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Post by stokegiffordgas on Mar 19, 2019 19:06:56 GMT
Just saw highlights of Oxford v Bradford and wtf! Please efl don't allocate this idiot to any of our games this season, or indeed any season!
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Post by rusho'gas on Mar 19, 2019 19:16:29 GMT
What was all of that about? Bizarre bit of refereeing. Bradford must know they are going down with luck like that.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 19, 2019 19:25:41 GMT
Just saw highlights of Oxford v Bradford and wtf! Please efl don't allocate this idiot to any of our games this season, or indeed any season! Was this the incident where the goal kick was played by an Oxford player inside the area and should have been retaken? This followed a penalty appeal by Bradford.They played on and Oxford got the winner. The ref then embarked on discussions with everyone including the cat before allowing the goal.
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Post by stokegiffordgas on Mar 19, 2019 19:31:03 GMT
Yep only 3 from each side in the penalty area so easy to see how the officials might have missed that - - -
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Post by Deleted on Mar 19, 2019 19:35:34 GMT
Yep only 3 from each side in the penalty area so easy to see how the officials might have missed that - - - Apparently if it was not a penalty to Bradford a corner should have been given because the Oxford defender put the ball out. Then with players encroaching in the area the goal kick was taken and played by an Oxford player before it left the area. The whole decision took six minutes to sort out.
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Post by stokegiffordgas on Mar 19, 2019 19:40:03 GMT
Not a big fan of var but that might have worked here although how the lino hasn't flagged I don't know.
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Post by scoobydoogas on Mar 19, 2019 20:18:04 GMT
To call that ref a clown is a real insult to clowns.
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Post by Topper Gas on Mar 19, 2019 20:34:16 GMT
Yep only 3 from each side in the penalty area so easy to see how the officials might have missed that - - - Apparently if it was not a penalty to Bradford a corner should have been given because the Oxford defender put the ball out. Then with players encroaching in the area the goal kick was taken and played by an Oxford player before it left the area. The whole decision took six minutes to sort out. Pretty sure the ball left the area although there were 3 players in the area when the goalie took the goal kick, I can't understand why the goalie took it anyway as he must know the rules, more importantly why the ref having given the goal then disallowed, I assume when he realised his error, then allowed it again! I just wonder if Bradford will seek to have the game replayed given how bad the decision was and it could well help to relegate them come May.
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Post by Hudson1883 on Mar 19, 2019 20:34:41 GMT
The Oxford lad took his touch inside the box as well? Straight from the keepers pass.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 19, 2019 20:37:27 GMT
The Oxford lad took his touch inside the box as well? Straight from the keepers pass. Not clear on the pictures but apparently he did play the ball before the keepers kick left the area.
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Post by stokegiffordgas on Mar 19, 2019 20:52:09 GMT
One for Question of Sport but no one will believe what happened next. If Bradford get relegated by a point - - -
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Post by gasandelectricity on Mar 19, 2019 22:26:15 GMT
Why would the Lino at the complete other end of the pitch have anything to do with it? Surely all of this revolves around what went on at the Oxford end?
Weird, very weird.
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Post by Topper Gas on Mar 19, 2019 22:32:00 GMT
The Oxford lad took his touch inside the box as well? Straight from the keepers pass. Not clear on the pictures but apparently he did play the ball before the keepers kick left the area. It looks like he didn't to me but the rules are: Attacking players are not allowed inside the goal box when the goalkeeper is restarting the game with a goal kick. The goalkeeper should be the only player in the box at that time. The only time this might differ is if the goalkeeper is having problems with his kicking, due to an injury. In this case, one of the goalkeeper's teammates can take the goal kick Not sure how a ref and his two assistants could get it so wrong, as there were at least 3 players in the box when the goalie took the goal kick.
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Post by Hudson1883 on Mar 19, 2019 23:50:22 GMT
Not clear on the pictures but apparently he did play the ball before the keepers kick left the area. It looks like he didn't to me but the rules are: Attacking players are not allowed inside the goal box when the goalkeeper is restarting the game with a goal kick. The goalkeeper should be the only player in the box at that time. The only time this might differ is if the goalkeeper is having problems with his kicking, due to an injury. In this case, one of the goalkeeper's teammates can take the goal kick Not sure how a ref and his two assistants could get it so wrong, as there were at least 3 players in the box when the goalie took the goal kick. Maximum of one team mate allowed in the box during a goal kick, you say?! This is is quite incredible. Attachment Deleted
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Post by cj on Mar 20, 2019 12:03:15 GMT
Cant see anything wrong with it to be honest. It wasn't a penalty but the bloke missed an open goal. The players didn't appeal for the pen and the fans didn't appeal either. They were fuming the player missed his shot! Also to me the Oxford player didn't touch the ball until after the ball had left the box from the keepers goal kick. Ref made the right call to not give the penalty. However, the ref then changed his mind for no reason at all. Bare in mind that the linesman didn't flag for the pen either so how did the ref come to the conclusion, that after some time following Oxfords goal, that Oxfords goal shouldn't count but should be a penalty to Bradford? Quite right that the other linesman had to correct the ref, even though he was the furthest official away from the non penalty incident. Ultimately though, the ref originally made the right call. He then royally messed it up but in the end corrected himself to make the right call again.
