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Post by Deleted on May 22, 2019 12:42:02 GMT
When an apprentice in a job in any walk of life usually works with someone who is qualified in the job he wants to become qualified in. The apprentice watches and learns and you hope in most cases from the best in his field. So I want our future players learning and watching just how say Tony Craig talks to his defence. I want a potential midfielder to see how Liam Sercombe gives the ball easy when under pressure, this is different to training.
Great move by the club, I’ve said it for many years as well that youth players should be ball boys.
But let’s have a pop at the club again.
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Post by Deleted on May 22, 2019 13:00:12 GMT
When an apprentice in a job in any walk of life usually works with someone who is qualified in the job he wants to become qualified in. The apprentice watches and learns and you hope in most cases from the best in his field. So I want our future players learning and watching just how say Tony Craig talks to his defence. I want a potential midfielder to see how Liam Sercombe gives the ball easy when under pressure, this is different to training.Great move by the club, I’ve said it for many years as well that youth players should be ball boys. But let’s have a pop at the club again. The academy players get free tickets to games, so they are able to do observe the professionals at work already. Might be an idea to have their coach sitting with them, so that he could speak with them during the match, and use it as a teaching tool.
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Post by Deleted on May 22, 2019 13:13:26 GMT
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Post by utg12 on May 22, 2019 13:34:51 GMT
Maybe it’s because Cogs wants the academy players beside the pitch in front of decent crowds so that they get the experience which should help them in the long term ? Or maybe it’s to give some fans an opportunity to bash the club ? Very very sad if you truly believe this. I follow your posts and usually they are fair. This isn't. And it's after kids families have sorted out their seats / Tickets for the season, and now told this just before a school holiday and the ST deadline.
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Post by utg12 on May 22, 2019 13:39:57 GMT
Yeah are you the anti? Anti rank and file supporters? Anti family? Anti correct timing? Anti respect? They could have announced this ages ago and at least let hard working families plan for this season. Instead it's just before the ST deadline, after families have made their arrangements, and now has to be budgeted for. I guess you're alright jack? Do you actually know anyone who is effected by this? I do.
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Post by utg12 on May 22, 2019 13:41:41 GMT
You seem to have beef with our commercial director Henbury. Whats he done wrong? Don't have a beef with our Tom. just wish he would do what he is paid to do Paid a LOT and takes commission on sponsorship deals.
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Post by Deleted on May 22, 2019 15:21:42 GMT
Maybe I've got super hearing, as I'm able to have a conversation with the people in the vicinity of my seat regarding what's happening on the pitch. What are they going to get distracted by? If they've got the right attitude, they'll be watching what's happening on the pitch, whether they are perched on a tiny stool or sitting in the South Stand (which is quite close to the pitch). There are example of both types of ball boy selection in the Premiership, When Mourinho was at Manchester United he switched from using ordinary ball boys to academy players. Manchester City and Spurs recruit from the fan base, and Arsenal select from the Junior Gunners - these schemes are open to both boys and girls. I'm certainly not "anti Bristol Rovers" and applaud a lot of the changes which have been made in the last couple of years. It just seems that this is moving us another step away from the bond between supporters and the club, probably with no real merit. If I'm still around in 5 years time, and we have a first team with half a dozen academy players in it, I will be delighted to come back on here and admit that I was wrong.
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Post by Deleted on May 22, 2019 15:57:53 GMT
When an apprentice in a job in any walk of life usually works with someone who is qualified in the job he wants to become qualified in. The apprentice watches and learns and you hope in most cases from the best in his field. So I want our future players learning and watching just how say Tony Craig talks to his defence. I want a potential midfielder to see how Liam Sercombe gives the ball easy when under pressure, this is different to training. Great move by the club, I’ve said it for many years as well that youth players should be ball boys. But let’s have a pop at the club again. Just had a discussion with my son about this, he was a Young Pirates ball boy and a goalkeeper for Rovers in the pre-academy set up. He 100% agreed with you about the merits of getting the academy players immersed in the match day atmosphere, up close to the players etc. I'm obviously out of touch with modern thinking!
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Post by pirate49 on May 22, 2019 16:04:36 GMT
You get a far better appreciation of movement and tactics watching from the stand. I usually stand on the terraces and when I get the opportunity to sit in a stand I'm struck by how much better it is to see off the ball movement, precision of passes etc.
