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Post by I Voted For Kodos on Apr 2, 2019 11:54:05 GMT
Oh my Goddd, THE P.T.A HAS DISBANDED!!! parents teachers association?
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Post by warehamgas on Apr 2, 2019 12:17:27 GMT
It is a worry but I try to ignore it. The relegation scrap we’re in comes first and foremost and worrying about things we can’t see or do anything about just isn’t worth it. I’d love it if a new group bought the club and gave us everything we want but it’s never happened before so I won’t hold my breathe and just keep supporting the team. This. UTG!
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Post by mariobalotelli on Apr 2, 2019 12:27:51 GMT
They dont have to have an AGM as a private co unless stated anywhere in articles of association They own 92% of the club so in some respects an AGM is irrelevant. Any business to be voted on would be passed by them on their shareholding The accounts will have to be submitted and published on companies house as public record Confirmation statement is now online. Likely the accounts are submitted and awaiting to be uploaded If what Severncider suggests is correct then whether or not an AGM is due to take place seems a minor side issue. Although is the potential sale suggestion just another rumour being put about and is not the real reason for the delay in the results being published. Nothing severncider ever suggests is correct.
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Post by daniel300380 on Apr 2, 2019 13:13:34 GMT
A delay could be because of something simple, like the auditor's are still completing minor details.
It could be because they want to delay it. They might want to delay it because of possible positive news, but then again, it could be due to bad news.
Most on here will always say it has to be bad. But they might want to say what they have spent money on, when realising the accounts, but they are not quite there yet.
Either way we should find out how commented they are, when they are released. Are they still spending money looking into possible projects etc.
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Post by lpgas on Apr 2, 2019 13:25:39 GMT
Her we go, a potential sale / investor/ UWE/ New site/ More Tents/ man in black/ Southern building firm/ man from the Ilse of Man, and on and on and on infinitum. Me, I just go to watch the footy. Gave up rumours when I was 15
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Post by matealotblue on Apr 2, 2019 13:31:51 GMT
Her we go, a potential sale / investor/ UWE/ New site/ More Tents/ man in black/ Southern building firm/ man from the Ilse of Man, and on and on and on infinitum. Me, I just go to watch the footy. Gave up rumours when I was 15 Was a good album though.....
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Post by peterparker on Apr 2, 2019 13:32:26 GMT
Her we go, a potential sale / investor/ UWE/ New site/ More Tents/ man in black/ Southern building firm/ man from the Ilse of Man, and on and on and on infinitum. Me, I just go to watch the footy. Gave up rumours when I was 15 Don't forget generally talking rubbish about stuff people don't know about
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Post by spiess1 on Apr 2, 2019 13:46:28 GMT
''Don't forget generally talking rubbish about stuff people don't know about ''
So you're including football too then, PP!
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Post by daniel300380 on Apr 2, 2019 13:54:56 GMT
Her we go, a potential sale / investor/ UWE/ New site/ More Tents/ man in black/ Southern building firm/ man from the Ilse of Man, and on and on and on infinitum. Me, I just go to watch the footy. Gave up rumours when I was 15 If that was true, you wouldn't be reading through them all the time. I try not to listen to them, but I can't help it. Think we all have a look and hope, every now and again lol
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Post by Topper Gas on Apr 2, 2019 14:03:01 GMT
It could be months if DS feel it's worth paying a token fine whilst they sell the club, I guess we'll know in a week or two if there's anything in this if the accounts have still not appeared online. again what is the point. We all know the financial position to some degree. 13m+ or whatever owed to Dwane Sports as per the last set of accounts.
Anyone buying or investing in the club would or should know what they are undertaking regardless of year end accounts
As I highlighted above a takeover in the real world at least will want to know the financial position at random x date as that would be the basis of paying/writing of etc, etc
I can't see Severncider has suggested they are delayed to hide anything from a prospective purchaser as I assume DD would show the true picture anyway. I wonder what will come first a 100 pages on this thread or our accounts appearing online?
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Post by peterparker on Apr 2, 2019 14:23:00 GMT
again what is the point. We all know the financial position to some degree. 13m+ or whatever owed to Dwane Sports as per the last set of accounts.
Anyone buying or investing in the club would or should know what they are undertaking regardless of year end accounts
As I highlighted above a takeover in the real world at least will want to know the financial position at random x date as that would be the basis of paying/writing of etc, etc
I can't see Severncider has suggested they are delayed to hide anything from a prospective purchaser as I assume DD would show the true picture anyway. I wonder what will come first a 100 pages on this thread or our accounts appearing online? I don't beleieve I said they are trying to hide anything from a perspective buyer, however Severnciders post says the following
My understanding is that the audited accounts may have been received back from the Accountants BUT the Directors do NOT want to publish these at the moment.
