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Post by Deleted on Mar 16, 2019 22:12:20 GMT
Good report and agree with most of it, particularly the bit about having to play without international players. I'm starting to see your point about Upson too. Thought he carried our midfield today pretty much singlehandedly.
I'm clearly in the minority today though as I thought it was a poor game. Understandable, given the conditions but poor nonetheless. Did we ever look like scoring? We clearly set up to contain and appeared to have little ambition to go and win the game, which is disappointing when playing at home (especially when they put the prices up!), although again, understandable given our predicament.
And we are still in a predicament. With just two points separating us from League 2, we still have a hell of a lot to do to atay in this league.
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Post by Blackbeard on Mar 16, 2019 22:48:02 GMT
I thought that was a very entertaining match played by 2 teams prepared to give it a go. Charlton came for a win and you could see why they're near the top of the table. All the team contributed to the clean sheet, GC has got them all performing as a unit and whenever Charlton got into our box, there was always a body getting between the ball and our goal. I thought Kelly had a very good game; I'd like to see him and THD operating down the left with Sercs in the middle, with JCH and the Jak up front. That would be most interesting. Crying out to see this Kelly is more than adequate and think THD could be a creative outlet on the left Jak was a massive handful when he came on , Charlton would have struggled with both him and JCH all match Nichols didn’t do anything wrong but he’s three stone lighter than Jak it shows |
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Post by singupgas on Mar 16, 2019 22:59:23 GMT
Point gained.
I don't think everyone played great, few players off the pace, but can see that their is effort being put in by all involved. Stay up fighting.
Roll on next week.
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Post by twertonboy on Mar 16, 2019 23:03:18 GMT
I thought upson was awful today and us playing 3 defensive midfielders and sacrificing width really does kill us at times...
I watched upson a lot today and he didn’t ever pick a player but just ran into space when they had the ball or just kept in the shadows of the charlton players because he was out of position a lot.
Sercs had a shocker and Nichols proved to be back to non productive and didn’t even attempt to get into scoring positions...
Basically playing with no wingers gave charlton the chance to put 2 players on Jch as they had men over and Nichols then become too deep to get the ball...
The midfield played too deep today...
I hope we stay up but just hope we change back to playing with wingers and more balanced than playing to deep and just getting men behind the ball rather than being tighter...
Good effort today and we done charlton for fitness in the end as they tired in the end.
Feel gutted we didn’t win in the end but hey ho..up the gas
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Post by Topper Gas on Mar 16, 2019 23:21:38 GMT
I thought that was a very entertaining match played by 2 teams prepared to give it a go. Charlton came for a win and you could see why they're near the top of the table. All the team contributed to the clean sheet, GC has got them all performing as a unit and whenever Charlton got into our box, there was always a body getting between the ball and our goal. I thought Kelly had a very good game; I'd like to see him and THD operating down the left with Sercs in the middle, with JCH and the Jak up front. That would be most interesting. Crying out to see this Kelly is more than adequate and think THD could be a creative outlet on the left Jak was a massive handful when he came on , Charlton would have struggled with both him and JCH all match Nichols didn’t do anything wrong but he’s three stone lighter than Jak it shows The problem for Jak is that like Harrison was for most of his Rovers career, he seems to be far more effect when he comes and runs at a tiring defence. As far as Nichols he seems to have reverted back to his little boy lost approach from early in the season in the last 2 games. |
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Post by Topper Gas on Mar 16, 2019 23:24:03 GMT
I thought upson was awful today and us playing 3 defensive midfielders and sacrificing width really does kill us at times... I watched upson a lot today and he didn’t ever pick a player but just ran into space when they had the ball or just kept in the shadows of the charlton players because he was out of position a lot. Sercs had a shocker and Nichols proved to be back to non productive and didn’t even attempt to get into scoring positions... Basically playing with no wingers gave charlton the chance to put 2 players on Jch as they had men over and Nichols then become too deep to get the ball... The midfield played too deep today... I hope we stay up but just hope we change back to playing with wingers and more balanced than playing to deep and just getting men behind the ball rather than being tighter... Good effort today and we done charlton for fitness in the end as they tired in the end. Feel gutted we didn’t win in the end but hey ho..up the gas Not sure GC's got much choice given Rodman's gone missing again and Matthews seems well out of favour. It'll be interesting to see the type of wide players we bring in this summer. |
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Post by Dr Gas on Mar 17, 2019 1:36:35 GMT
I thought upson was awful today and us playing 3 defensive midfielders and sacrificing width really does kill us at times... I watched upson a lot today and he didn’t ever pick a player but just ran into space when they had the ball or just kept in the shadows of the charlton players because he was out of position a lot. Sercs had a shocker and Nichols proved to be back to non productive and didn’t even attempt to get into scoring positions... Basically playing with no wingers gave charlton the chance to put 2 players on Jch as they had men over and Nichols then become too deep to get the ball... The midfield played too deep today... I hope we stay up but just hope we change back to playing with wingers and more balanced than playing to deep and just getting men behind the ball rather than being tighter... Good effort today and we done charlton for fitness in the end as they tired in the end. Feel gutted we didn’t win in the end but hey ho..up the gas Not sure GC's got much choice given Rodman's gone missing again and Matthews seems well out of favour. It'll be interesting to see the type of wide players we bring in this summer. Do you have inside knowledge that we are going to?  |
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Post by Hugo the Elder on Mar 17, 2019 7:09:53 GMT
How can it be 2 lost, we were never in front?
