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Post by Deleted on May 20, 2019 11:57:31 GMT
I think it would be very difficult for a woman to lead a men's team in this country for various reasons, not least as the vast majority would have little to no experience playing or coaching in the men's field. The idea that we should appoint a woman as manager to gain exposure in the media is a strange one though. Clearly there's a massive agenda to promote the women's game in this country though so whoever takes this first step would undoubtedly find themselves in the headlines. My heart tells me it shouldn't be hard for a woman to do the job, my head tells me that of course it would. Appointing the first woman EFL manager would gain us massive publicity, but right now I don't think we have the commercial or media teams, let alone the rest of the back of house infrastructure to make the most of it....so why take the risk? I'd argue it's publicity we don't need. We're a mid table team in the third tier of arguably the best and most desirable football country to work in. Opportunities to gain management experience at our level are few and far between and would attract some very high quality candidates, all of whom have had success playing/coaching/managing. Appointing a complete unknown strikes me as a massive and pointless risk. The same argument goes for Ben Garner who at least accumulated experience coaching in the men's game.
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Post by Kingswood Polak on May 20, 2019 11:59:05 GMT
It was being reported over the weekend that Chelsea's Ladies Manager Emma Hayes would like to be considered as the next manager of the Men's team if they sack their current manager How would you feel if Rovers offered her the job if and GC moves on ? I think it would certainly give us more exposure in the Media and maybe bring a fresh perspective to our game and i would welcome it Just a no from me, if she had experience and contacts then that could change. It’s not that it’s a woman, it’s the lack of experience Anyone with experience and contacts would have to be taken seriously.
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Post by Deleted on May 20, 2019 12:00:27 GMT
She has 2 WSL titles and 2 women’s fa cups in 5 years of managing Chelsea Women’s. It’s a yes from me A great achievement in the womens game no doubt. How would it translate to the men's game and ability to manage a lower league side? My gut feeling is that it would be vastly different. Regardless of gender, I'd expect any Bristol Rovers manager to have had experience playing, managing or coaching in the men's game. Perhaps the real question here is how females could get experience coaching in the men's game to enable them to have the opportunity to lead a side?
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Post by axegas on May 20, 2019 12:03:00 GMT
The job should always go to the best candidate regardless. The problem is there aren’t many suitable female candidates at the moment. What the FA needs to do in my opinion is encourage more women to take up coaching badges and apply for jobs in the lower leagues of English football so that more Female managers can receive the skills and experience necessary to manage higher up in the mens game. Like others have said, if they’re good enough for the job then gender really doesn’t matter.
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Post by chewbacca on May 20, 2019 12:03:07 GMT
It was being reported over the weekend that Chelsea's Ladies Manager Emma Hayes would like to be considered as the next manager of the Men's team if they sack their current manager How would you feel if Rovers offered her the job if and GC moves on ? I think it would certainly give us more exposure in the Media and maybe bring a fresh perspective to our game and i would welcome it Hayes is a fantastic coach and manager, I genuinely think with a Director of Football/Recruitment to help with signings she’d do a great job in men’s football. I think the first to go from a women’s coaching job to a professional men’s job will be Phil Neville which, is odd because he’s one of the worst currently coaching in the women’s game.
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Post by Henbury Gas on May 20, 2019 12:22:02 GMT
It was being reported over the weekend that Chelsea's Ladies Manager Emma Hayes would like to be considered as the next manager of the Men's team if they sack their current manager How would you feel if Rovers offered her the job if and GC moves on ? I think it would certainly give us more exposure in the Media and maybe bring a fresh perspective to our game and i would welcome it Just a no from me, if she had experience and contacts then that could change. It’s not that it’s a woman, it’s the lack of experience Anyone with experience and contacts would have to be taken seriously. Just go look at her record @ Chelsea ladies football team and see what she has achieved
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Post by Baxtinho on May 20, 2019 12:24:45 GMT
We're years away from the kind of tolerance this would require, sadly.
Look at the crap Alex Scott gets just from being on MOTD every now and then. She's an excellent pundit, miles better than some of the former (male) players they wheel out who offer virtually nothing of interest.
As long as she's still receiving "Get back to the kitchen" comments, there's no chance of change.
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Post by Deleted on May 20, 2019 13:02:57 GMT
We're years away from the kind of tolerance this would require, sadly. Look at the crap Alex Scott gets just from being on MOTD every now and then. She's an excellent pundit, miles better than some of the former (male) players they wheel out who offer virtually nothing of interest. As long as she's still receiving "Get back to the kitchen" comments, there's no chance of change. To be fair there's lots of excellent and insightful people out there. Fully agree that many are clueless and inept. See Merson, P. I personally think people would be far more reception (to be fair the majority are) of Alex Scott is she was part of wider attempt at diversity within football punditry, assuming experience playing the men's game is no longer an essential. It's pretty clear that the BBC have an agenda on the go to push women's football at every opportunity.
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Post by lastminutewinner on May 20, 2019 13:36:59 GMT
Absolutely, she's a terrific coach. My only concern is if she would be able to command the respect of the players - most would be fine I would imagine but some would have a problem with being told what to do by a woman.
Spot on, that was my first thought unfortunately...
