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Post by tbonegas on Mar 31, 2019 15:30:33 GMT
When the crap central defender departs this club. I will stop. Mr Stevek192 has a love in with him. For some reason. Why have you picked on me and not the Roving Reporter. His incessant over marking of Craig is more irritating than my occasional reference to him being installed as captain. SteveK makes regular, helpful, informed, and well-reasoned contributions to the forum. Even if you don't agree with him, you can't say he doesn't show his working and isn't prepared to discuss his view reasonably. Otoh... He carries out regular match reports. That's all. He rarely explains his thoughts when people challenge them. Nor does he reply very often when people ask him to explain his markings or views on matches. I have asked him many questions, but today is the 1st time he has replied.
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Post by Antonio Fargas on Mar 31, 2019 16:16:06 GMT
SteveK makes regular, helpful, informed, and well-reasoned contributions to the forum. Even if you don't agree with him, you can't say he doesn't show his working and isn't prepared to discuss his view reasonably. Otoh... He carries out regular match reports. That's all. He rarely explains his thoughts when people challenge them. Nor does he reply very often when people ask him to explain his markings or views on matches. I have asked him many questions, but today is the 1st time he has replied. Ah well, bit better than just saying clueless over and over again for two years and when called on it simply replying 'I'm always right.'
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Post by lpgas on Mar 31, 2019 16:28:00 GMT
Tony Craig is part of our problem. A squad full of players not good enough. Doncaster and Luton showed us recently the quality we need to compete and our results against the top 7 also prove that. I’m not sure how anyone can say otherwise or argue our league position is false. Craig is better than Clarke or Partington and Danny and probably Mayonaise too. Our biggest problem is at the other end
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Post by stigofthegas on Mar 31, 2019 16:39:31 GMT
SteveK makes regular, helpful, informed, and well-reasoned contributions to the forum. Even if you don't agree with him, you can't say he doesn't show his working and isn't prepared to discuss his view reasonably. Otoh... He carries out regular match reports. That's all. He rarely explains his thoughts when people challenge them. Nor does he reply very often when people ask him to explain his markings or views on matches. I have asked him many questions, but today is the 1st time he has replied. I think 95% of the forum have learnt to ignore you. Why do you pick on SteveK?
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Post by albaron on Mar 31, 2019 16:46:09 GMT
Our problems yesterday were all in the middle. Upson wasn't too bad but the others very mediocre. Sercombe was a passanger. If we stay up we need to spend money in this area.
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Post by tbonegas on Mar 31, 2019 17:01:25 GMT
He carries out regular match reports. That's all. He rarely explains his thoughts when people challenge them. Nor does he reply very often when people ask him to explain his markings or views on matches. I have asked him many questions, but today is the 1st time he has replied. I think 95% of the forum have learnt to ignore you. Why do you pick on SteveK? It warms my heart that the likes of you are in the 5% that have not ignored me. You friendship is very much appreciated.
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Post by aghast on Mar 31, 2019 17:28:38 GMT
For me Craig is one of the most underrated players I’ve ever seen for Rovers. Game of opinions I guess but the stats don’t lie, with him in the side we’ve been very stable and had one of the best defensive records. One of the most underrated players you've ever seen? There's loads of players who have contributed to the results that he just happens to be involved in. He's slow, he's cost us points, he can go. As rossgb says, it's all about opinions, but those two above are pretty diverse opinions. I can handle opinions like "Nichols contributes a lot even if he never scores" or "This season's kit is rubbish". But how can Craig possibly divide opinion so much amongst fans that it ranges from being 'one of our best players this season' to 'slow as a donkey and a total liability'?
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Post by tommym9 on Mar 31, 2019 17:36:41 GMT
Thanks for the write up Steve.
Saw JC screaming at OC a couple of times to come across and help when the Luton full back pushed on. He really didn't get much help.
