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Post by Topper Gas on May 8, 2019 20:41:38 GMT
We are going nowhere except downwards unless real investment is made into the stadium, training ground and the squad. Wake up to the real world. These owners have no available money or won’t invest if they have. We will hover between league 1 and 2 unless there is a change in investment and mentality. The supporters are the only reason why some believe we are a bigger club than we are. No different than has been the case for decades at Rovers but we can still discuss our summer transfer activity, as there's f all we can do about the owners investing in the club. As far as hovering, we've been a Div 1 club for 3 seasons under the ALQ's so we've not hovered for a while. Basket case club Blackpool & Coventry plus Burton seem to have done OK this season with playing budgets probably lower than ours. I doubt even Luton had a massive budget this season.
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Post by Topper Gas on May 8, 2019 20:52:51 GMT
Not sure why people keep saying we’ve lost too many of the old team?They got us out of the conference and then league 2. It would be very unlikely that all those players would still be good enough 2 divisions higher. 1 or 2 maybe but not all of them. I’ll always be grateful but they can’t go on playing for us indefinitely. UTG Remind me a big part of our down fall last time we got relegated out of this league. I doubt Lines was a calming influence in the changing rooms and Sincs knees are apparently shot, are you suggesting we pay them £100K/£75K or whatever each next season even though they'll hardly play. I'd imagine Lines, Locks & Payne are 3 of the biggest wages earners with them gone it free up money to bring in 3 quality players, unless the ALQ's do cut the playing budget but we'll only know if that seems to be happening once the transfer window shuts
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Post by glengas on May 8, 2019 21:00:14 GMT
Anyone who has followed Rovers for any length of time will know what happens. Occasionally we build a decent team, get promotion and then sell all the goals out the team and go backwards. I can’t see how we are going to clear the debts built up as it’s going to take a damn site more than 50p on a sausage roll especially as the crowds are gradually falling. Worrying times.
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Post by alant1 on May 8, 2019 21:00:36 GMT
We are going nowhere except downwards unless real investment is made into the stadium, training ground and the squad. Wake up to the real world. These owners have no available money or won’t invest if they have. We will hover between league 1 and 2 unless there is a change in investment and mentality. The supporters are the only reason why some believe we are a bigger club than we are. No different than has been the case for decades at Rovers but we can still discuss our summer transfer activity, as there's f all we can do about the owners investing in the club. As far as hovering, we've been a Div 1 club for 3 seasons under the ALQ's so we've not hovered for a while. Basket case club Blackpool & Coventry plus Burton seem to have done OK this season with playing budgets probably lower than ours. I doubt even Luton had a massive budget this season. I agree about no difference for decades and we can all dream about our future and summer activity. We have been mainly a 3rd division team, hovered in the older day for brief periods between 2nd division but lately 3 to 4th divisions. Several years ago we couldn’t imagine 4th tier let alone non league. If you are content to live with these aspersions then that’s your decision. Unfortunately I find it hard to accept.
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Post by Gas Go Marching In on May 8, 2019 21:10:30 GMT
Remind me a big part of our down fall last time we got relegated out of this league. I doubt Lines was a calming influence in the changing rooms and Sincs knees are apparently shot, are you suggesting we pay them £100K/£75K or whatever each next season even though they'll hardly play. I'd imagine Lines, Locks & Payne are 3 of the biggest wages earners with them gone it free up money to bring in 3 quality players, unless the ALQ's do cut the playing budget but we'll only know if that seems to be happening once the transfer window shuts I wouldn't have kept Lines. I would have kept Sincs. "Knees are apparently shot" nothing like a bit of hearsay without anything to back it up, but he's over 30 so he must have had it I guess. Lockyer going too albeit not our choice. We know the budget is going to be cut, everything between the lines had led to believing that. Just got to hope we spend what we do have to the best of our ability. I'm not expecting any miracles though.
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Post by Topper Gas on May 8, 2019 21:11:13 GMT
No different than has been the case for decades at Rovers but we can still discuss our summer transfer activity, as there's f all we can do about the owners investing in the club. As far as hovering, we've been a Div 1 club for 3 seasons under the ALQ's so we've not hovered for a while. Basket case club Blackpool & Coventry plus Burton seem to have done OK this season with playing budgets probably lower than ours. I doubt even Luton had a massive budget this season. I agree about no difference for decades and we can all dream about our future and summer activity. We have been mainly a 3rd division team, hovered in the older day for brief periods between 2nd division but lately 3 to 4th divisions. Several years ago we couldn’t imagine 4th tier let alone non league. If you are content to live with these aspersions then that’s your decision. Unfortunately I find it hard to accept. Hard to accept? Unless you've a few million in the bank then you've two choices, just accept it or support a different club, the Gasheads responding to Wael on Instagram on Sunday saying he's doing a good job etc suggest fans are mostly happy to accept the status quo.
