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Post by WeAreTheGas on Jul 6, 2019 14:14:41 GMT
I think we’ll add a utility defender (to cover LCB & LB), winger and striker to our current squad, and that’ll probably be our lot.
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Post by Icegas on Jul 6, 2019 14:29:02 GMT
Team wise I'd go,
Anssi Jaakkola
Tony Craig Mark Little Tom Davies Josh Hare
Liam Sercombe Ollie Clarke (C)
Alex Rodman Abumere Ogogo
Tom Nicholls Clarke-Harris
That's virtually the same forward line as last season which failed to score away from home unless JCH popped up with a worldy, somehow we've got to get in a decent LB, unless Bennett gets a second chance, and a new No 10, assuming JCH will be fit. We probably now need another LB as rumours about THD seem, regretfully, true. If that midfield and foward line remains the same then we will have a worse or at ""very best"" a no better a season than last season.I would grade the signings so far as a very healthy 7/10..Very soild,but our defence wasnt the problem last year it was attack.JCH saved us last season when our offence was awlful in terms of quality. If we dont add two good strikers and 2 wingers,plus even a creative CM then we are going to struggle.If our midfield and attack starts the same as it ended last season it will be shocking and a pure disgrace and we will deserve to go down come May 2020.
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Post by WeAreTheGas on Jul 6, 2019 15:55:05 GMT
That's virtually the same forward line as last season which failed to score away from home unless JCH popped up with a worldy, somehow we've got to get in a decent LB, unless Bennett gets a second chance, and a new No 10, assuming JCH will be fit. We probably now need another LB as rumours about THD seem, regretfully, true. If that midfield and foward line remains the same then we will have a worse or at ""very best"" a no better a season than last season.I would grade the signings so far as a very healthy 7/10..Very soild,but our defence wasnt the problem last year it was attack.JCH saved us last season when our offence was awlful in terms of quality. If we dont add two good strikers and 2 wingers,plus even a creative CM then we are going to struggle.If our midfield and attack starts the same as it ended last season it will be shocking and a pure disgrace and we will deserve to go down come May 2020. Whilst I agree that we definitely need to add a few more attacking players to what we’ve currently got, I also think there’s a lot of room for improvement amongst some of the players who were here last season. Sercombe couldn’t have a much worse season than he’s just had, and we know he’s capable of getting 10+ goals from midfield. If Rodman can stay injury free then he’s more than capable of getting 5-10 league goals IMO, and Ollie Clarke could get a similar number with his excellent shooting from distance. Reilly’s now had a season to adjust to League One & is the sort of striker who could really benefit from playing in a more attacking side with better service from out wide. Bennett looks like he’s going to be given a fresh start under GC and is a talented player on his day. Etc. 100% we still need AT LEAST one new striker and winger, but I think we’re likely to get more out of 3/4 of last season’s attacking players too.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 6, 2019 16:08:22 GMT
Allegedly we are close to two more deals getting done ... whether that’s next week I don’t know .
We certainly need more attacking Options than we have at the moment.
When you say its 4 weeks to the start of the season I admit to getting nervous about what still needs to be done. That said 10 days , two signings and the picture may look very different.
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Post by lpgas on Jul 6, 2019 16:18:41 GMT
That's virtually the same forward line as last season which failed to score away from home unless JCH popped up with a worldy, somehow we've got to get in a decent LB, unless Bennett gets a second chance, and a new No 10, assuming JCH will be fit. We probably now need another LB as rumours about THD seem, regretfully, true. If that midfield and foward line remains the same then we will have a worse or at ""very best"" a no better a season than last season.I would grade the signings so far as a very healthy 7/10..Very soild,but our defence wasnt the problem last year it was attack.JCH saved us last season when our offence was awlful in terms of quality. If we dont add two good strikers and 2 wingers,plus even a creative CM then we are going to struggle.If our midfield and attack starts the same as it ended last season it will be shocking and a pure disgrace and we will deserve to go down come May 2020. Cogs did say we couldn't do everything in one season
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Post by warehamgas on Jul 6, 2019 16:27:38 GMT
www.gaschat.co.uk/thread/14444/squad-2019-2020-updated-02Goalkeepers - Alexis Andre Jordi van Stappershoef Anssi Jaakkola Defenders - Tareiq Holmes-Dennis Tony Craig Rollin Menayese Michael Kelly Alfie Kilgour Mark Little Tom Davies Josh Hare Midfielders - Ed Upson Liam Sercombe Ollie Clarke Kyle Bennett Abumere Ogogo Sam Matthews Bernard Mensah Alex Rodman Luke Russe Strikers - Tom Nicholls Jonson Clarke-Harris Gavin Reilly Deon Moore Defenders look a little short of experience. Perhaps buts it’s the lack of striking power and creativity which is the bigger worry imo. Defensively we'll be ok but scoring and midfield creativity, a bit more work needed I think. UTG!