I would score Nichols down. He was too lightweight and I would be looking at giving Jak or Reilly a go up top with JCH.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 31, 2019 19:02:58 GMT
SteveK makes regular, helpful, informed, and well-reasoned contributions to the forum. Even if you don't agree with him, you can't say he doesn't show his working and isn't prepared to discuss his view reasonably. Otoh... He carries out regular match reports. That's all. He rarely explains his thoughts when people challenge them. Nor does he reply very often when people ask him to explain his markings or views on matches. I have asked him many questions, but today is the 1st time he has replied. People are advised to avoid feeding trolls - perhaps that's why you don't often get replies?
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Post by manorfarmgas on Mar 31, 2019 19:19:12 GMT
I think 95% of the forum have learnt to ignore you. Why do you pick on SteveK? It warms my heart that the likes of you are in the 5% that have not ignored me. You friendship is very much appreciated. Your wilfully provocative manner and constant repetition of the same points are seriously impairing my enjoyment of this forum, and evidently that of others. If this was just a newspaper or A.N.Other internet forum that you were polluting, that'd be fine. But this is a place for people to build aspects of a Rovers community and help discuss things in a way that helps push the club forward or at least provide a new perspective or food for thought. Obviously you can do what you want, and are unlikely to give a monkey's - but I wanted you to be under no illusions that, for me at least, you and other people who play the same game are the reason for my decreasing level of engagement with Gaschat.
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Post by noblegas on Mar 31, 2019 19:21:29 GMT
One of the most underrated players you've ever seen? There's loads of players who have contributed to the results that he just happens to be involved in. He's slow, he's cost us points, he can go. As rossgb says, it's all about opinions, but those two above are pretty diverse opinions. I can handle opinions like "Nichols contributes a lot even if he never scores" or "This season's kit is rubbish". But how can Craig possibly divide opinion so much amongst fans that it ranges from being 'one of our best players this season' to 'slow as a donkey and a total liability'? It's so weird. I have a really strong opinion on Craig, and I find it genuinely bemusing that other people who watch the same match as me every other week feel so strongly to the contrary! It goes without saying that I'm right, obvs.
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Post by Hugo the Elder on Mar 31, 2019 19:46:48 GMT
As rossgb says, it's all about opinions, but those two above are pretty diverse opinions. I can handle opinions like "Nichols contributes a lot even if he never scores" or "This season's kit is rubbish". But how can Craig possibly divide opinion so much amongst fans that it ranges from being 'one of our best players this season' to 'slow as a donkey and a total liability'? It's so weird. I have a really strong opinion on Craig, and I find it genuinely bemusing that other people who watch the same match as me every other week feel so strongly to the contrary! It goes without saying that I'm right, obvs. That depends on which side of the fence you are on. ![;)](//storage.proboards.com/forum/images/smiley/wink.png)
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Post by Hugo the Elder on Mar 31, 2019 19:50:14 GMT
Tony Craig is part of our problem. A squad full of players not good enough. Doncaster and Luton showed us recently the quality we need to compete and our results against the top 7 also prove that. I’m not sure how anyone can say otherwise or argue our league position is false. Craig is better than Clarke or Partington and Danny and probably Mayonaise too. Our biggest problem is at the other end Clarke has been our best defender all season by a country mile. What makes me laugh is all the people who say "look at our defensive record, Craig must be good" are the same people looking at Nichols scoring record and telling us what a fantastic footballer he is.
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Post by justin blue on Mar 31, 2019 19:59:40 GMT
Agree with the OP didn't expect anything from our last two and didn't get anything. It has just confirmed what we all already know, that we can't compete with the best in this division. I don't however think we are as bad as we are being painted on this thread. When we thrashed Blackpool just a couple weeks ago many were waxing lyrical about how we had totally outplayed them. The fact is the top teams in this league are so much better than the rest that they are almost unplayable for teams as limited as ours. We have nevertheless shown that we can beat anything below the top six and as we only have Barnsley left to play of the top six we have a good chance of staying safe.