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Post by pirate on May 8, 2019 21:17:55 GMT
Hard to accept? Unless you've a few million in the bank then you've two choices, just accept it or support a different club, the Gasheads responding to Wael on Instagram on Sunday saying he's doing a good job etc suggest fans are mostly happy to accept the status quo. Doing a good job? WTF!?
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Post by WeAreTheGas on May 8, 2019 21:17:58 GMT
We are going nowhere except downwards unless real investment is made into the stadium, training ground and the squad. Wake up to the real world. These owners have no available money or won’t invest if they have. We will hover between league 1 and 2 unless there is a change in investment and mentality. The supporters are the only reason why some believe we are a bigger club than we are. Hard to disagree with this, tbh.
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Post by alant1 on May 8, 2019 21:42:17 GMT
Hard to accept? Unless you've a few million in the bank then you've two choices, just accept it or support a different club, the Gasheads responding to Wael on Instagram on Sunday saying he's doing a good job etc suggest fans are mostly happy to accept the status quo. Then that’s your choice and opinion which I respect. I will also support Rovers but that doesn’t mean I agree with your views. if you are really content with our current situation then that’s fine but when you see so many other clubs moving forward and leaving us behind it makes me very sad.
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Post by aghast on May 8, 2019 21:42:42 GMT
So a big clear out. With more likely to go if we can offload them (Payne, Bennett etc). Think letting Sincs go is a mistake. We've lost too many of the heart of our team took quick and this feels like the end of an era with only Ollie Clarke and JC left from our promotion from L2. It's going to be a massive summer and if DC was to be believed, our budget will be smaller. Especially with attendances decreasing year on year. I personally think GC is going to play an old fashioned 4-4-2 next season with a physical team with wingers. I think we hit our ceiling under DC and now gradually on the decline, I hope I'm wrong. I hope we're looking for another RB as JC and Partington won't be good enough to take us forward. We need more creativity in midfield and a poacher alongside JCH. You have to worry about our defence with Lockyer going and if Bonham doesn't come back. Craig is getting no younger. Just as I see it, sadly. We're currently downsizing.
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Post by singupgas on May 8, 2019 22:20:25 GMT
Down. Unfortunately.
Wael message on Instagram is just another thing posted to lead fans on. 3 and a bit years later and still we have no idea what is going on at the club.
Lockyer leaving is another sign that the club is in decline, your club captain leaving for free, no club rumoured to be interested - I havent seen one named, but TL willing to just walk out.
Wael needs to produce very soon imo, personally will lose interest if Rovers becomes a club struggling at the bottom of league 1 each year.
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Post by Icegas on May 8, 2019 22:27:53 GMT
We are going nowhere except downwards unless real investment is made into the stadium, training ground and the squad. Wake up to the real world. These owners have no available money or won’t invest if they have. We will hover between league 1 and 2 unless there is a change in investment and mentality. The supporters are the only reason why some believe we are a bigger club than we are. I agree. But thats the case with any club tho? Do Wigan,Burnley,Bournemouth,Swansea, Hull, Huddersfield, Cardiff,Reading, Brighton etc... have a larger fanbases then Us.. or indeed clubs like - Plymouth, Oxford, Swindon, Luton (now championship) , Bradford.... etc really? All were pretty much same sized clubs as us,and the above until new grounds were built and they had money pumped in and top level football played! Any core to a club is its fanbase,more so then its brand new ground or its recent history as that can be brought! Our fanbase size is currently top 10 - L1/ Lower Championship size given our ground. Given investment and a new arena us, just like City have premiership sized potential fanbases.
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Post by Topper Gas on May 8, 2019 22:32:58 GMT
Hard to accept? Unless you've a few million in the bank then you've two choices, just accept it or support a different club, the Gasheads responding to Wael on Instagram on Sunday saying he's doing a good job etc suggest fans are mostly happy to accept the status quo. Then that’s your choice and opinion which I respect. I will also support Rovers but that doesn’t mean I agree with your views. if you are really content with our current situation then that’s fine but when you see so many other clubs moving forward and leaving us behind it makes me very sad. Who said I'm content? I posted directly to Wael I wasn't content before realising I was very much in the minority. There's zero we can do about the situation, as I said you either accept it or move on, spending a whole summer whining on here is not going to change anything when most fans away from this forum given the impression they are content with the situation.
