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Post by Deleted on Mar 18, 2019 8:41:40 GMT
The state of some comments on here is why most 'normal' supporters find this forum a total embarrassment. To think we have people totally disregarding the fact that we have had one of the best defensive records all season, also ignoring the fact that both Lockyer & Craig are virtual ever presents, not hiding, and putting in 100% each week, and now playing a key part in our improved record. Instead the demand is for a strong tall centre half...never mind if they are any good, have no pace and cannot defend against the modern forward!! You have one person even quoting name and height statistics...absolutely pathetic. I have no doubt the same t*ssers were saying Lee Brown was past his best and over the hill at 27.....and who is now an ever present for a team at the top end of this league! I notice with our recent run of results, comments are softening.....but the underlying negativity remains and for an absolute legend such as Lockyer, that is a disgrace. Totally agree,laughable that posters are now having to come up with all sorts of convoluted reasons why craig/lockyer only appear to be ok because of the way we set up. Time and again this season lockyer and craig have come out on top against good strikers like eaves,ched evans,the big blackpool boy and lyle taylor in one to one battles in the air and on the deck. They are not perfect but they are good players and if lockyer is out of contract at the end of the season it will be a miracle if we somehow keep hold of him. Totally agree with BB I hope Hugo reads this Craigs biggest critic ain’t you Hugo. |
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Post by Gassy on Mar 18, 2019 8:54:06 GMT
Lockyer has a really long contract with us I believe right?
Didn't DC sign him on a 5 year deal not too long ago?
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Post by Hugo the Elder on Mar 18, 2019 8:55:42 GMT
Totally agree,laughable that posters are now having to come up with all sorts of convoluted reasons why craig/lockyer only appear to be ok because of the way we set up. Time and again this season lockyer and craig have come out on top against good strikers like eaves,ched evans,the big blackpool boy and lyle taylor in one to one battles in the air and on the deck. They are not perfect but they are good players and if lockyer is out of contract at the end of the season it will be a miracle if we somehow keep hold of him. Totally agree with BB I hope Hugo reads this Craigs biggest critic ain’t you Hugo. Yep, I still don't rate him at all. |
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Post by markczgas on Mar 18, 2019 9:04:27 GMT
Totally agree with BB I hope Hugo reads this Craigs biggest critic ain’t you Hugo. Yep, I still don't rate him at all. becoming the new Tbone. |
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Post by Hugo the Elder on Mar 18, 2019 9:22:45 GMT
Yep, I still don't rate him at all. becoming the new Tbone. Shrug. Game of opinions innit. |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 18, 2019 9:29:55 GMT
Totally agree with BB I hope Hugo reads this Craigs biggest critic ain’t you Hugo. Yep, I still don't rate him at all. I thought I’d get you out of your nest |
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Post by warehamgas on Mar 18, 2019 10:02:20 GMT
Yep, I still don't rate him at all. becoming the new Tbone. Well, at least Hugo doesn’t go on about it. We know his views but he has opinions on all sorts. Some, all they did was turn threads into a criticism of DC, TL whatever. Hugo doesn’t do that. Not that he needs me to stand up for him, just saying. UTG! |
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Post by pirate on Mar 18, 2019 11:41:47 GMT
Lockyer has a really long contract with us I believe right? Didn't DC sign him on a 5 year deal not too long ago? There was no public confirmation of his length of contract. The BBC reported a "new undisclosed-length deal" and The Bristol Post a "new long-term deal." |
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Post by mehewmagic on Mar 18, 2019 11:43:18 GMT
Seriously, i just don't get it. 'Craig gets turned too easily'?! Look at the stats- our fantastic defensive record over the whole season is not because we have played defensive midfielders every match. Lockyer and Craig have saved our bacon and still people on here aren't satisfied. As I said, i just don't understand it. All about context. He does get turned too easily. What a surprise; he 30+ and never been a speed merchant. If he was speedier & younger he wouldn't be at LGE 1 level. Nothing wrong with any of the above. He has strengths & weaknesses. Quite normal. |
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Post by Gassy on Mar 18, 2019 12:23:42 GMT
Lockyer has a really long contract with us I believe right? Didn't DC sign him on a 5 year deal not too long ago? There was no public confirmation of his length of contract. The BBC reported a "new undisclosed-length deal" and The Bristol Post a "new long-term deal." Interesting, thanks for that. Either way, it was signed in January 2018 - a long term (for us) is anything over 2 years let's be honest. So even if Tom signed a 2.5 year deal, we'd still have him until end of next season (I suspect he probably signed 3 1/2 year deal personally) |
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Post by neilv93 on Mar 18, 2019 13:06:53 GMT
Lockyer has a really long contract with us I believe right? Didn't DC sign him on a 5 year deal not too long ago? There was no public confirmation of his length of contract. The BBC reported a "new undisclosed-length deal" and The Bristol Post a "new long-term deal." Please do not take this as gospel as they're only "video games" but both FIFA and Football Manager have him contracted until June 2021, so three-and-a-half-year deal. He's also our second highest earner (behind Bennett). They're usually accurate, FWIW. |