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Post by warehamgas on Jul 6, 2019 16:29:03 GMT
If that midfield and foward line remains the same then we will have a worse or at ""very best"" a no better a season than last season.I would grade the signings so far as a very healthy 7/10..Very soild,but our defence wasnt the problem last year it was attack.JCH saved us last season when our offence was awlful in terms of quality. If we dont add two good strikers and 2 wingers,plus even a creative CM then we are going to struggle.If our midfield and attack starts the same as it ended last season it will be shocking and a pure disgrace and we will deserve to go down come May 2020. Whilst I agree that we definitely need to add a few more attacking players to what we’ve currently got, I also think there’s a lot of room for improvement amongst some of the players who were here last season. Sercombe couldn’t have a much worse season than he’s just had, and we know he’s capable of getting 10+ goals from midfield. If Rodman can stay injury free then he’s more than capable of getting 5-10 league goals IMO, and Ollie Clarke could get a similar number with his excellent shooting from distance. Reilly’s now had a season to adjust to League One & is the sort of striker who could really benefit from playing in a more attacking side with better service from out wide. Bennett looks like he’s going to be given a fresh start under GC and is a talented player on his day. Etc. 100% we still need AT LEAST one new striker and winger, but I think we’re likely to get more out of 3/4 of last season’s attacking players too. I hope you’re right. If you are a good season is in store. UTG!
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Post by Deleted on Jul 6, 2019 16:30:41 GMT
If that midfield and foward line remains the same then we will have a worse or at ""very best"" a no better a season than last season.I would grade the signings so far as a very healthy 7/10..Very soild,but our defence wasnt the problem last year it was attack.JCH saved us last season when our offence was awlful in terms of quality. If we dont add two good strikers and 2 wingers,plus even a creative CM then we are going to struggle.If our midfield and attack starts the same as it ended last season it will be shocking and a pure disgrace and we will deserve to go down come May 2020. Whilst I agree that we definitely need to add a few more attacking players to what we’ve currently got, I also think there’s a lot of room for improvement amongst some of the players who were here last season. Sercombe couldn’t have a much worse season than he’s just had, and we know he’s capable of getting 10+ goals from midfield. If Rodman can stay injury free then he’s more than capable of getting 5-10 league goals IMO, and Ollie Clarke could get a similar number with his excellent shooting from distance. Reilly’s now had a season to adjust to League One & is the sort of striker who could really benefit from playing in a more attacking side with better service from out wide. Bennett looks like he’s going to be given a fresh start under GC and is a talented player on his day. Etc. 100% we still need AT LEAST one new striker and winger, but I think we’re likely to get more out of 3/4 of last season’s attacking players too. Whilst I am pessimistic over our chances this season, I agree with much of this. However, if we don't bring in a central midfielder with the ability to dictate play (think Lines 2015-18), the potential of Bennett, Sercombe, Reilly and Rodman to improve just won't happen, because there will be no-one to pick them out in good areas consistently enough. I think that new player is even more important than a striker at this stage (and we need one of those too!).
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Post by WeAreTheGas on Jul 6, 2019 16:52:34 GMT
Whilst I agree that we definitely need to add a few more attacking players to what we’ve currently got, I also think there’s a lot of room for improvement amongst some of the players who were here last season. Sercombe couldn’t have a much worse season than he’s just had, and we know he’s capable of getting 10+ goals from midfield. If Rodman can stay injury free then he’s more than capable of getting 5-10 league goals IMO, and Ollie Clarke could get a similar number with his excellent shooting from distance. Reilly’s now had a season to adjust to League One & is the sort of striker who could really benefit from playing in a more attacking side with better service from out wide. Bennett looks like he’s going to be given a fresh start under GC and is a talented player on his day. Etc. 100% we still need AT LEAST one new striker and winger, but I think we’re likely to get more out of 3/4 of last season’s attacking players too. Whilst I am pessimistic over our chances this season, I agree with much of this. However, if we don't bring in a central midfielder with the ability to dictate play (think Lines 2015-18), the potential of Bennett, Sercombe, Reilly and Rodman to improve just won't happen, because there will be no-one to pick them out in good areas consistently enough. I think that new player is even more important than a striker at this stage (and we need one of those too!). Yeah, can’t disagree with that. I’d love to see a creative CM signed this window. However, I reckon GC will follow the Liverpool model of having battlers in midfield (e.g. our versions of Henderson, Milner, Fabinho, Wijnaldum etc.) and rely on our wide players & fullbacks to service the strikers. Perhaps we’ll see Nichols and/or Bennett played more centrally (as a #10) at times when GC feels we need more creativity in that area?
