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Post by hartcliffegas on May 24, 2019 6:47:26 GMT
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Post by Squiffy on May 24, 2019 7:03:20 GMT
From a competition point of view it was better when all games were on a Saturday at the weekend and you could watch a bit of the lower leagues on Match of the Day as well as the top flight. Unbridled greed has changed all that irreversibly. ☹️
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Post by eastgas on May 24, 2019 7:15:24 GMT
Great read which further highlights the problems most lower league clubs face
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Post by Deleted on May 24, 2019 7:25:00 GMT
From a competition point of view it was better when all games were on a Saturday at the weekend and you could watch a bit of the lower leagues on Match of the Day as well as the top flight. Unbridled greed has changed all that irreversibly. ☹️ When I was growing up there was hardly any coverage of lower league goals. Had to sit through local news and hope to see a few clips. Now you get to see every single EFL goal on free to air TV at prime time on a Saturday evening.
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Post by Deleted on May 24, 2019 7:45:12 GMT
A great article which makes sad reading.
This financial vulnerability of lower league clubs will lead to the introduction of B/U23 teams in the future I suspect. Clubs won't be able to turn down the income offered.
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Post by peterparker on May 24, 2019 8:34:21 GMT
But its all TGs fault for charging 4 quid for a sausage roll
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Post by Jomo on May 24, 2019 8:58:39 GMT
Interesting but depressing read.
I hate the PL. Absolute greedy mother flipping fat cat tossers.
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Post by Jomo on May 24, 2019 9:18:30 GMT
Just wondering what we could do as a club to encourage more young people to attend? Would quid a kid on a more regular basis help? I'm speaking as someone who knows very little about what schemes are already run for this purpose.
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Post by Topper Gas on May 24, 2019 9:38:45 GMT
But its all TGs fault for charging 4 quid for a sausage roll I guess you missed the bit about clubs trying to become community clubs and reducing their prices etc "One is affordable live football. Two is making the match experience great, creating the environment, that’s what we’re trying to do with the supporters groups. We’ve done simple things, we’ve brought a drum in! The atmosphere is fantastic. This has been generated. We’ve got an SWA2 campaign, we’ve got pictures of kids on the billboard outside the ground. It’s really taken off. “The other way we compete, against the big clubs, is access. We, as a local club, have opened up the boardroom, we use it as a network hub. We give them access to the manager and players. You can’t get access to Premier League clubs because it’s corporatised and their size mitigates against that.
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Post by peterparker on May 24, 2019 9:52:03 GMT
But its all TGs fault for charging 4 quid for a sausage roll I guess you missed the bit about clubs trying to become community clubs and reducing their prices etc "One is affordable live football. Two is making the match experience great, creating the environment, that’s what we’re trying to do with the supporters groups. We’ve done simple things, we’ve brought a drum in! The atmosphere is fantastic. This has been generated. We’ve got an SWA2 campaign, we’ve got pictures of kids on the billboard outside the ground. It’s really taken off. “The other way we compete, against the big clubs, is access. We, as a local club, have opened up the boardroom, we use it as a network hub. We give them access to the manager and players. You can’t get access to Premier League clubs because it’s corporatised and their size mitigates against that. I was being a tad facetious. I am all for affordability, community club etc, but how does that chime with a fanbase/fanbases that want owners to spend some Dam money and get watered off yo yoing between league one and two. Do those fans see a community club they can continue to support or a club they think is unambitious
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Post by Deleted on May 24, 2019 9:54:13 GMT
Just wondering what we could do as a club to encourage more young people to attend? Would quid a kid on a more regular basis help? I'm speaking as someone who knows very little about what schemes are already run for this purpose. Build a proper stadium?
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Post by thegasman on May 24, 2019 11:05:12 GMT
In this age, the ability to access that little thing that is the internet and social media while at a game should be at the forefront of the matchday experience. if enough supporters post interesting stuff (pictures/comment/excitement) about being at a match, we start to interest the younger generations that get to read all things webby. Currently can't access anything on a matchday. Too many people trying to do the same thing, which I feel only backs up my thoughts. It must surely be possible to provide enough capacity to get people online. After all if it can happen for 80 odd thousand at Wembley. We need to engage more with the "internet generation" if we want to entice them to attend. Also am astounded that we don't seem to make much of an effort to engage students from the 2 universities in the city, around 60000 current students, many of whom end up staying locally once graduated. Students seem to have a fair disposable income these days, and if you can capture them and they stay around the locality, the fan base can surely only go one way? Of course, this all depends on being served up exciting football, with a top notch matchday experience.
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Post by miamigas on May 24, 2019 14:33:31 GMT
Interesting but depressing read. I hate the PL. Absolute greedy mother flipping fat cat tossers. Love to be in it though, wouldn’t you? UTG!