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Post by pirate on Mar 18, 2019 14:25:27 GMT
There was no public confirmation of his length of contract. The BBC reported a "new undisclosed-length deal" and The Bristol Post a "new long-term deal." Please do not take this as gospel as they're only "video games" but both FIFA and Football Manager have him contracted until June 2021, so three-and-a-half-year deal. He's also our second highest earner (behind Bennett). They're usually accurate, FWIW. Football Manager is usually quite accurate as they have researchers/scouts for each club and do a lot of diligent work to uncover factual information. For example, one of the FM researchers for Plymouth Argyle is an Argyle club analyst and there are pro clubs that use the Football Manager database for initial work to identify transfer targets and basic info. About 10 years ago Everton signed a deal with Sports Interactive to make use of the Football Manager database for recruiting purposes. Edit: Of course, there is also the case of Robbie Ryan and our former chief scout Paul Molesworth and his son tipping him off about Ryan's contract running down. Unfortunately that didn't turn out so well, but shows how their data can be used. |
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Post by warehamgas on Mar 18, 2019 15:20:36 GMT
There was no public confirmation of his length of contract. The BBC reported a "new undisclosed-length deal" and The Bristol Post a "new long-term deal." Please do not take this as gospel as they're only "video games" but both FIFA and Football Manager have him contracted until June 2021, so three-and-a-half-year deal. He's also our second highest earner (behind Bennett). They're usually accurate, FWIW. Blimey! Is Bennett our top earner? If so I hope Swindon are paying most of his wages. UTG! |
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Post by neilv93 on Mar 18, 2019 20:25:35 GMT
Please do not take this as gospel as they're only "video games" but both FIFA and Football Manager have him contracted until June 2021, so three-and-a-half-year deal. He's also our second highest earner (behind Bennett). They're usually accurate, FWIW. Football Manager is usually quite accurate as they have researchers/scouts for each club and do a lot of diligent work to uncover factual information. For example, one of the FM researchers for Plymouth Argyle is an Argyle club analyst and there are pro clubs that use the Football Manager database for initial work to identify transfer targets and basic info. About 10 years ago Everton signed a deal with Sports Interactive to make use of the Football Manager database for recruiting purposes. Edit: Of course, there is also the case of Robbie Ryan and our former chief scout Paul Molesworth and his son tipping him off him about his contract running down. Unfortunately that didn't turn out so well, but shows how their data can be used. Yeah I certainly wouldn't trust it absolutely 100% but it isn't often wrong that much. Great game too, btw. |
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Post by neilv93 on Mar 18, 2019 20:26:35 GMT
Please do not take this as gospel as they're only "video games" but both FIFA and Football Manager have him contracted until June 2021, so three-and-a-half-year deal. He's also our second highest earner (behind Bennett). They're usually accurate, FWIW. Blimey! Is Bennett our top earner? If so I hope Swindon are paying most of his wages. UTG! Apparently so, £4,000-per-week (Tom and THD just behind on £3,500-per-week). Like I say, might not be 100% but usually isn't too far wrong. |
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Post by mariobalotelli on Mar 18, 2019 20:32:54 GMT
Blimey! Is Bennett our top earner? If so I hope Swindon are paying most of his wages. UTG! Apparently so, £4,000-per-week (Tom and THD just behind on £3,500-per-week). Like I say, might not be 100% but usually isn't too far wrong. I seem to recall it being said that THD wasn't on much because of his injury history. |
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Post by neilv93 on Mar 18, 2019 22:06:03 GMT
Apparently so, £4,000-per-week (Tom and THD just behind on £3,500-per-week). Like I say, might not be 100% but usually isn't too far wrong. I seem to recall it being said that THD wasn't on much because of his injury history. Sorry, to correct myself, he's supposedly third-highest earner of £3,000-per-week. Still a lot but IMO hardly surprising given we signed him from a PL club (where he would've undoubtedly been on more). |
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Post by Icegas on Mar 19, 2019 11:49:20 GMT
I think anyone that are still knocking Locks and Craig needs to get a grip.The pair along with the whole back 5 have given us one of the best defensive records in the league and are not the problem for our bad season.
Craig was a championship standard/top level L1 player back in his prime and his experience is of great value for us.I still think he has a season or two in him as a L1 player.
Locks has played 250 plus? games for us and is already a legend of sorts here for being apart of what he has during his young career.
I think Tom has the ability to play in the Championship one day but not in the premier.There are natual strenghs in Toms game and also some very bad weakness ( his passing is awlful) I believe he would walk into most L1 teams backline and is apart of a decent Wales squad so has some clear talent there.
Locks will be a top L1 and championship player over the next 10 years,and with that being said he seems to love it here,and is a humble lad so with his lack of talent in some areas then maybe its a good thing for us as he could end up being apart of our club for another 250 games and more as no top club would like to take the gamble on him.
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