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Post by pirate on Jul 6, 2019 18:08:24 GMT
Still need another wide option and creative CM and a striker.
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Post by Topper Gas on Jul 6, 2019 18:27:07 GMT
Whilst I am pessimistic over our chances this season, I agree with much of this. However, if we don't bring in a central midfielder with the ability to dictate play (think Lines 2015-18), the potential of Bennett, Sercombe, Reilly and Rodman to improve just won't happen, because there will be no-one to pick them out in good areas consistently enough. I think that new player is even more important than a striker at this stage (and we need one of those too!). Yeah, can’t disagree with that. I’d love to see a creative CM signed this window. However, I reckon GC will follow the Liverpool model of having battlers in midfield (e.g. our versions of Henderson, Milner, Fabinho, Wijnaldum etc.) and rely on our wide players & fullbacks to service the strikers. Perhaps we’ll see Nichols and/or Bennett played more centrally (as a #10) at times when GC feels we need more creativity in that area? Making OC Captain really makes him undroppable and the same seems to go for Ogogo, if that is the case there seems no more for a Lines type player in midfield, which probably explains why GC was seemingly happy to release him. If Bennett's no longer in his way personally I'd go all out for a goal scoring number 10. Should THD but out long term or even for good then here's a possible replacement: www.coventrytelegraph.net/sport/football/transfer-news/available-go-mark-robins-tells-16543931
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Post by Hudson1883 on Jul 6, 2019 18:33:20 GMT
For what it’s worth, Alex Rodman looks like a brand new player. I thought this even before he took to the pitch. Long gone are the biceps, chest and stacked shoulders, he now seems to be sporting a more slimmer frame & much like Reilly looked incredibly sharp out in that wide position.
Perhaps it is only the solitary addition needed out wide, than the two we have all been previously crying out for.
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Post by Icegas on Jul 6, 2019 18:42:34 GMT
If that midfield and foward line remains the same then we will have a worse or at ""very best"" a no better a season than last season.I would grade the signings so far as a very healthy 7/10..Very soild,but our defence wasnt the problem last year it was attack.JCH saved us last season when our offence was awlful in terms of quality. If we dont add two good strikers and 2 wingers,plus even a creative CM then we are going to struggle.If our midfield and attack starts the same as it ended last season it will be shocking and a pure disgrace and we will deserve to go down come May 2020. Cogs did say we couldn't do everything in one season See I like Cogs, I really do..DC is like a god in my eyes for what he did for our football club at its most important and most testing time in our history.But GC is a perfect,if very different replacement that Im really happy with thus far.He seems to get us as a club just like DC did. Like I scored earlier, his signings in the GK and Defence department - on top of Ogogo and JHC in Jan are a 7 plus out of 10 so far IMHO.Cogs signing at L1 level thus far are much better that DC's by a large margin I might add.And Im a DC fanboy! But our problems were in attack last season,scoring goals.So unless that is addressed we will have the same problems as last year.As good as JHC is,or could be he is far from proven year after year.Thats starts in August. And if TN is our 2nd striker then we're not going to score from our frontline unless JCH does,which is a concern at any level.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 6, 2019 18:43:21 GMT
Whilst I am pessimistic over our chances this season, I agree with much of this. However, if we don't bring in a central midfielder with the ability to dictate play (think Lines 2015-18), the potential of Bennett, Sercombe, Reilly and Rodman to improve just won't happen, because there will be no-one to pick them out in good areas consistently enough. I think that new player is even more important than a striker at this stage (and we need one of those too!). Yeah, can’t disagree with that. I’d love to see a creative CM signed this window. However, I reckon GC will follow the Liverpool model of having battlers in midfield (e.g. our versions of Henderson, Milner, Fabinho, Wijnaldum etc.) and rely on our wide players & fullbacks to service the strikers. Perhaps we’ll see Nichols and/or Bennett played more centrally (as a #10) at times when GC feels we need more creativity in that area? I think you are spot on with this. Question is, can Little/Hare and THD/Kelly do that job. THD I'm sure can, but has had injury problems. Kelly is a stay at home full back learning his trade. Little has done so before so hopefully can still do that. Hare is untried at this level.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 6, 2019 18:49:20 GMT
Cogs did say we couldn't do everything in one season See I like Cogs, I really do..DC is like a god in my eyes for what he did for our football club at its most important and most testing time in our history.But GC is a perfect,if very different replacement that Im really happy with thus far.He seems to get us as a club just like DC did. Like I scored earlier, his signings in the GK and Defence department - on top of Ogogo and JHC in Jan are a 7 plus out of 10 so far IMHO.Cogs signing at L1 level thus far are much better that DC's by a large margin I might add.And Im a DC fanboy! But our problems were in attack last season,scoring goals.So unless that is addressed we will have the same problems as last year.As good as JHC is,or could be he is far from proven year after year.Thats starts in August. And if TN is our 2nd striker then we're not going to score from our frontline unless JCH does,which is a concern at any level. Yes, although the attacking problems are also in part due to a lack of quality in midfield. Both need addressing. Not sure yet about GC's signings. JCH has obviously been a huge success and Ogogo has been ok too. The others are unknown until they play for a while, but on paper look to be good signings, although I have concerns about the lack of experience in the goalkeeper position. Like DC, GC will make some good signings and some poor ones - what matters now is getting these offensive signings right. I reckon our season depends upon it and agree that unless this is resolved, we will have the same problems as last season.
