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Post by rambo on Apr 2, 2019 6:38:14 GMT
People need to chill out - in 2017 yhe 2016 accounts didn't show on Companies House until 7 April but were signed 30 March. Last year they were signed in Feb but not submitted until late March.
This is almost certainly purely a timing issue and they will appear this week some time.
Companies House will be busy around quarter ends as they have to deal with increased volume of submitted accounts at this time.
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Post by peterparker on Apr 2, 2019 7:14:10 GMT
They dont have to have an AGM as a private co unless stated anywhere in articles of association They own 92% of the club so in some respects an AGM is irrelevant. Any business to be voted on would be passed by them on their shareholding The accounts will have to be submitted and published on companies house as public record Confirmation statement is now online. Likely the accounts are submitted and awaiting to be uploaded If what Severncider suggests is correct then whether or not an AGM is due to take place seems a minor side issue. Although is the potential sale suggestion just another rumour being put about and is not the real reason for the delay in the results being published. The accounts have to be made public or they will be fined all be it only around £375.
They can't be kept top secret.
Most likely they are submitted and are simply awaiting to be uploaded
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Post by Topper Gas on Apr 2, 2019 7:17:24 GMT
If what Severncider suggests is correct then whether or not an AGM is due to take place seems a minor side issue. Although is the potential sale suggestion just another rumour being put about and is not the real reason for the delay in the results being published. The accounts have to be made public or they will be fined all be it only around £375.
They can't be kept top secret.
Most likely they are submitted and our simply awaiting to be uploaded
Or Severncider is correct!
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Post by BishopstonBRFC on Apr 2, 2019 7:30:00 GMT
The accounts have to be made public or they will be fined all be it only around £375.
They can't be kept top secret.
Most likely they are submitted and our simply awaiting to be uploaded
Or Severncider is correct! Like every other time he causes a sh** storm?
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Post by peterparker on Apr 2, 2019 7:48:20 GMT
The accounts have to be made public or they will be fined all be it only around £375.
They can't be kept top secret.
Most likely they are submitted and our simply awaiting to be uploaded
Or Severncider is correct! or watering in the wind.
The Accountants will most likely submit the accounts to companies house, so the only way for Severncider's hypothesis to be true is that Hani has not signed the accounts off.
What Dwane will actually be acheived by doing that is precisely nothing.
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Post by Severncider on Apr 2, 2019 7:57:15 GMT
Or Severncider is correct! or watering in the wind.
The Accountants will most likely submit the accounts to companies house, so the only way for Severncider's hypothesis to be true is that Hani has not signed the accounts off.
What Dwane will actually be acheived by doing that is precisely nothing.
The accounts have to be signed off by the Chairman.
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Post by stuart1974 on Apr 2, 2019 7:59:06 GMT
Or Severncider is correct! or watering in the wind.
The Accountants will most likely submit the accounts to companies house, so the only way for Severncider's hypothesis to be true is that Hani has not signed the accounts off.
What Dwane will actually be acheived by doing that is precisely nothing.
Precisely, other than a spot of PR iro timing there is nothing to benefit from a deliberate delay. It would only be by a few days and any agreement to buy or invest would have already been agreed.
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Post by mjg on Apr 2, 2019 8:09:10 GMT
or watering in the wind.
The Accountants will most likely submit the accounts to companies house, so the only way for Severncider's hypothesis to be true is that Hani has not signed the accounts off.
What Dwane will actually be acheived by doing that is precisely nothing.
The accounts have to be signed off by the Chairman. By a Director on behalf of the Board. Doesn't have to be the Chairman.
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Post by peterparker on Apr 2, 2019 8:12:40 GMT
or watering in the wind.
The Accountants will most likely submit the accounts to companies house, so the only way for Severncider's hypothesis to be true is that Hani has not signed the accounts off.
What Dwane will actually be acheived by doing that is precisely nothing.
The accounts have to be signed off by the Chairman. yes an no. only needs to be signed by a director of the company, and again in your above scenario what does Steve Hamer acheive by not signing them off. He either hasn't done it because he has been told not to or he he just hasn't and again what do Dwane acheive in doing so
In the past 2 sets of accounts Hani has signed to say they will continue to fund the club via rolling credit facility. That is the ultimate factor in getting the accounts passed
As an aside I have no idea how the club does its management accounts or how a football club takeover works as football operates in a world world
In the real world though, where I work, we have created an artificial month end and produced management accounts and thus a ‘real-time’ P+L and balance sheet when the company was being taking over for an accurate financial position of the company
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Post by Topper Gas on Apr 2, 2019 9:53:24 GMT
or watering in the wind.