Really well earned point in an even but entertaining game.
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Post by Topper Gas on Mar 17, 2019 9:04:34 GMT
Not sure GC's got much choice given Rodman's gone missing again and Matthews seems well out of favour. It'll be interesting to see the type of wide players we bring in this summer. Do you have inside knowledge that we are going to? Why wouldn't GC bring wide players in, there's no logic in not doing so when his favoured line up was 4-4-2 when he replaced DC. |
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Post by gasforeverman on Mar 17, 2019 9:10:27 GMT
A point gained against a good team. Ashame rodman and partridge werent available and holmes dennis didnt come on. They give us width. 9 games and surely another 10 points wld keep us up
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Post by Blueside on Mar 17, 2019 9:27:15 GMT
Good report and agree with most of it, particularly the bit about having to play without international players. I'm starting to see your point about Upson too. Thought he carried our midfield today pretty much singlehandedly. I'm clearly in the minority today though as I thought it was a poor game. Understandable, given the conditions but poor nonetheless. Did we ever look like scoring? We clearly set up to contain and appeared to have little ambition to go and win the game, which is disappointing when playing at home (especially when they put the prices up!), although again, understandable given our predicament. And we are still in a predicament. With just two points separating us from League 2, we still have a hell of a lot to do to atay in this league. Yes we did: JCH’s free kick in the first half drawing an absolutely stunning save from their keeper; Ollie Clarke’s power drive that went narrowlty wide; and Jak’s chance from JCH’s pass towards the end that was narrowly was offside....by about three yards, are three times that instantly spring to mind when we looked like scoring - a really good game of football |
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Post by stapletongas on Mar 17, 2019 9:59:36 GMT
Answer to the thread title is neither.
It was a point earned an that applies to both sides.
Evenly matched contest and we should take heart from that given Charlton’s league position.
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Post by Strange Gas on Mar 17, 2019 10:50:16 GMT
Great point and a good watch I’d say despite the biting wind I wasn’t prepared for! Midfield wasn’t really happening but was a mix of individual performances, wind and both teams cancelling each other out. Upson was marginally the weaker link for me but not much in it. Table still troublingly tight but makes game in hand ever more vital and loving the GD which looks like it really will matter
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Post by tommym9 on Mar 17, 2019 11:07:39 GMT
Thanks for the write up Steve.
For me I would swap Jak for Nichols next week. Thought he showed more in his cameo than Nichols did all game.
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Post by nickchippenhamgas on Mar 17, 2019 11:11:22 GMT
Good report and agree with most of it, particularly the bit about having to play without international players. I'm starting to see your point about Upson too. Thought he carried our midfield today pretty much singlehandedly. I'm clearly in the minority today though as I thought it was a poor game. Understandable, given the conditions but poor nonetheless. Did we ever look like scoring? We clearly set up to contain and appeared to have little ambition to go and win the game, which is disappointing when playing at home (especially when they put the prices up!), although again, understandable given our predicament. And we are still in a predicament. With just two points separating us from League 2, we still have a hell of a lot to do to atay in this league. We should look at teams below us rather than points that separate us, we look after ourselves from now till the end of the season, harvesting as many teams below us as possible and we’ll be fine |
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Post by CrispPusher on Mar 17, 2019 12:59:53 GMT
What is GC thinking playing OC, a tough tackling DM, right wing? Bizarre.
Real shame OC was wasted out wide on what was his 200th league appearance, get Nichols wide right and Jakubiak, who looked lively, alongside JCH for Plymouth.