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Post by Gas_Quarters on May 8, 2019 22:35:32 GMT
So a big clear out. With more likely to go if we can offload them (Payne, Bennett etc). Think letting Sincs go is a mistake. We've lost too many of the heart of our team took quick and this feels like the end of an era with only Ollie Clarke and JC left from our promotion from L2. It's going to be a massive summer and if DC was to be believed, our budget will be smaller. Especially with attendances decreasing year on year. I personally think GC is going to play an old fashioned 4-4-2 next season with a physical team with wingers. I think we hit our ceiling under DC and now gradually on the decline, I hope I'm wrong. I hope we're looking for another RB as JC and Partington won't be good enough to take us forward. We need more creativity in midfield and a poacher alongside JCH. You have to worry about our defence with Lockyer going and if Bonham doesn't come back. Craig is getting no younger. I think that’s very harsh on JC, he was considered one of our best players by many this season and I’d say right back is one of the least of our worries at the minute. As for the rest of it, I don’t think we can have any idea where we are going until we see what sort of investment is made this summer and the calibre of players we bring in. You may be right and we may struggle next year, you may be completely wrong. But we’ve just finished a season where the second half of it has been extremely good and we’ve finished midtable. At least give the club chance to do some business first, I think any talk of a decline at the minute is purely just being pessimistic.
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Post by madgas on May 8, 2019 22:52:51 GMT
It’s tough.
I see a few things.
DC. God bless him, I think he’s the saviour almighty and I’d have him back in jiffy. Buttttttt- we’re where we are. (I mean that as a club). The constant talk of budgets was tricky. Not because he was bad at signing players but because he loved to sign players.
Since cogs cane in- he signed 2, loaned out Payne, Mathews and Bennett. He also stopped the crazy rotation. Far fewer players became relevant.
I think we’re in our roll the dice league. We’re not the big club in conference or league 1 any more. We’re a club in our current form geared towards top half league one.
We’re probably going for a smaller squad with less depth but hopefully more quality in the starting line up. It’s a balance DC didn’t quite get but I’m scared the next fella is too far the other way.
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Post by Fat Albert on May 9, 2019 5:52:25 GMT
Not sure why people keep saying we’ve lost too many of the old team?They got us out of the conference and then league 2. It would be very unlikely that all those players would still be good enough 2 divisions higher. 1 or 2 maybe but not all of them. I’ll always be grateful but they can’t go on playing for us indefinitely. UTG Remind me a big part of our down fall last time we got relegated out of this league. It’s who you get in not who you let go that matters. We’ll be i our 4th season since getting back to league 1 next year. Things move on. UTG
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Post by stapletongas on May 9, 2019 6:30:26 GMT
I don’t know where I’m going But I sure know where I’ve been
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Post by Gas Go Marching In on May 9, 2019 8:00:09 GMT
It’s tough. I see a few things. DC. God bless him, I think he’s the saviour almighty and I’d have him back in jiffy. Buttttttt- we’re where we are. (I mean that as a club). The constant talk of budgets was tricky. Not because he was bad at signing players but because he loved to sign players. Since cogs cane in- he signed 2, loaned out Payne, Mathews and Bennett. He also stopped the crazy rotation. Far fewer players became relevant. I think we’re in our roll the dice league. We’re not the big club in conference or league 1 any more. We’re a club in our current form geared towards top half league one. We’re probably going for a smaller squad with less depth but hopefully more quality in the starting line up. It’s a balance DC didn’t quite get but I’m scared the next fella is too far the other way. It'll definitely be a smaller squad with less depth, I'm not sure about quality as I expect wages for those replacements will be the same as we let go, just depends if we spend more wisely.
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Post by alant1 on May 9, 2019 8:10:44 GMT
Then that’s your choice and opinion which I respect. I will also support Rovers but that doesn’t mean I agree with your views. if you are really content with our current situation then that’s fine but when you see so many other clubs moving forward and leaving us behind it makes me very sad. Who said I'm content? I posted directly to Wael I wasn't content before realising I was very much in the minority. There's zero we can do about the situation, as I said you either accept it or move on, spending a whole summer whining on here is not going to change anything when most fans away from this forum given the impression they are content with the situation. Wael won’t stay if we keep losing money in my opinion. With the current setup that’s the only option. The family won’t allow it. Changes must be made. i don’t believe we are in a minority, I don’t know any Rovers fans happy with our current situation. if we all take the attitude that nothing can be done then we only offer a losing mentality and let the owners get away running the club poorly.
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Post by Antonio Fargas on May 9, 2019 8:12:13 GMT
if we all take the attitude that nothing can be done then we only offer a losing mentality and let the owners get away running the club poorly. So what are you doing about it?
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