The Accountants will most likely submit the accounts to companies house, so the only way for Severncider's hypothesis to be true is that Hani has not signed the accounts off.
What Dwane will actually be acheived by doing that is precisely nothing.
Precisely, other than a spot of PR iro timing there is nothing to benefit from a deliberate delay. It would only be by a few days and any agreement to buy or invest would have already been agreed. It could be months if DS feel it's worth paying a token fine whilst they sell the club, I guess we'll know in a week or two if there's anything in this if the accounts have still not appeared online.
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Post by supergas on Apr 2, 2019 9:59:48 GMT
I’d love it if a new group bought the club and gave us everything we want..... The rest of us would hate it.... F#&king hell, our strike partnership are only scoring 50 goals a season, when will one of them step up and bang in 35+ whilst the other still scores 25... F#&king hell, our defence only kept 9 clean sheets out of 10, when will they learn how to defend properly... F#&king hell, our midfield's pass completion rate was only 99%, when will they get the other one pass every hundred correct.... F#&king hell, this new stand has great seats, great sightlines, nice toilets and a decent bar BUT WHY CAN'T I GET A SAUSAGE ROLL DELIVERED TO MY SEAT AT HALF TIME.... ...etc....etc....
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Post by chewbacca on Apr 2, 2019 10:03:55 GMT
When the AGM drops.
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Post by peterparker on Apr 2, 2019 10:14:07 GMT
Precisely, other than a spot of PR iro timing there is nothing to benefit from a deliberate delay. It would only be by a few days and any agreement to buy or invest would have already been agreed. It could be months if DS feel it's worth paying a token fine whilst they sell the club, I guess we'll know in a week or two if there's anything in this if the accounts have still not appeared online. again what is the point. We all know the financial position to some degree. 13m+ or whatever owed to Dwane Sports as per the last set of accounts.
Anyone buying or investing in the club would or should know what they are undertaking regardless of year end accounts
As I highlighted above a takeover in the real world at least will want to know the financial position at random x date as that would be the basis of paying/writing of etc, etc
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Post by chewbacca on Apr 2, 2019 10:21:14 GMT
It could be months if DS feel it's worth paying a token fine whilst they sell the club, I guess we'll know in a week or two if there's anything in this if the accounts have still not appeared online. again what is the point. We all know the financial position to some degree. 13m+ or whatever owed to Dwane Sports as per the last set of accounts.
Anyone buying or investing in the club would or should know what they are undertaking regardless of year end accounts
As I highlighted above a takeover in the real world at least will want to know the financial position at random x date as that would be the basis of paying/writing of etc, etc
I mean, they should know but clearly didn't.
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Post by peterparker on Apr 2, 2019 10:25:01 GMT
again what is the point. We all know the financial position to some degree. 13m+ or whatever owed to Dwane Sports as per the last set of accounts.
Anyone buying or investing in the club would or should know what they are undertaking regardless of year end accounts
As I highlighted above a takeover in the real world at least will want to know the financial position at random x date as that would be the basis of paying/writing of etc, etc
I mean, they should know but clearly didn't. The Al-Qadi's maybe, but what about the phantom takeover that is happening now
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Post by farmygas on Apr 2, 2019 10:31:38 GMT
Oh my Goddd, THE P.T.A HAS DISBANDED!!!
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Post by chewbacca on Apr 2, 2019 10:43:18 GMT
I mean, they should know but clearly didn't. The Al-Qadi's maybe, but what about the phantom takeover that is happening now I really hope the holding company is called "Phantom Takeover" now.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 2, 2019 10:46:08 GMT
I mean, they should know but clearly didn't. The Al-Qadi's maybe, but what about the phantom takeover that is happening now Best get Scooby on the case pronto!
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Post by Deleted on Apr 2, 2019 11:36:13 GMT
Oh my Goddd, THE P.T.A HAS DISBANDED!!! parents teachers association?
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Post by chewbacca on Apr 2, 2019 11:42:19 GMT
Oh my Goddd, THE P.T.A HAS DISBANDED!!! parents teachers association? Phantom Takeover Army.
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