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Post by tbonegas on Mar 31, 2019 20:14:29 GMT
It warms my heart that the likes of you are in the 5% that have not ignored me. You friendship is very much appreciated. Your wilfully provocative manner and constant repetition of the same points are seriously impairing my enjoyment of this forum, and evidently that of others. If this was just a newspaper or A.N.Other internet forum that you were polluting, that'd be fine. But this is a place for people to build aspects of a Rovers community and help discuss things in a way that helps push the club forward or at least provide a new perspective or food for thought. Obviously you can do what you want, and are unlikely to give a monkey's - but I wanted you to be under no illusions that, for me at least, you and other people who play the same game are the reason for my decreasing level of engagement with Gaschat. Delete yourself then. Put yourself out of your misery.
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Post by Topper Gas on Mar 31, 2019 20:34:07 GMT
Agree with the OP didn't expect anything from our last two and didn't get anything. It has just confirmed what we all already know, that we can't compete with the best in this division. I don't however think we are as bad as we are being painted on this thread. When we thrashed Blackpool just a couple weeks ago many were waxing lyrical about how we had totally outplayed them. The fact is the top teams in this league are so much better than the rest that they are almost unplayable for teams as limited as ours. We have nevertheless shown that we can beat anything below the top six and as we only have Barnsley left to play of the top six we have a good chance of staying safe. Is Clark really one of our best defenders or just a player who always gives 100%? The number of times he backs off when a pacy RW runs at him is ridiculous. As far as Craig he's a decent defender but having him and Locks together is frustrating as neither can pass, plus why do we need a wall of 3 CM's in front of our CB's if they are as good as posters like to think they are? As soon as we move away from that formation we got well and truly spanked by Donny.
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Post by justin blue on Mar 31, 2019 21:08:02 GMT
Agree with the OP didn't expect anything from our last two and didn't get anything. It has just confirmed what we all already know, that we can't compete with the best in this division. I don't however think we are as bad as we are being painted on this thread. When we thrashed Blackpool just a couple weeks ago many were waxing lyrical about how we had totally outplayed them. The fact is the top teams in this league are so much better than the rest that they are almost unplayable for teams as limited as ours. We have nevertheless shown that we can beat anything below the top six and as we only have Barnsley left to play of the top six we have a good chance of staying safe. Is Clark really one of our best defenders or just a player who always gives 100%? The number of times he backs off when a pacy RW runs at him is ridiculous. As far as Craig he's a decent defender but having him and Locks together is frustrating as neither can pass, plus why do we need a wall of 3 CM's in front of our CB's if they are as good as posters like to think they are? As soon as we move away from that formation we got well and truly spanked by Donny. I should have said I only agreed with the OP that I didn't expect to get anything from the last two games. Our defense generally has not been the reason for our predicament.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 31, 2019 21:43:51 GMT
Your wilfully provocative manner and constant repetition of the same points are seriously impairing my enjoyment of this forum, and evidently that of others. If this was just a newspaper or A.N.Other internet forum that you were polluting, that'd be fine. But this is a place for people to build aspects of a Rovers community and help discuss things in a way that helps push the club forward or at least provide a new perspective or food for thought. Obviously you can do what you want, and are unlikely to give a monkey's - but I wanted you to be under no illusions that, for me at least, you and other people who play the same game are the reason for my decreasing level of engagement with Gaschat. Delete yourself then. Put yourself out of your misery. Would work better for everyone on here if you left - do the honourable thing for benefit of the majority. If you think it's an exaggeration start a poll and see how many people want you to stay?
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Post by noblegas on Mar 31, 2019 22:51:23 GMT
Craig is better than Clarke or Partington and Danny and probably Mayonaise too. Our biggest problem is at the other end Clarke has been our best defender all season by a country mile. What makes me laugh is all the people who say "look at our defensive record, Craig must be good" are the same people looking at Nichols scoring record and telling us what a fantastic footballer he is. Hugo- don't think there's necessarily a correlation there. I feel that one of those players is massively important, the other shouldn't be anywhere near the first team
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Post by William Wilson on Apr 1, 2019 6:45:29 GMT
Yesterday I saw Sercombe run from an attacking position back towards the centre backs who had possession, receive the ball, pass it back to the centre back, then turn around and run back again. He did this at least three times. Is this some sort of code? Are you making contact with your Russian controller on here? Is it Oldie?
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