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Post by Big Jock on May 22, 2019 17:30:23 GMT
When an apprentice in a job in any walk of life usually works with someone who is qualified in the job he wants to become qualified in. The apprentice watches and learns and you hope in most cases from the best in his field. So I want our future players learning and watching just how say Tony Craig talks to his defence. I want a potential midfielder to see how Liam Sercombe gives the ball easy when under pressure, this is different to training. Great move by the club, I’ve said it for many years as well that youth players should be ball boys. But let’s have a pop at the club again. Its a good point, many clubs now put their young players as ball boys so they can get used to th atmosphere, BOTH GOOD AN BAD! So i agree with th move like you.
But Roady pal, i dinnae think Tillys Thighs was 'havin a pop at th club' i cannae think of a less likely person ta do that. I think she was just sad that yer normal lad in th street will miss out which is gutting for th kids (and their parents)
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Post by Deleted on May 22, 2019 17:56:54 GMT
Big Jock did you ever see Josh Low play for us? He had the worst stage fright I have even seen in a young kid play for us. It was so bad he had to leave but he went on to have a very good career as a player and played above the Rovers.
Now if a 14 year old boy hears 8,000 fans grown and moan at Tony Craig’s distribution he is going to know what it is like if he makes it. Like Phil Foden as ball boy at Man City playing in front of 50,000, it prepared him for the big time which he is now in. I would much rather a future player of ours be better prepared to play for us who has cost us nothing instead of some upset kids who can’t be ball boy.
We are a struggling business in an expensive player market, we can’t be all hippy and sentimental, these lads at 18 making their debut have the right to be best prepared as we can make them.
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Post by Big Jock on May 22, 2019 18:02:13 GMT
Big Jock did you ever see Josh Low play for us? He had the worst stage fright I have even seen in a young kid play for us. It was so bad he had to leave but he went on to have a very good career as a player and played above the Rovers. Now if a 14 year old boy hears 8,000 fans grown and moan at Tony Craig’s distribution he is going to know what it is like if he makes it. Like Phil Foden as ball boy at Man City playing in front of 50,000, it prepared him for the big time which he is now in. I would much rather a future player of ours be better prepared to play for us who has cost us nothing instead of some upset kids who can’t be ball boy. We are a struggling business in an expensive player market, we can’t be all hippy and sentimental, these lads at 18 making their debut have the right to be best prepared as we can make them. Roady pal, read my comments again, i was agreeing with yous.
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Post by Deleted on May 22, 2019 18:14:34 GMT
I know Jocky, I just find it hard to believe the club is being bashed for preparing a 16 or 18 year old for the first team in our best way especially with all these pressures and mental illness’s today etc
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Post by Topper Gas on May 22, 2019 18:38:24 GMT
I know Jocky, I just find it hard to believe the club is being bashed for preparing a 16 or 18 year old for the first team in our best way especially with all these pressures and mental illness’s today etc Any evidence this was a GC rather than TG decision?
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Post by Deleted on May 22, 2019 19:24:00 GMT
Could have been a Mansell decision?
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Post by Topper Gas on May 22, 2019 19:52:29 GMT
Could have been a Mansell decision? You'd hope such a big decision was made at an higher level than just a coach
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Post by Deleted on May 22, 2019 20:02:25 GMT
Who knows, not really bothered, either was the right decision.
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Post by BishopstonBRFC on May 22, 2019 20:53:22 GMT
I know Jocky, I just find it hard to believe the club is being bashed for preparing a 16 or 18 year old for the first team in our best way especially with all these pressures and mental illness’s today etc Any evidence this was a GC rather than TG decision? I hope the commercial manager isn't telling GC what to do with his academy players. For all we know it could be GC who's asked for this to try and bring some players through.
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Post by Topper Gas on May 22, 2019 21:34:57 GMT
Any evidence this was a GC rather than TG decision? I hope the commercial manager isn't telling GC what to do with his academy players. For all we know it could be GC who's asked for this to try and bring some players through. The suggestion on this thread was that it was either cost cutting (which I doubt would be GC's decision) or to assist the Academy (which would be GC's decision).
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Post by daniel300380 on May 22, 2019 22:52:01 GMT
I hope the commercial manager isn't telling GC what to do with his academy players. For all we know it could be GC who's asked for this to try and bring some players through. The suggestion on this thread was that it was either cost cutting (which I doubt would be GC's decision) or to assist the Academy (which would be GC's decision). Cost cutting how?? They were volunteers anyway??
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