So Severnicider is insinuating the directors don't want to publish them for SOME reason. In short of deliberately not filing them, the accounts will have to be public soon
I could be wrong, but have the feeling that they hope a takeover will take place shortly and the current custodians hope to kick this down the road for any new incumbents.
tied to the above, 1) what does that mean? 2) suggest they are trying to hide some bad news and let new owners answer the questions?
The financial year ends on 30th June each year, so I must assume that the AGM for 2017/18 must take place before 30th June 2019.
An assumption which I can only assume is just wrong, given a private company doesn't have to hold an AGM
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Post by Topper Gas on Apr 2, 2019 17:57:32 GMT
I can't see Severncider has suggested they are delayed to hide anything from a prospective purchaser as I assume DD would show the true picture anyway. I wonder what will come first a 100 pages on this thread or our accounts appearing online? I don't beleieve I said they are trying to hide anything from a perspective buyer, however Severnciders post says the following
My understanding is that the audited accounts may have been received back from the Accountants BUT the Directors do NOT want to publish these at the moment.
So Severnicider is insinuating the directors don't want to publish them for SOME reason. In short of deliberately not filing them, the accounts will have to be public soon
I could be wrong, but have the feeling that they hope a takeover will take place shortly and the current custodians hope to kick this down the road for any new incumbents.
tied to the above, 1) what does that mean? 2) suggest they are trying to hide some bad news and let new owners answer the questions?
The financial year ends on 30th June each year, so I must assume that the AGM for 2017/18 must take place before 30th June 2019.
An assumption which I can only assume is just wrong, given a private company doesn't have to hold an AGM
Rovers have always held an AGM so I think you are wrong, although it's anybody's guess if Severncider has just made up what he posted or has a source for his info.
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Post by peterparker on Apr 2, 2019 18:17:58 GMT
I don't beleieve I said they are trying to hide anything from a perspective buyer, however Severnciders post says the following
My understanding is that the audited accounts may have been received back from the Accountants BUT the Directors do NOT want to publish these at the moment.
So Severnicider is insinuating the directors don't want to publish them for SOME reason. In short of deliberately not filing them, the accounts will have to be public soon
I could be wrong, but have the feeling that they hope a takeover will take place shortly and the current custodians hope to kick this down the road for any new incumbents.
tied to the above, 1) what does that mean? 2) suggest they are trying to hide some bad news and let new owners answer the questions?
The financial year ends on 30th June each year, so I must assume that the AGM for 2017/18 must take place before 30th June 2019.
An assumption which I can only assume is just wrong, given a private company doesn't have to hold an AGM
Rovers have always held an AGM so I think you are wrong, although it's anybody's guess if Severncider has just made up what he posted or has a source for his info. I am only assuming as I said. If severncider can do it, so cant all of us. Just because there has always been an AGM (and there may still be one) doesnt necessarily mean there will have to be one And even if there is, what is going to happen? Nothing other than possibly a few awkward questions from the small smattering of people who can attend
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Post by Deleted on Apr 2, 2019 18:26:36 GMT
When i was a kid watching rovers with my dad[1968-75] i can never remember him telling me "big trouble at rovers son,the AGM is overdue". Maybe he did and i just forgot
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Post by knowall on Apr 2, 2019 19:44:47 GMT
Rovers have always held an AGM so I think you are wrong, although it's anybody's guess if Severncider has just made up what he posted or has a source for his info. I am only assuming as I said. If severncider can do it, so cant all of us. Just because there has always been an AGM (and there may still be one) doesnt necessarily mean there will have to be one And even if there is, what is going to happen? Nothing other than possibly a few awkward questions from the small smattering of people who can attend maybe you don't care what is happening at Rovers, but then you may not have invested millions like the supporters club and presidents club whose members will lose out if the Club goes bust? the AGM is the only real chance for the support groups to bring the owners to task - who at the moment may be bringing the Club to oblivion - and you don't care? how much have you put into the Club? - my guess - nothing?
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Post by mjg on Apr 2, 2019 19:51:37 GMT
I don't beleieve I said they are trying to hide anything from a perspective buyer, however Severnciders post says the following
My understanding is that the audited accounts may have been received back from the Accountants BUT the Directors do NOT want to publish these at the moment.
