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Post by Kingswood Polak on Jun 15, 2019 12:15:01 GMT
I’m interested in it. It lasts 6 weeks. It’s 2 weeks in to the tournament and summer starts in a week. You get to the final you play 11 games. How many games to get to the football World Cup (yes I said that on a football forum) final? 7 maybe. P.s Boycott this competition. Shame on any of you who continue support this shambles of a farce. Start supporting our clubs future not the premier league clubs future. Some people may say shame on anyone who supports a sport that is almost solely funded by companies that purpetuate the disparity in the financial well boring of clubs. As Gil said Superb choice of music
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Post by legas on Jun 15, 2019 12:21:36 GMT
Some people may say shame on anyone who supports a sport that is almost solely funded by companies that purpetuate the disparity in the financial well boring of clubs. As Gil said Superb choice of music Great artist, musician and poet.
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Post by matealotblue on Jun 15, 2019 12:28:51 GMT
My position, for what it's worth, is that I didn't go the first year of the Checkatrade as it seemed a bit micky mouse. On reflection that seemed to only hurt my club through lack of revenue. So I go now and in all honesty enjoyed the games and the laid back atmosphere. It seemed to be a nice contrast to the league games which were pretty bleak, played in a fairly unpleasant atmosphere. It was clear to me that the club was up a particular creek without a paddle financially and couldn't miss an opertunity to raise some extra cash. As for the U21 teams entering the competition being the thin end of the wedge, that wedge sailed years ago. The formation of the Premier league and the disparity in income distribution saw to that. The English football World no longer affords clubs the chance to move through the leagues without massive injections of cash relative to their league status. If we were ever to get into the championship our turnover would probably have to quadruple to have a chance of establishing ourselves there. So without outside gifted investment that just isn't happening. So I'll carry on supporting my club in whatever competition unless it's, genuinely, morally wrong as it will help to ensure the short term stability of the club. If others don't want to it really doesn't bother me as the games under the so called boycott were quite enjoyable. So if fans don't like the EFL Trophy that's fine but don't imagine it's got anything to do with the demise of the lower leagues, Sky and the Premier league saw to that years ago. Probably about right, but for me this competition is just about driving the final nail in the coffin. Can’t support the current format in any way at all. PL wanted to break away and do their own thing. Bit like your neighbours building a huge new garden/extension at great expense to make their home look beautiful and wanting to grow their veg and have all the mess in your garden.....😀
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Post by Somersetgas on Jun 15, 2019 12:28:59 GMT
That’s what the authorities want. Football as a competitive game is dying.
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Post by gasheadbatesy on Jun 15, 2019 12:43:14 GMT
My position, for what it's worth, is that I didn't go the first year of the Checkatrade as it seemed a bit micky mouse. On reflection that seemed to only hurt my club through lack of revenue. So I go now and in all honesty enjoyed the games and the laid back atmosphere. It seemed to be a nice contrast to the league games which were pretty bleak, played in a fairly unpleasant atmosphere. It was clear to me that the club was up a particular creek without a paddle financially and couldn't miss an opertunity to raise some extra cash. As for the U21 teams entering the competition being the thin end of the wedge, that wedge sailed years ago. The formation of the Premier league and the disparity in income distribution saw to that. The English football World no longer affords clubs the chance to move through the leagues without massive injections of cash relative to their league status. If we were ever to get into the championship our turnover would probably have to quadruple to have a chance of establishing ourselves there. So without outside gifted investment that just isn't happening. So I'll carry on supporting my club in whatever competition unless it's, genuinely, morally wrong as it will help to ensure the short term stability of the club. If others don't want to it really doesn't bother me as the games under the so called boycott were quite enjoyable. So if fans don't like the EFL Trophy that's fine but don't imagine it's got anything to do with the demise of the lower leagues, Sky and the Premier league saw to that years ago. Your right about sky and the premier league, however that has passed this is now. We didn’t want them in our competition but they are here now. Next step is to introduce them to the league as was proposed a few years ago. Since then they have snuck in through the back door with there wads of cash and bribed there way in. It needs to end now before it goes to the next step.
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Post by Kingswood Polak on Jun 15, 2019 12:43:27 GMT
Great artist, musician and poet. Was very lucky to see him and I shall forever be grateful to an ex, going back to the 80’s, who introduced me to him & his troubadour type of style. I was stunned to find out his father played for Celtic.