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Post by markczgas on Mar 17, 2019 14:31:36 GMT
What is GC thinking playing OC, a tough tackling DM, right wing? Bizarre. Real shame OC was wasted out wide on what was his 200th league appearance, get Nichols wide right and Jakubiak, who looked lively, alongside JCH for Plymouth. OC was wide right ? He played on the right of 3 or 4 but wasn't getting chalk on his boots. Also because of that wind. the ball was very much on our left side first half and on our right second ( Ollie saw more of the ball then). Noticed, a lot giving low marks for our midfield yesterday - were we outplayed there yesterday ? There no.2 was very good as a wing back until late on and the lad Cullen was good, but thought Reeves did a lot of sideways stuff and was well-contained. Think Charlton look a better team than Pompey - could yet face each other in the play offs. |
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Post by peterhooper57 on Mar 17, 2019 14:31:59 GMT
What is GC thinking playing OC, a tough tackling DM, right wing? Bizarre. Real shame OC was wasted out wide on what was his 200th league appearance, get Nichols wide right and Jakubiak, who looked lively, alongside JCH for Plymouth. |
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Post by chilly1883 on Mar 17, 2019 14:37:38 GMT
Despite the 0-0 scoreline this was a good solid game of football between two in form teams in pretty atrocious conditions. The wind was always going to be key in this game and that is how it turned out but both teams tried to play football and were a credit to the game. An unchanged team has become the backbone of GC's Management and it was no real surprise after Tuesdays result. It is a great shame that the reward for 10 points out of the last 12 is that we still only stand 2 points out of the relegation places and even more incredible is the fact that we are in 13th place.yet only 2 points out of the relegation zone. Bonham 7 One excellent save before half time but that apart had very little to do. J. Clarke 7 Good solid performance but the problem is that whilst his defending is mainly good he gives us very little as regards attacking the opposition. Lockyer 9 Another outstanding performance containing Lyle Taylor quite easily and putting his body on the line. We will certainly miss him next week at Plymouth and I think it is totally wrong that we have to play one of our most important games without our captain just because the EFL only cancel Championship games or other matches have more than two players called up. It should be able to cancel a game if any team has a player missing. Craig 8.5 Again the central defence takes the most praise for the clean sheet and Tony was not far behind Lockyer in restricting Charlton to very few chances. Kelly 7 Kept Holmes-Dennis out of the team and gave a good all round performance . Upson 7 The only midfielder on anything like his best form , kept prompting and winning the ball and used it economically but really needed some help from the rest of the midfield. O. Clarke 5 Another poor performance apart from a stunning strike in the second half that looked a goal all the way before going just wide he looked completely out of sorts and struggled to get even straightforward things right. Ogogo 6 Tried hard but not much came off for him today and he appeared to still be showing the effects of his midweek injury. Sercombe 5 another struggling performance in an area where we were not at our best today but at least kept battling and unlucky not to score near the end when a fine tackle denied him.. Nichols 6 Some good work holding the ball up but again didn't look likely to score. Unluckt to be substituted as I would have withdrawn any one of Ogogo,Ollie Clarke or Sercombe. Clarke-Harris 7.5 was involved in so much all game and gave Charlton defenders a tough afternoon. Unfortunately today there was no match winner but it was not for the want of trying. he gives everything and in all honesty is everything that Stefan Payne wasn't. if only we had somebody alongside him who could take the pressure off him by scoring goals. Subs: Jakubiak 7 Brought some direct running to the forward line and took his chance very well after Clarke-Harris's pass only to be ruled offside. Sinclair NOLE Crowd 7 A reasonable crowd for the weather conditions. Ref 8 One of the best. Took no nonsence. Charlton 7 A good footballing side who probably shaded possession and yet we had the better chances. the weather conditions really favoured neither team and yet both played their part in an exciting 0-0. Gc Got most decisions right today and has done a fine job in masterminding good form. can he complete his task and see us safe? I hope he can. So we move on again to another challenging game against opponents who will fall behind us if we win next week. After last seasons unlucky and unjustified defeat there last season we owe them one and I very much hope we will not suffer because of the loss of Tom Lockyer to International call up. Was todays game a point gained or two points lost? I am not sure although I think a draw was a fair result. UTG Don't worry about losing Lockyer. He shouldn't be captain anyway. massive 🛎 end |
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Post by WeAreTheGas on Mar 17, 2019 14:38:26 GMT
What is GC thinking playing OC, a tough tackling DM, right wing? Bizarre. Real shame OC was wasted out wide on what was his 200th league appearance, get Nichols wide right and Jakubiak, who looked lively, alongside JCH for Plymouth. We play a midfield diamond, so none of our midfielders are playing ‘on the wing’ as such. Out of possession we do go from a diamond to a flat 4-4-2 though - where OC fills in on the right and Sercombe on the left. But as soon as we regain possession we revert to the diamond. We just have an in-possession formation and an out-of-possession formation. You have to do that when playing a diamond or else your fullbacks become too exposed with no protection in front of them. |
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