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Post by darkbluegas on Feb 10, 2019 23:39:14 GMT
For those of us old enough to remember the illustrated question in Shoot Magazine of yesteryear, can someone answer this one.
Norburn was booked yesterday and then subbed. As he was leaving the pitch the Ref had words with him, I assume for time wasting. If at that point he'd been booked again would the substitution have been completed or would they be down to 10 men.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 10, 2019 23:42:05 GMT
My view is that until he leaves the pitch he is part of the 11 outfield players.
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Post by darkbluegas on Feb 10, 2019 23:59:56 GMT
My view is that until he leaves the pitch he is part of the 11 outfield players. Thats what I'd assumed but in all my years watching I've never seen it arise. What I didn't notice at the time was Norburn was subbed, his replacement then got subbed, then his replacement got sent off. So three players in that position just managed 78 minutes on the pitch.
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Post by Wimborne Gas on Feb 11, 2019 0:59:33 GMT
Definitely would be down to 10 men. As bb states, whilst still on the pitch he is part of the 11.
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Post by Wembley_Gas on Feb 11, 2019 2:02:09 GMT
My view is that until he leaves the pitch he is part of the 11 outfield players. Thats what I'd assumed but in all my years watching I've never seen it arise. What I didn't notice at the time was Norburn was subbed, his replacement then got subbed, then his replacement got sent off. So three players in that position just managed 78 minutes on the pitch. They managed 85 mins between the three of them .. docherty came off on 78 mins replaced by Edwards who lasted 7 minutes before getting his marching orders.
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Post by pirate on Feb 11, 2019 3:26:11 GMT
You can get booked in the car park hours after the game as far as I'm aware and you're under the referees juristiction until you leave the ground.
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Post by Icegas on Feb 11, 2019 3:36:17 GMT
You can get booked in the car park hours after the game as far as I'm aware and you're under the referees juristiction until you leave the ground. Does that include if you take a sh** and do not wash your hands after?? A straight red in my eyes! Btw... just a question.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 11, 2019 7:32:10 GMT
You can get booked in the car park hours after the game as far as I'm aware and you're under the referees juristiction until you leave the ground. Does that include if you take a sh** and do not wash your hands after?? A straight red in my eyes! Btw... just a question. Be red in your eyes if you rub them straight after!
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Post by markczgas on Feb 11, 2019 9:29:14 GMT
Has anyone ever seen a keeper get 2 yellows for time wasting ? Doubt we ever will, but it should happen with a few of them who carry on regardless.
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Post by neilv93 on Feb 11, 2019 10:20:30 GMT
Has anyone ever seen a keeper get 2 yellows for time wasting ? Doubt we ever will, but it should happen with a few of them who carry on regardless. It'd be nice to see a keeper get ONE yellow for time-wasting. How the Shrews keeper got away with it (from the 23rd minute onwards, btw) I'll never know...
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Post by titchthephot on Feb 11, 2019 11:30:09 GMT
For those of us old enough to remember the illustrated question in Shoot Magazine of yesteryear, can someone answer this one. Norburn was booked yesterday and then subbed. As he was leaving the pitch the Ref had words with him, I assume for time wasting. If at that point he'd been booked again would the substitution have been completed or would they be down to 10 men. There is a Youtube video about crazy sending offs and one of them was for a player who had already been booked so he was being substituted. As he was walking towards the bench he took his shirt off and the ref booked him again and then sent him off. I assume then that as the substitution hadn't taken place the new man couldn't replace him so they would have been down to ten men.
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Post by darkbluegas on Feb 11, 2019 11:33:45 GMT
You can get booked in the car park hours after the game as far as I'm aware and you're under the referees juristiction until you leave the ground. I wouldn't have known prior to trying to answer my own question. However Rule 5 says that the referee has disciplinary authority from the time he enters the field of play to carry out pre match pitch inspection until he leaves the field of play at the end of the game, including penalties. Anything after that I assume he can mention any incident in his match report
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Post by faggotygas on Feb 11, 2019 12:27:10 GMT
You can get booked in the car park hours after the game as far as I'm aware and you're under the referees juristiction until you leave the ground. I don't think that was the question
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Post by Antonio Fargas on Feb 11, 2019 12:55:14 GMT
Yeah, they were great:
You're the Ref.
It's thirty minutes into the second half of a crucial FA Cup quarter final. The home side, a big club and favourites to win the competition, are one-nil up against third division minnows on their best FA Cup run for fifty years. The home goalkeeper gets the ball and kicks it upfield towards his striker. Unfortunately, it hits your face and rebounds towards the away team striker, who is standing in an offside position. During the keeper's follow through he loses a boot and it ricochets off his big centre back and into the away team's striker's head, who immediately loses consciousness and falls on the ball in such a way that he knocks it with his elbow towards his strike partner. The strike partner (who's called Gerry) dribbles towards goal. His captain on the halfway line shouts 'Gerry Shoot!' and the home back four all duck and cover, thinking it's an air-raid. Left with just the keeper to beat Gerry tries to round him. The keeper, despite only having one boot, seems to have him covered, but at that moment, a dog emerges from the away crowd and savages his leg, leaving the striker free to roll in an equaliser. What do you award?