Watching this clip (from a Bradford fan), you can hear no appeals for the penalty from Bradford fans but instead slating their player for missing the easy chance and you can see the Oxford player collect the ball outside the box from the goal kick. Watch the clip from 8 minutes and 50 seconds in...
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Post by markczgas on Mar 20, 2019 12:04:41 GMT
Why would the Lino at the complete other end of the pitch have anything to do with it? Surely all of this revolves around what went on at the Oxford end? Weird, very weird. One of the linos would have been at the right end of the pitch to see it all very clearly !
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Post by thegasman on Mar 20, 2019 12:37:27 GMT
Cant see anything wrong with it to be honest. It wasn't a penalty but the bloke missed an open goal. The players didn't appeal for the pen and the fans didn't appeal either. They were fuming the player missed his shot! Also to me the Oxford player didn't touch the ball until after the ball had left the box from the keepers goal kick. Ref made the right call to not give the penalty. However, the ref then changed his mind for no reason at all. Bare in mind that the linesman didn't flag for the pen either so how did the ref come to the conclusion, that after some time following Oxfords goal, that Oxfords goal shouldn't count but should be a penalty to Bradford? Quite right that the other linesman had to correct the ref, even though he was the furthest official away from the non penalty incident. Ultimately though, the ref originally made the right call. He then royally messed it up but in the end corrected himself to make the right call again. Still doesn't get over the fact that 4 Bradford players are in the box, when the goal kick is taken. FA rules are very clear on this infringement, that the kick should be retaken. The ref needs to re-educated.
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Post by gastropod on Mar 20, 2019 13:03:45 GMT
Excellent write-up of the incident here: oxblogger.co.uk/2019/03/17/the-wrap-oxford-united-1-bradford-city-0/It seems that their was no penalty for Bradford City, but a possibly illegal goal kick by Oxford Utd (because there were Bradford playes in the penalty area when the kick was taken). But if it was illegal it's just a minor mistake made by the officials - it's ludicrous to try and rewind the clock and disallow the goal at the other end... correct decision made eventually.
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Post by cj on Mar 20, 2019 13:35:18 GMT
Cant see anything wrong with it to be honest. It wasn't a penalty but the bloke missed an open goal. The players didn't appeal for the pen and the fans didn't appeal either. They were fuming the player missed his shot! Also to me the Oxford player didn't touch the ball until after the ball had left the box from the keepers goal kick. Ref made the right call to not give the penalty. However, the ref then changed his mind for no reason at all. Bare in mind that the linesman didn't flag for the pen either so how did the ref come to the conclusion, that after some time following Oxfords goal, that Oxfords goal shouldn't count but should be a penalty to Bradford? Quite right that the other linesman had to correct the ref, even though he was the furthest official away from the non penalty incident. Ultimately though, the ref originally made the right call. He then royally messed it up but in the end corrected himself to make the right call again. Still doesn't get over the fact that 4 Bradford players are in the box, when the goal kick is taken. FA rules are very clear on this infringement, that the kick should be retaken. The ref needs to re-educated.
If it is a rule (and I am not doubting it is) then it is a stupid rule. What's to stop an opposition player from staying in the box to stop the keeper from taking a goal kick, in an effort to time waste? Like when the keeper takes forever to take a goal kick to waste time!
Yes rules are rules but to me, this is no different to a quick free kick being taken where you have opposition players still within 10 yards of the ball when the free kick is taken. Ref's allow it and I cant see the harm in it. I bet this happens up and down the country each week.
I also bet not 1 single player of Bradford had complained to the ref that the Oxford goal shouldn't have been allowed because they were still in the Oxford box when the keeper took his quick goal kick.
Good decision by the officials at the time and the right outcome in the end. Although I rather it had ended 0-0 instead of Oxford taking the 3 points.
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Post by toddy1953 on Mar 20, 2019 14:31:01 GMT
I got stopped by the police once years ago as my tax disc had come unstuck from the windscreen and I had placed it face up on the dashboard. He explained the law & I said I didn’t realise - he said whether I realise or not I was still breaking the law. I wouldn’t have thought most footballers know all the minor rules, but they are rules never the less. The ref should know them & he had ample opportunity to realise his mistake & make Oxford retake the goal kick - if he says no one spotted the opposition in the pen area from the goal kick then that makes both Lino’s & the Ref totally incompetent, but nothing new here I suppose. I bet Walsall are as aggrieved as Bradford but there is still time for all those clubs around the mix to do something about it but what if this was the last game of the season & someone gets relegated in the last minute due to incompetent officals -I suppose if it don’t happen to us, the we wouldn’t worry.
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