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Post by Henbury Gas on Jul 6, 2019 18:49:27 GMT
Defenders look a little short of experience. Perhaps buts it’s the lack of striking power and creativity which is the bigger worry imo. Defensively we'll be ok but scoring and midfield creativity, a bit more work needed I think. UTG! with reference to our striking power, Serc,Tom Nichols, Rodders & Reilly can't have another bad season can they
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Post by WeAreTheGas on Jul 6, 2019 18:53:23 GMT
Yeah, can’t disagree with that. I’d love to see a creative CM signed this window. However, I reckon GC will follow the Liverpool model of having battlers in midfield (e.g. our versions of Henderson, Milner, Fabinho, Wijnaldum etc.) and rely on our wide players & fullbacks to service the strikers. Perhaps we’ll see Nichols and/or Bennett played more centrally (as a #10) at times when GC feels we need more creativity in that area? I think you are spot on with this. Question is, can Little/Hare and THD/Kelly do that job. THD I'm sure can, but has had injury problems. Kelly is a stay at home full back learning his trade. Little has done so before so hopefully can still do that. Hare is untried at this level. Fully agree. Let’s hope we’ve done our scouting on the fullbacks and they can effectively perform the role we’re going to need them to!
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Post by gaelgas on Jul 6, 2019 19:03:25 GMT
While I agree that we need some more creativity to come in, as quite a few have said, we should expect more of some of the players we already have at the club. If half of the players who underperformed last season start performing I'm actually quietly confident.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 6, 2019 20:18:22 GMT
See I like Cogs, I really do..DC is like a god in my eyes for what he did for our football club at its most important and most testing time in our history.But GC is a perfect,if very different replacement that Im really happy with thus far.He seems to get us as a club just like DC did. Like I scored earlier, his signings in the GK and Defence department - on top of Ogogo and JHC in Jan are a 7 plus out of 10 so far IMHO.Cogs signing at L1 level thus far are much better that DC's by a large margin I might add.And Im a DC fanboy! But our problems were in attack last season,scoring goals.So unless that is addressed we will have the same problems as last year.As good as JHC is,or could be he is far from proven year after year.Thats starts in August. And if TN is our 2nd striker then we're not going to score from our frontline unless JCH does,which is a concern at any level. Yes, although the attacking problems are also in part due to a lack of quality in midfield. Both need addressing. Not sure yet about GC's signings. JCH has obviously been a huge success and Ogogo has been ok too. The others are unknown until they play for a while, but on paper look to be good signings, although I have concerns about the lack of experience in the goalkeeper position. Like DC, GC will make some good signings and some poor ones - what matters now is getting these offensive signings right. I reckon our season depends upon it and agree that unless this is resolved, we will have the same problems as last season. IMO another cause of our attacking problems is dropping deep. I think this is largely due to Craig wanting to drop the line deep to cover up his lack of pace. As much as I like him and will always back him in his individual battles I fear his selection could cause problems for our overall shape. If we had a quick central defensive pairing (or even a lightening quick fullback like Leads to provide an insurance policy) we could play a higher line, compress the game and ensure our midfield are more in touch with the strikers. The strikers were so isolated last year as we had a flat back four and a defensive midfield and then a massive gap to the strikers. The quality of supply and availability of support certainly makes life harder for the strikers. Being more attacking overall and playing higher up the pitch will naturally lead to more end product from our attacking players (I hope !!)
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Post by badengas on Jul 6, 2019 20:31:45 GMT
Please shoot either Nichols or myself. Seems a nice guy but a striker who doesn't score is of no use to me.
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