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Post by gregsy on Feb 11, 2019 12:59:49 GMT
Yeah, they were great: You're the Ref. It's thirty minutes into the second half of a crucial FA Cup quarter final. The home side, a big club and favourites to win the competition, are one-nil up against third division minnows on their best FA Cup run for fifty years. The home goalkeeper gets the ball and kicks it upfield towards his striker. Unfortunately, it hits your face and rebounds towards the away team striker, who is standing in an offside position. During the keeper's follow through he loses a boot and it ricochets off his big centre back and into the away team's striker's head, who immediately loses consciousness and falls on the ball in such a way that he knocks it with his elbow towards his strike partner. The strike partner (who's called Gerry) dribbles towards goal. His captain on the halfway line shouts 'Gerry Shoot!' and the home back four all duck and cover, thinking it's an air-raid. Left with just the keeper to beat Gerry tries to round him. The keeper, despite only having one boot, seems to have him covered, but at that moment, a dog emerges from the away crowd and savages his leg, leaving the striker free to roll in an equaliser. What do you award? A tin of pedigree chum?
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Post by Gas_Quarters on Feb 11, 2019 17:13:17 GMT
My view is that until he leaves the pitch he is part of the 11 outfield players. I can remember seeing a Conference North game at Worksop Town about 12 years ago and something kicked off a bit on the pitch. One of the Worksop subs ran on and had a bit of a scuffle with one of the opposing players. Both players got sent off, but Worksop still had 11 men on the pitch and the opposition were down to 10. Not a bad little tactic that.
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Post by Officer Barbrady on Feb 11, 2019 17:45:32 GMT
My view is that until he leaves the pitch he is part of the 11 outfield players. I can remember seeing a Conference North game at Worksop Town about 12 years ago and something kicked off a bit on the pitch. One of the Worksop subs ran on and had a bit of a scuffle with one of the opposing players. Both players got sent off, but Worksop still had 11 men on the pitch and the opposition were down to 10. Not a bad little tactic that. That's genius
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Post by gasandelectricity on Feb 11, 2019 20:14:43 GMT
My view is that until he leaves the pitch he is part of the 11 outfield players. I can remember seeing a Conference North game at Worksop Town about 12 years ago and something kicked off a bit on the pitch. One of the Worksop subs ran on and had a bit of a scuffle with one of the opposing players. Both players got sent off, but Worksop still had 11 men on the pitch and the opposition were down to 10. Not a bad little tactic that. I thought if a sub gets sent off a player on the pitch has to come off in their place? A bit like when Evra got sent off pre match. www.google.co.uk/amp/s/amp.theguardian.com/football/2017/nov/02/patrice-evra-sent-off-kicking-fan-marseilleAlso remember Payne getting booked earlier this season without even setting foot on the pitch and after all 3 of our subs had been used
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Post by badengas on Feb 11, 2019 20:25:05 GMT
Yeah, they were great: You're the Ref. It's thirty minutes into the second half of a crucial FA Cup quarter final. The home side, a big club and favourites to win the competition, are one-nil up against third division minnows on their best FA Cup run for fifty years. The home goalkeeper gets the ball and kicks it upfield towards his striker. Unfortunately, it hits your face and rebounds towards the away team striker, who is standing in an offside position. During the keeper's follow through he loses a boot and it ricochets off his big centre back and into the away team's striker's head, who immediately loses consciousness and falls on the ball in such a way that he knocks it with his elbow towards his strike partner. The strike partner (who's called Gerry) dribbles towards goal. His captain on the halfway line shouts 'Gerry Shoot!' and the home back four all duck and cover, thinking it's an air-raid. Left with just the keeper to beat Gerry tries to round him. The keeper, despite only having one boot, seems to have him covered, but at that moment, a dog emerges from the away crowd and savages his leg, leaving the striker free to roll in an equaliser. What do you award? Goal
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Post by Antonio Fargas on Feb 11, 2019 21:01:35 GMT
Yeah, they were great: You're the Ref. It's thirty minutes into the second half of a crucial FA Cup quarter final. The home side, a big club and favourites to win the competition, are one-nil up against third division minnows on their best FA Cup run for fifty years. The home goalkeeper gets the ball and kicks it upfield towards his striker. Unfortunately, it hits your face and rebounds towards the away team striker, who is standing in an offside position. During the keeper's follow through he loses a boot and it ricochets off his big centre back and into the away team's striker's head, who immediately loses consciousness and falls on the ball in such a way that he knocks it with his elbow towards his strike partner. The strike partner (who's called Gerry) dribbles towards goal. His captain on the halfway line shouts 'Gerry Shoot!' and the home back four all duck and cover, thinking it's an air-raid. Left with just the keeper to beat Gerry tries to round him. The keeper, despite only having one boot, seems to have him covered, but at that moment, a dog emerges from the away crowd and savages his leg, leaving the striker free to roll in an equaliser. What do you award? Goal Are you allowed to play advantage with a serious head injury?
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