either, and it was from behind, and he clattered his man. So how does that not earn a booking when it was identical to Parts tackle that did! For me, that Norburn challenge is a straight red. It is out of control and definitely dangerous; as for the Golbourne effort in the 2nd half that was every bit as bad. An inexperienced Referee who let himself down by his inconsistency; hopefully he has been advised of his shortcomings by the Assessor
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Post by Deleted on Feb 11, 2019 13:19:51 GMT
Disagree with the first booking for parts. The man beat him inside out for pace was going to the byline to whip in the cross and Parts took his legs from behind and made no contact with the ball. Definite yellow. It looks like to me that Norburn didn’t get the ball either, and it was from behind, and he clattered his man. So how does that not earn a booking when it was identical to Parts tackle that did! For me, that Norburn challenge is a straight red. It is out of control and definitely dangerous; as for the Golbourne effort in the 2nd half that was every bit as bad. An inexperienced Referee who let himself down by his inconsistency; hopefully he has been advised of his shortcomings by the Assessor As I saw those challenges Phil.
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Post by baggins on Feb 11, 2019 13:22:51 GMT
Disagree with the first booking for parts. The man beat him inside out for pace was going to the byline to whip in the cross and Parts took his legs from behind and made no contact with the ball. Definite yellow. It looks like to me that Norburn didn’t get the ball either, and it was from behind, and he clattered his man. So how does that not earn a booking when it was identical to Parts tackle that did! For me, that Norburn challenge is a straight red. It is out of control and definitely dangerous; as for the Golbourne effort in the 2nd half that was every bit as bad. An inexperienced Referee who let himself down by his inconsistency; hopefully he has been advised of his shortcomings by the Assessor He should never, ever have been given that match. Totally out of his depth.
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Post by Antonio Fargas on Feb 11, 2019 13:33:09 GMT
The guy's refereed about 20 games league games including 6 league 1 games. It seems like a perfectly reasonable game for him to be appointed to.
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Post by philbemmygas on Feb 11, 2019 14:06:35 GMT
The guy's refereed about 20 games league games including 6 league 1 games. It seems like a perfectly reasonable game for him to be appointed to. Well whatever his experience; it was plain to see it was beyond him
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Post by baggins on Feb 11, 2019 15:37:45 GMT
The guy's refereed about 20 games league games including 6 league 1 games. It seems like a perfectly reasonable game for him to be appointed to. Don't think so.
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Post by Kingswood Polak on Feb 11, 2019 16:09:29 GMT
I'm sorry but what? What game were these fools watching? Blatant second booking from Norburn (the cocaine-selling little Fool), although admittedly Ogogo could've been sent off himself. Partington potential second booking but quite frankly the first one wasn't a booking IMO. Ref was awful all game, out of his depth and bottled most decisions. Definite red for Edwards and how their keeper wasn't booked for time-wasting I'll never know. Club full of sh*tstain players, moany manager and here's hoping they head down at our expense. Special K apparently
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Post by Deleted on Feb 13, 2019 17:49:13 GMT
I see Mr Ricketts appeal against the sending off has failed. The panel agreed the red card should stand and a three match ban has to be served.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 13, 2019 18:37:20 GMT
They appealed?!
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Post by Marshy on Feb 13, 2019 18:41:22 GMT
I see Mr Ricketts appeal against the sending off has failed. The panel agreed the red card should stand and a three match ban has to be served. Cheats never prosper.
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Post by Rod1883 on Feb 13, 2019 18:43:34 GMT
I see Mr Ricketts appeal against the sending off has failed. The panel agreed the red card should stand and a three match ban has to be served. It's a shame they didn't add a match or two to the ban for a frivolous appeal.
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Post by pucklegas on Feb 13, 2019 19:15:59 GMT
I see Mr Ricketts appeal against the sending off has failed. The panel agreed the red card should stand and a three match ban has to be served. Hope they made them wait for the result and waste time like their keeper
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Post by kruger on Feb 13, 2019 19:24:47 GMT
F.....g good, they deserve it, time wasting gits
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Post by Gas Go Marching In on Nov 25, 2020 12:26:08 GMT
Just been sacked by Shrews.
I'd be tempted to go bakc in for Hurst if I was them, did a good job there despite not doing so well since at Ipswich and Scunny.
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Post by wilmslowgas on Nov 25, 2020 12:37:10 GMT
One classic deflection tactic for failing managers is to blame the referee. It's very useful to blame somebody else for your own shortcomings. We saw a similar tactic regularly employed by our previous manager.
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