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Post by Deleted on Mar 20, 2019 15:59:00 GMT
The goal celebration rule should be scrapped altogether - there are far more important things for the ref to be dealing with in 90 minutes.
I guess they've done the best they can with the time wasting at substitutions - will be interesting to see if teams try and bring other "tactics" into play to get round this.
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Post by gasheadbatesy on Mar 20, 2019 16:33:41 GMT
There was talk of a new penalty law where if the penalty is saved or rebounds back off the post, play is stopped and the goal keeper has pocession of the ball. That idea was scrapped.
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Post by curlywurly on Mar 20, 2019 17:22:09 GMT
The goal celebration rule should be scrapped altogether - there are far more important things for the ref to be dealing with in 90 minutes. .. I agree to a point.
There are two things with goal celebrations that should be punished in my view: 1. Deliberately winding up the opposition fans 2. Taking far too long to return to allow a restart
Neither of these are ever punished, whereas someone taking their shirt off or celebrating with their own fans is deemed a yellow. Seems like the logic is all wrong to me.
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Post by eastville1966 on Mar 20, 2019 17:54:38 GMT
Never liked the keeper taking a goal kick from the opposite side from where the ball went out.....if goalkeepers can do that then why not corner takers?
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Post by stokegiffordgas on Mar 21, 2019 6:52:42 GMT
I was hoping they might have removed that stupid rule where a defender can 'protect' the ball from an opposing player to as it runs out for a goal kick. Anywhere else on the pitch it is blatant obstruction but in this situation the balance is way too much in favour of the defender.
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Post by neilv93 on Mar 21, 2019 9:53:51 GMT
I was hoping they might have removed that stupid rule where a defender can 'protect' the ball from an opposing player to as it runs out for a goal kick. Anywhere else on the pitch it is blatant obstruction but in this situation the balance is way too much in favour of the defender. Interesting point actually, I'd love to see what would happen if JCH was doing that at the opponents end to win us a corner... I'll bet an opposing free kick in all likelihood.
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Post by mehewmagic on Mar 21, 2019 17:47:11 GMT
I seem to remember that the keepers not moving until the kick is taken is a reversal of an old rule (if some have stated is the interpretation). It changed in the past to allow keepers to move on their line but not move forward of the goal line until the kick is taken. It would have seemed sensible to go a little further with the subs rule and also prohibit substitutions in injury time. And while updating penalty rules they have missed a trick to clamp down further on these ridiculous run-ups some players do when taking a penalty.
I agree. Just run up and hit the thing! Just like John-Paul Pitman 🤣👍
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Post by mehewmagic on Mar 21, 2019 17:49:44 GMT
I was hoping they might have removed that stupid rule where a defender can 'protect' the ball from an opposing player to as it runs out for a goal kick. Anywhere else on the pitch it is blatant obstruction but in this situation the balance is way too much in favour of the defender. Not really. It's a skill, and you have to be within playing distance of the ball, so it's not any different to any other hold-up play anywhere else on the pitch.
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Post by mehewmagic on Mar 21, 2019 17:52:15 GMT
Never liked the keeper taking a goal kick from the opposite side from where the ball went out.....if goalkeepers can do that then why not corner takers? It's one of those classic situations. Something that was meant to speed up play (to stop goalies having to go and take it from the side of the pitch it went out on, even if the ball has now gone miles in the opposite direction...) but of course has been used to do the exact opposite; waste as much time as possible.
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Post by Gas Go Marching In on Mar 21, 2019 17:59:31 GMT
They’re laws not rules. SMH. Vanity project IMO.
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Post by hardingegas on Mar 21, 2019 23:23:54 GMT
Regarding goal celebrations - which are now becoming more ridiculous and extravagant - why not limit them to a fixed amount of time or better still allow the conceding team to restart the game immediately from the centre spot even if the opposition aren't in their own half. Potential crowd trouble from excessive celebrations solved instantly!
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Post by Antonio Fargas on Mar 21, 2019 23:45:54 GMT
Keepers not moving during penalties is... a bit peculiar. Don't think they've thought that through. How much movement is gonna constitute 'not moving'? It would be impossible to dive to the corner to stop even the most weekly hit shot if you can't move at all as the ball is hit.
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Post by Antonio Fargas on Mar 21, 2019 23:54:35 GMT
I was hoping they might have removed that stupid rule where a defender can 'protect' the ball from an opposing player to as it runs out for a goal kick. Anywhere else on the pitch it is blatant obstruction but in this situation the balance is way too much in favour of the defender. Absolutely. Be the quickest way to get more attacking play, as well.
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Post by warehamgas on Mar 22, 2019 0:06:47 GMT
The goal celebration rule should be scrapped altogether - there are far more important things for the ref to be dealing with in 90 minutes. .. I agree to a point.
There are two things with goal celebrations that should be punished in my view: 1. Deliberately winding up the opposition fans 2. Taking far too long to return to allow a restart
Neither of these are ever punished, whereas someone taking their shirt off or celebrating with their own fans is deemed a yellow. Seems like the logic is all wrong to me.
Yes. It’s especially annoying when we’ve conceded.😉 Seriously, all time wasting is annoying and I’d like to see a trial where the referee allows 1 minute to celebrate a goal and then will allow the conceding team to kick off irrespective of where the opposition is. In other words if the team have no players in their own half the team could still kick off. I reckon that would concentrate the mind. But they wouldn’t dare do it. UTG!
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Post by stokegiffordgas on Mar 22, 2019 9:32:27 GMT
Not really. It's a skill, and you have to be within playing distance of the ball, so it's not any different to any other hold-up play anywhere else on the pitch.
Can't agree that's a skill. Most times it is blatant obstruction giving the attacking player no chance of getting the ball. That plays into the hands of weak referees too. Just occasionally I have seen referees penalise the defender but only once in a blue moon.
Rule needs scrapping.
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