So Severnicider is insinuating the directors don't want to publish them for SOME reason. In short of deliberately not filing them, the accounts will have to be public soon
I could be wrong, but have the feeling that they hope a takeover will take place shortly and the current custodians hope to kick this down the road for any new incumbents.
tied to the above, 1) what does that mean? 2) suggest they are trying to hide some bad news and let new owners answer the questions?
The financial year ends on 30th June each year, so I must assume that the AGM for 2017/18 must take place before 30th June 2019.
An assumption which I can only assume is just wrong, given a private company doesn't have to hold an AGM
Rovers have always held an AGM so I think you are wrong, although it's anybody's guess if Severncider has just made up what he posted or has a source for his info. Ok, last go. A private company does not have to hold an AGM unless the Articles of Association require it to do so. I can only suggest that if you really want to know whether an AGM has to happen for this particular private limited company you go onto Companies House website and read the Articles rather than making assumptions. Just because an AGM may have taken place before doesn't on its own mean it has to happen again. Just as an aside, normally the minimum notice period for an AGM of a private company is 14 days, although the Articles can specify otherwise.
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Post by Topper Gas on Apr 2, 2019 19:52:15 GMT
I am only assuming as I said. If severncider can do it, so cant all of us. Just because there has always been an AGM (and there may still be one) doesnt necessarily mean there will have to be one And even if there is, what is going to happen? Nothing other than possibly a few awkward questions from the small smattering of people who can attend maybe you don't care what is happening at Rovers, but then you may not have invested millions like the supporters club and presidents club whose members will lose out if the Club goes bust? the AGM is the only real chance for the support groups to bring the owners to task - who at the moment may be bringing the Club to oblivion - and you don't care? how much have you put into the Club? - my guess - nothing? That's a bit rich coming from you when in the past I've raised concerns about the owners and basically been told to be patient as good news as around the corner, only a week or so ago you were still claiming it was, why has there been the suddenly change of direction virtually overnight? As far as the SC they lost their direction when they became just nodding dogs under JC's chairmanship when NH & co nearly did take the club to oblivion and have kept quiet ever since.
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Post by peterparker on Apr 2, 2019 20:01:36 GMT
I am only assuming as I said. If severncider can do it, so cant all of us. Just because there has always been an AGM (and there may still be one) doesnt necessarily mean there will have to be one And even if there is, what is going to happen? Nothing other than possibly a few awkward questions from the small smattering of people who can attend maybe you don't care what is happening at Rovers, but then you may not have invested millions like the supporters club and presidents club whose members will lose out if the Club goes bust? the AGM is the only real chance for the support groups to bring the owners to task - who at the moment may be bringing the Club to oblivion - and you don't care? how much have you put into the Club? - my guess - nothing? I never said I dont care. By God, I have done enough of it in the past Just pointing out an AGM at best would produce a few awkward questions and nothing that hasnt bee asked and 'answered' befors Whether there is an AGM or not, the accounts will be public, so we will all know how the clubs stands in that respect As for the SC they have a director on the board, so if they dont know anything, thats there bloody problem and if it was the case as I have said before perhaps they should vocalise it a bit more if they have a problem with that
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Post by Deleted on Apr 2, 2019 20:08:37 GMT
I am only assuming as I said. If severncider can do it, so cant all of us. Just because there has always been an AGM (and there may still be one) doesnt necessarily mean there will have to be one And even if there is, what is going to happen? Nothing other than possibly a few awkward questions from the small smattering of people who can attend maybe you don't care what is happening at Rovers, but then you may not have invested millions like the supporters club and presidents club whose members will lose out if the Club goes bust? the AGM is the only real chance for the support groups to bring the owners to task - who at the moment may be bringing the Club to oblivion - and you don't care? how much have you put into the Club? - my guess - nothing? Peter Parker doesn’t need to justify himself but I will. In the past he has gone over and above the average supporter and contributed both time and money for the good of Bristol Rovers. You sound very angry this evening, what has changed?
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Post by knowall on Apr 2, 2019 20:11:04 GMT
Rovers have always held an AGM so I think you are wrong, although it's anybody's guess if Severncider has just made up what he posted or has a source for his info. Ok, last go. A private company does not have to hold an AGM unless the Articles of Association require it to do so. I can only suggest that if you really want to know whether an AGM has to happen for this particular private limited company you go onto Companies House website and read the Articles rather than making assumptions. Just because an AGM may have taken place before doesn't on its own mean it has to happen again. Just as an aside, normally the minimum notice period for an AGM of a private company is 14 days, although the Articles can specify otherwise. suggest you get a copy of the Articles and then you might know what you are talking about.
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