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Post by lmgas on May 24, 2019 15:10:07 GMT
In this age, the ability to access that little thing that is the internet and social media while at a game should be at the forefront of the matchday experience. if enough supporters post interesting stuff (pictures/comment/excitement) about being at a match, we start to interest the younger generations that get to read all things webby. Currently can't access anything on a matchday. Too many people trying to do the same thing, which I feel only backs up my thoughts. It must surely be possible to provide enough capacity to get people online. After all if it can happen for 80 odd thousand at Wembley. We need to engage more with the "internet generation" if we want to entice them to attend. Also am astounded that we don't seem to make much of an effort to engage students from the 2 universities in the city, around 60000 current students, many of whom end up staying locally once graduated. Students seem to have a fair disposable income these days, and if you can capture them and they stay around the locality, the fan base can surely only go one way? Of course, this all depends on being served up exciting football, with a top notch matchday experience. I'm only a Gashead because my Dad was a student in Bristol, him and his mates decided to go to a game one Saturday, Rovers were home that week (thankfully), the rest is history! Three generations of Gasheads now. None of us live in the area anymore but we're still Gas.
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Post by matealotblue on May 24, 2019 15:25:19 GMT
Interesting but depressing read. I hate the PL. Absolute greedy mother flipping fat cat tossers. Love to be in it though, wouldn’t you? UTG! Well, that for me, is a real Head v Heart job My head says the exposure/money/facilities etc etc are worth it My heart says ugh! All the faff with fixture changes, weird ko times etc etc are, to me, anti-fan and pro-corporate bollocks In some ways, despite the antiquated/delapidated facilities we have it still feels like the club I supported back in the 60's (clearly my misty eyed myopic nostalgic brain cell is having issues!) But I think many will know what I mean. Of course things need to improve with the stadium/facilities/team but I would like to do it in a way that does not introduce the plastic feel of the PL. Which my head says can not happen, I understand that. Much preferred the old L1 days where you were (generally) still the club you were before you got promoted - if that makes sense? Just a silly old duffer really, but a romantic/nostalgic one though. Cant have it both ways and the world has changed - sadly that means football has to ( is) changing. Think it is just leaving me behind.......
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Post by wertongas on May 24, 2019 16:01:38 GMT
In this age, the ability to access that little thing that is the internet and social media while at a game should be at the forefront of the matchday experience. if enough supporters post interesting stuff (pictures/comment/excitement) about being at a match, we start to interest the younger generations that get to read all things webby. Currently can't access anything on a matchday. Too many people trying to do the same thing, which I feel only backs up my thoughts. It must surely be possible to provide enough capacity to get people online. After all if it can happen for 80 odd thousand at Wembley. We need to engage more with the "internet generation" if we want to entice them to attend. Also am astounded that we don't seem to make much of an effort to engage students from the 2 universities in the city, around 60000 current students, many of whom end up staying locally once graduated. Students seem to have a fair disposable income these days, and if you can capture them and they stay around the locality, the fan base can surely only go one way? Of course, this all depends on being served up exciting football, with a top notch matchday experience. I'm only a Gashead because my Dad was a student in Bristol, him and his mates decided to go to a game one Saturday, Rovers were home that week (thankfully), the rest is history! Three generations of Gasheads now. None of us live in the area anymore but we're still Gas. I know some lads from my area in Wiltshire went to UWE started watching Rovers and are now gasheads. Sky pay over a 100 million on average per year to each Premier league club, recently I stopped my sky sports subscription don't get value for money and fed up with all the money going to Prem league, perhaps other lower league supporters should do the same. Also complained to BBC yesterday regarding lack of lower league football on BBC , suggested they stopped waisting money on crass rubbish like Eurovision and spent it televising lower league football.
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Post by Topper Gas on May 24, 2019 17:21:43 GMT
I'm only a Gashead because my Dad was a student in Bristol, him and his mates decided to go to a game one Saturday, Rovers were home that week (thankfully), the rest is history! Three generations of Gasheads now. None of us live in the area anymore but we're still Gas. I know some lads from my area in Wiltshire went to UWE started watching Rovers and are now gasheads. Sky pay over a 100 million on average per year to each Premier league club, recently I stopped my sky sports subscription don't get value for money and fed up with all the money going to Prem league, perhaps other lower league supporters should do the same. Also complained to BBC yesterday regarding lack of lower league football on BBC , suggested they stopped waisting money on crass rubbish like Eurovision and spent it televising lower league football. How can the BBC show lower league football when Sky have the sole TV rights for EFL live games? Sky at £30 a month is good value when there's so much live sport on, it's been boring this week with no live games!
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Post by Jomo on May 24, 2019 18:13:52 GMT
Interesting but depressing read. I hate the PL. Absolute greedy mother flipping fat cat tossers. Love to be in it though, wouldn’t you? UTG! Actually no. But to be honest it begs the question what do we actually want? We'll meet our ceiling some day even if it's not now, which I think it is. I know fans of Reading etc who have tasted the Prem and found themselves back where they came, and they feel rather depressed about it all. There's no such thing as utopia as a lower league fan.
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