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Post by socrates on May 20, 2019 13:42:14 GMT
Absolutely, she's a terrific coach. My only concern is if she would be able to command the respect of the players - most would be fine I would imagine but some would have a problem with being told what to do by a woman. To be fair most blokes are used to being told what to do by a women. 😉
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Post by lastminutewinner on May 20, 2019 13:46:58 GMT
Absolutely, she's a terrific coach. My only concern is if she would be able to command the respect of the players - most would be fine I would imagine but some would have a problem with being told what to do by a woman. To be fair most blokes are used to being told what to do by a women. 😉
Yeah but after a while it just turns into white noise and you don't take half of it in.
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Post by Henbury Gas on May 20, 2019 14:42:57 GMT
We're years away from the kind of tolerance this would require, sadly. Look at the crap Alex Scott gets just from being on MOTD every now and then. She's an excellent pundit, miles better than some of the former (male) players they wheel out who offer virtually nothing of interest. As long as she's still receiving "Get back to the kitchen" comments, there's no chance of change. To be fair there's lots of excellent and insightful people out there. Fully agree that many are clueless and inept. See Merson, P. I personally think people would be far more reception (to be fair the majority are) of Alex Scott is she was part of wider attempt at diversity within football punditry, assuming experience playing the men's game is no longer an essential. It's pretty clear that the BBC have an agenda on the go to push women's football at every opportunity.Are the BBC "Covering" the ladies world cup this summer ?
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Post by Deleted on May 20, 2019 14:49:37 GMT
To be fair there's lots of excellent and insightful people out there. Fully agree that many are clueless and inept. See Merson, P. I personally think people would be far more reception (to be fair the majority are) of Alex Scott is she was part of wider attempt at diversity within football punditry, assuming experience playing the men's game is no longer an essential. It's pretty clear that the BBC have an agenda on the go to push women's football at every opportunity.Are the BBC "Covering" the ladies world cup this summer ? Indeed they are, more than ever before which is great for the womens game. Normally one look at the BBC's recently revamped football homepage speaks volumes though. Typically a story or two on women's football in the main headline section with one click into the women's football section. However League One and League Two news sections aren't even present and can only be accessed through a further link. This is despite the fact that interest in League One and League Two football is significantly higher.
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Post by pirate on May 20, 2019 15:36:34 GMT
To be fair there's lots of excellent and insightful people out there. Fully agree that many are clueless and inept. See Merson, P. I personally think people would be far more reception (to be fair the majority are) of Alex Scott is she was part of wider attempt at diversity within football punditry, assuming experience playing the men's game is no longer an essential. It's pretty clear that the BBC have an agenda on the go to push women's football at every oppCarli Lloydortunity.Are the BBC "Covering" the ladies world cup this summer ? Yes, and I can't wait to watch the England team and also the likes of Dzsenifer Marozsan, Alexandra Popp, Lieke Martens, Carli Lloyd, Alex Morgan, Crystal Dunn, Saki Kumagai and the legendary Marta. Just a shame Denmark haven't qualified because Pernille Harder is top quality and also missing is one of the best players in the world, Ada Hegerberg, who has decided not to represent Norway anymore.
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Post by Gas Go Marching In on May 20, 2019 15:53:10 GMT
Are the BBC "Covering" the ladies world cup this summer ? Yes, and I can't wait to watch the England team and also the likes of Dzsenifer Marozsan, Alexandra Popp, Lieke Martens, Carli Lloyd, Alex Morgan, Crystal Dunn, Saki Kumagai and the legendary Marta. Just a shame Denmark haven't qualified because Pernille Harder is top quality and also missing is one of the best players in the world, Ada Hegerberg, who has decided not to represent Norway anymore. At what level would these women play at in the men's game?
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Post by Antonio Fargas on May 20, 2019 15:54:59 GMT
The job should always go to the best candidate regardless. Unless s/he's a ted.
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Post by Antonio Fargas on May 20, 2019 15:55:36 GMT
Yes, and I can't wait to watch the England team and also the likes of Dzsenifer Marozsan, Alexandra Popp, Lieke Martens, Carli Lloyd, Alex Morgan, Crystal Dunn, Saki Kumagai and the legendary Marta. Just a shame Denmark haven't qualified because Pernille Harder is top quality and also missing is one of the best players in the world, Ada Hegerberg, who has decided not to represent Norway anymore. At what level would these women play at in the men's game? Higher than you.
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Post by Gas Go Marching In on May 20, 2019 16:04:10 GMT
At what level would these women play at in the men's game? Higher than you. That could be any level still..
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Post by nsgas on May 20, 2019 16:06:31 GMT
Yes, and I can't wait to watch the England team and also the likes of Dzsenifer Marozsan, Alexandra Popp, Lieke Martens, Carli Lloyd, Alex Morgan, Crystal Dunn, Saki Kumagai and the legendary Marta. Just a shame Denmark haven't qualified because Pernille Harder is top quality and also missing is one of the best players in the world, Ada Hegerberg, who has decided not to represent Norway anymore. At what level would these women play at in the men's game? This might give you some idea: www.cbssports.com/soccer/news/a-dallas-fc-under-15-boys-squad-beat-the-u-s-womens-national-team-in-a-scrimmage/
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Post by Gas Go Marching In on May 20, 2019 16:12:18 GMT
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