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Post by darkbluegas on Jun 15, 2019 13:27:49 GMT
My position, for what it's worth, is that I didn't go the first year of the Checkatrade as it seemed a bit micky mouse. On reflection that seemed to only hurt my club through lack of revenue. So I go now and in all honesty enjoyed the games and the laid back atmosphere. It seemed to be a nice contrast to the league games which were pretty bleak, played in a fairly unpleasant atmosphere. It was clear to me that the club was up a particular creek without a paddle financially and couldn't miss an opertunity to raise some extra cash. As for the U21 teams entering the competition being the thin end of the wedge, that wedge sailed years ago. The formation of the Premier league and the disparity in income distribution saw to that. The English football World no longer affords clubs the chance to move through the leagues without massive injections of cash relative to their league status. If we were ever to get into the championship our turnover would probably have to quadruple to have a chance of establishing ourselves there. So without outside gifted investment that just isn't happening. So I'll carry on supporting my club in whatever competition unless it's, genuinely, morally wrong as it will help to ensure the short term stability of the club. If others don't want to it really doesn't bother me as the games under the so called boycott were quite enjoyable. So if fans don't like the EFL Trophy that's fine but don't imagine it's got anything to do with the demise of the lower leagues, Sky and the Premier league saw to that years ago. Probably about right, but for me this competition is just about driving the final nail in the coffin. Can’t support the current format in any way at all. PL wanted to break away and do their own thing. Bit like your neighbours building a huge new garden/extension at great expense to make their home look beautiful and wanting to grow their veg and have all the mess in your garden.....😀 The problem with your analogy is, that in our case we're not really prepared to moan about their big garden because they bung us a few bits of veg to keep us quiet which we can't or won't refuse.
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Post by Antonio Fargas on Jun 15, 2019 13:36:17 GMT
Probably about right, but for me this competition is just about driving the final nail in the coffin. Can’t support the current format in any way at all. PL wanted to break away and do their own thing. Bit like your neighbours building a huge new garden/extension at great expense to make their home look beautiful and wanting to grow their veg and have all the mess in your garden.....😀 The problem with your analogy is, that in our case we're not really prepared to moan about their big garden because they bung us a few bits of veg to keep us quiet which we can't or won't refuse. And yet you keep starting threads telling us how exciting a bit of mouldy carrot is.
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Post by Jomo on Jun 15, 2019 13:42:30 GMT
My position, for what it's worth, is that I didn't go the first year of the Checkatrade as it seemed a bit micky mouse. On reflection that seemed to only hurt my club through lack of revenue. So I go now and in all honesty enjoyed the games and the laid back atmosphere. It seemed to be a nice contrast to the league games which were pretty bleak, played in a fairly unpleasant atmosphere. It was clear to me that the club was up a particular creek without a paddle financially and couldn't miss an opertunity to raise some extra cash. As for the U21 teams entering the competition being the thin end of the wedge, that wedge sailed years ago. The formation of the Premier league and the disparity in income distribution saw to that. The English football World no longer affords clubs the chance to move through the leagues without massive injections of cash relative to their league status. If we were ever to get into the championship our turnover would probably have to quadruple to have a chance of establishing ourselves there. So without outside gifted investment that just isn't happening. So I'll carry on supporting my club in whatever competition unless it's, genuinely, morally wrong as it will help to ensure the short term stability of the club. If others don't want to it really doesn't bother me as the games under the so called boycott were quite enjoyable. So if fans don't like the EFL Trophy that's fine but don't imagine it's got anything to do with the demise of the lower leagues, Sky and the Premier league saw to that years ago. Your right about sky and the premier league, however that has passed this is now. We didn’t want them in our competition but they are here now. Next step is to introduce them to the league as was proposed a few years ago. Since then they have snuck in through the back door with there wads of cash and bribed there way in. It needs to end now before it goes to the next step. Exactly. I'd rather make a stand against it even at my clubs expense in the short term, to have an aim at doing what's best for them in the long term. What darkbluegas is basically saying is that it's not worth fighting, so he's not going to. Very apathetic and defeatist attitude. Surely in the face of continually being spat on, you have to say enough is enough and support the bigger picture rather than meekly submitting to the tide of Premier League butchery of the lower leagues, and letting it get progressively worse and worse.
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Post by warehamgas on Jun 15, 2019 13:59:26 GMT
The biggest away following, apart from Sunderland, in the EFL Trophy was for West Ham U21 game last year and they brought quite a few. Football in this country long ago sold out to the Sky Dollar. Sadly no one really gives a toss about the lower league clubs now apart from the few that turn out. The EFL Trophy is merely a symptom of the problem that Sky and the Premier League have created. It's not just football. It's hard to believe that this country is currently hosting the World Cup in one of our National Sports and you'd hardly notice it unless you follow Cricket and subscribe to Sky Sports. The cricket World Cup is a farce in itself, as who's really interested in a tournament lasting, it seems, the whole of the summer. No it’s not a farce and it lasts 6 weeks and not half the Summer to fairly good crowds considering the weather. Honestly Topper you don’t half talk some rubbish sometimes. 😉 And there’s a lot of interest, world wide, not just this country. I get it that you might not like it but millions of others do. And it has been organised superbly this time. All the teams in one league, fairly competitive matches. And taking it to non test playing towns esp in the West Country like Taunton and Bristol. It may be many things but it is a real competition, not a farce and to even compare it anywhere near to the Checkatrade is pretty stupid. UTG!
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Post by warehamgas on Jun 15, 2019 14:15:51 GMT
My position, for what it's worth, is that I didn't go the first year of the Checkatrade as it seemed a bit micky mouse. On reflection that seemed to only hurt my club through lack of revenue. So I go now and in all honesty enjoyed the games and the laid back atmosphere. It seemed to be a nice contrast to the league games which were pretty bleak, played in a fairly unpleasant atmosphere. It was clear to me that the club was up a particular creek without a paddle financially and couldn't miss an opertunity to raise some extra cash. As for the U21 teams entering the competition being the thin end of the wedge, that wedge sailed years ago. The formation of the Premier league and the disparity in income distribution saw to that. The English football World no longer affords clubs the chance to move through the leagues without massive injections of cash relative to their league status. If we were ever to get into the championship our turnover would probably have to quadruple to have a chance of establishing ourselves there. So without outside gifted investment that just isn't happening. So I'll carry on supporting my club in whatever competition unless it's, genuinely, morally wrong as it will help to ensure the short term stability of the club. If others don't want to it really doesn't bother me as the games under the so called boycott were quite enjoyable. So if fans don't like the EFL Trophy that's fine but don't imagine it's got anything to do with the demise of the lower leagues, Sky and the Premier league saw to that years ago. Well done. Amongst all the divisiveness that this competition has engendered that is a balanced and articulate response and I wouldn’t argue with it. With all the entrenched positions taken after two seasons I don’t expect much to change and it is what it is. Until the owners vote at the EFL AGM each summer it will be left to the fans to make their views regarding the competition known. Because of all the financial advantages the PL clubs have all the aces and can offer “incentives” or anything and the financial positions of most lower league clubs will ask not “what” but “how much will you pay us” in relation to this competition. UTG!
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Post by Dirt Dogg on Jun 15, 2019 14:25:45 GMT
I’m interested in it. It lasts 6 weeks. It’s 2 weeks in to the tournament and summer starts in a week. You get to the final you play 11 games. How many games to get to the football World Cup (yes I said that on a football forum) final? 7 maybe. P.s Boycott this competition. Shame on any of you who continue support this shambles of a farce. Start supporting our clubs future not the premier league clubs future. Some people may say shame on anyone who supports a sport that is almost solely funded by companies that purpetuate the disparity in the financial well boring of clubs. As Gil said You’ve got some bottle posting this mate
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Post by burnthewitch on Jun 15, 2019 15:02:03 GMT
More likely adds to the excrement...... I don't think so... Didn't you read Debbie Jevons comments in the article. Gobshite
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Post by c4h10 on Jun 15, 2019 15:11:03 GMT
My position, for what it's worth, is that I didn't go the first year of the Checkatrade as it seemed a bit micky mouse. On reflection that seemed to only hurt my club through lack of revenue. So I go now and in all honesty enjoyed the games and the laid back atmosphere. It seemed to be a nice contrast to the league games which were pretty bleak, played in a fairly unpleasant atmosphere. It was clear to me that the club was up a particular creek without a paddle financially and couldn't miss an opertunity to raise some extra cash. As for the U21 teams entering the competition being the thin end of the wedge, that wedge sailed years ago. The formation of the Premier league and the disparity in income distribution saw to that. The English football World no longer affords clubs the chance to move through the leagues without massive injections of cash relative to their league status. If we were ever to get into the championship our turnover would probably have to quadruple to have a chance of establishing ourselves there. So without outside gifted investment that just isn't happening. So I'll carry on supporting my club in whatever competition unless it's, genuinely, morally wrong as it will help to ensure the short term stability of the club. If others don't want to it really doesn't bother me as the games under the so called boycott were quite enjoyable. So if fans don't like the EFL Trophy that's fine but don't imagine it's got anything to do with the demise of the lower leagues, Sky and the Premier league saw to that years ago. Don't worry too much. Lots of people lose their principles as they grow older.
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Post by Henbury Gas on Jun 15, 2019 17:13:09 GMT
Serious point, how much money did we make from this last year ? £100K Plus
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Post by lpgas on Jun 15, 2019 17:30:07 GMT
Well I didn't go to any last year and I wont be going this year, not even for a box seat and a free pasty
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Post by stapletongas on Jun 15, 2019 18:17:00 GMT
Said it before but this protest is not working and we are hurting our club at the same time financially.
Nationally it is uncoordinated and half baked.
The club chairman supporting this at the EFL AGM needed targeting with a protest not clubs who voted against.
Protesting needs a rethink and a smarter approach.
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Post by gasheadbatesy on Jun 15, 2019 19:34:22 GMT
Well I didn't go to any last year and I wont be going this year, not even for a box seat and a free pasty I turned down a free box for a game. Felt really pleased with myself after the conversation. Wasnt a polite thanks but no thanks, but a full reason why he shouldn’t go either. He went and I never let him forget it.
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